Why are All you Southerners in Denial? Of Course It Was About Slavery!!

[GulliverSwift]

You people are in denial. Without the issue of slavery, there would have been no Civil War. I know you try to justify their fight against the federal government, and I think it's good to fight against today's left-wing trash bureaucracy that runs the federal government. But back then slavery was the catalyst that started the whole thing.

In each of the states that seceded, their official document that announced secession referred to slavery as the number one issue.

Now, the average Southern soldier probably didn't think about owning slaves since he sure couldn't afford one. But the average Joe Southerner didn't finance the war. The war was financed by the wealthy class in the South, and they're the ones who had a stake in preserving slavery. The wealthy controlled all the newspapers, the town councils, and the economy, and they're the ones who controlled what people heard and thought.

Lincoln wanted to keep slavery out of future states that would expand in the West, which would create more Congressman from free states that would tip the scales on the Hill. So Southern governments threatened that if Lincoln won the election, they would secede. And sure enough, the seceded.

There's nothing wrong with hating the federal government, the nosy SOBs and DOBs in the bureaucracy feel it's their job to run everything. But that doesn't mean that we also have to agree with what the South did, even if it was against the federal government. I don't want two different United States--two weak countries--especially not one with slaves.

Yes, it was about slavery. Southern states stated that as their official reason, and the wealthy class in the South, the ones with money to pay for the guns and cannons, wanted slavery as well.

You and liberals have something in common. Both believe that it was about "states' rights." Liberal blacks think it was about that because they hate to think that so many white people would want to stop slavery. You Southerners think it was about "states' rights" because you hate to think that so many people fighting against the federal government could ever be a bad thing.

Usually, it's not.

[Bikers4Bush]

You just made their case for them. It was about the states right to choose what they wanted and what was best for them.

If it hadn't been slavery it would have been something else.

[tomakaze]

Thanks, but I think I've hit my qouta of B.S. for the day.

[isthisnickcool]

"Why are all you southerners in denial"

Oh, you have talked to all of us? Don't have much to do today, eh?

[Phantom Lord]

How long before a "Southerner" complains about the "Yankees" moving south?

[suekas]

Then why didn't the Emancipation Proclaimation, come at the beginning of the war, instead of 1/2 way through.

[newcats]

Very well put sir....I doubt it will open many of the closed minds on this issue though.
Still a well written and thought out piece.
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[The Green Goblin]

p>

Sounds like someone may have watched Roots a few times too many...

[cactusSharp]

you jackass....that war proved that Blacks were treated well in the south,and NOT WELL in the north....... States rights were the reason and the industrial steel producing north was advantaged against the south,you jackass

[max61]

If it was all about slavery, why did it take two years and hundreds of thousands of lives before Lincoln "freed" the slaves?.

---max

[Ward Smythe]

How long before a "Southerner" complains about the "Yankees" moving south?

Every chance I get...

[putupon]

Virginia did not secede until Lincoln said he was sending troops through the state in order to attack South Carolinia. That was the issue that caused the legislature to vote for secession (by a slim majority).

[billbears]

Southern states stated that as their official reason

Really now? Could you please supply the Causes of Secession for North Carolina and Virginia(had to vote twice to secede). Don't remember seeing those. Actually most of the border states didn't secede until good ol' abe starting trampling the Constitution with his 75,000 'volunteer' force to start invading half the nation. But thanks again for your input, halfwitted as it might be it still points to the cause, the right of the states to determine their destinies as outlined in the Ratifications of Virginia, New York, and New Jersey of the Constitution

[isthisnickcool]

"You jackass"

Hey! Don't give me a bad name!

[dts32041]

As said in 1776, Is that the stench of hypocrisy I smell coming from the north?

[Constitution Day]

I've got too much work, to do, but here's a...
States' Rights BUMP!

Have fun, and DEO VINDICE!

[Shooter 2.5]

If you want someone's opinion, you read what they said at the time. Read each state's "Declaration of Secession" and see that the states that issued their Declaration mentioned slavery as the most important reason they left. Our opinions don't count, their's does.

[borntodiefree]

Maybe you should go back and read some of Lincoln writings before you spew out this kind of nonsense. Slavery was a minor issue. Lincoln in his own writings refused to address the issue of slavery until 4 years into the war. He did not want to outlaw slavery.

The president didn't have the power to free the slaves anyway. The only one's that could would be the Supreme Court or the slaves themselves. If you read the papers of the south, you would see that slavery was on the way out anyway (not by all, but by many).

The civil war was about taxes and states rights, thats it. Slavery was a nice little escape goat for the history books, and was just the 19th century democrat menuvure to have a whole bunch more folks to vote for you. What better way to have a new giant support base than to free a bunch of slaves.

Now I believe that slavery (not indentured servitude) is evil (except in some cases paying the penalty of a crime or in even rare, rare cases of significant torts), but don't confuse the issue.

[billbears]

Still a well written and thought out piece

Well written? Do you people even read the newspapers up there and know their history or are they just used to line your birdcages? It doesn't provide one piece of evidence, it ignores statements even made by abe himself (not wanting to be painted with an 'abolitionist brush', late 1861), and ignores the fact that until the middle of the war abolitionist groups numbered less than 1% of the voting public up north. Surely you're not going to suggest abe started a war to pander to less than 1% of the voting public?

[newcats]

Treated well....if you compare their treatment to how farm animals were treated, guess you could say they lived in luxury.
Give me a break...
Guess because they were slaves, they were immune to the rights of the BofRs?
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