[oswegodeee]

This is very interesting information..

[Maelstrom]

Very nice.

[Map Kernow]

The Arabs, who had no name of their own for this region, adopted the Greco-Roman name Palastina, that they pronounced "Falastin".

There is no "p" sound in Arabic---hence foreign language words imported into Arabic have to substitute either "b" (as in "Boutros" for Greek "Petros" or "Peter"), or "f" as in "Falastin" for Palestine.

A very good article indeed---full of useful and incontestable historical facts about the artificial land of "Palestine" and its make-believe people, the "Palestinians."

[MinuteGal]

Great post, oswegodee. A MUST read for every freeper. This article really added to my understanding of the area's background.

Confucias Leni say, "People who don't read history, BECOME history!"

Leni

[LurkerNoMore!]

Thank you for this post.

[fire and forget]

No kidding! Fascinating. Thanks for the post. It clarifies much of what makes the Palestinian question so difficult for Western nations to grapple with.

[Pharmboy]

Nicely done, newbie...and welcome. I love history.

Great post--thank you.

[MissAmericanPie]

What land that was owned by Arabs was purchased by Jews at inflated prices, it is their land, it always has been their land and always will be. The Jews are not occupiers and never have been, the international community has no business sticking it's nose into Jewish affairs.

No matter what insanity might prevail to allow these vagabonds that call themselves Palestinians to establish a terrorist state, it will never be enough, and has never been their aim. Their aim is destruction of Israel, and the bannishment of the Jewish population. The international community ruined South Africa, by muddling in the affairs of the founders of that civilization that became overrun with migrants living off the need of the populace for cheap labor, much like is happening in the SW United States at the present time and is happening in Israel and has happened in the Balkins.

I destest the attitude that the capable must make way for the third world to take over their honest hard work and bring it back to a wasteland as seen in Afghanistan, when these people are so much easier to kill than to deal with.

[muawiyah]

As interesting as it might be, it is fair to appreciate that Egypt had no native born ethnic Egyptian ruler for aobut 2.5 millenia.

Then, too, virtually 100% of all the Arab and Jewish occupied areas in the Middle East were part of the various and successive Turkish empires for about 90% of a millenium.

It would be ridiculous to say that the Egyptians, the Arabs and the Jews didn't really exist because of these events.

Unfortunately, the article posted here comes to that conclusion with respect to the Palestinians.

It's time to give it up folks. Living human beings do not cease to be living human beings because someone else is able to misarrange words on a piece of paper.

[traditionalist]

All this article shows is that the Palestinians did not develop a sense of national identity until recently and that it shares a language with other nations. Can someone explain to me why these facts are significant? The implication seems to be that Palesetine is less than a nation because of these facts, but I do not see how this conclusion follows.

Italian nationalism did not develop until the 19th century, and there was no independent political entity called Italy until then, yet Italy, even at its birth, was no less a nation than France, which had had its sense of national identity since the middle ages. There is no language called "Austrian," yet Austria is very much a distinct nation from Germany.

But I do grant the author of this article one thing: he is a good sophist.

[timestax]

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[MinuteGal]

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[Brett66]

Palestinians are Arabs, indistinguishable from Jordanians (another recent invention), Syrians, Lebanese, Iraqis, etc.

Sounds like "Palistine" is a convenient funneling area for terrorist insurgents.

[Syncro]

Thanks for this post oswegodeee, EVERYONE that wants to know the truth about the situation in Israel needs to read this and study it closely.

Jeff, this is the information I was trying to explain to that lady at dinner last friday...she said she was going to register.

Maybe you can give her the url for this thread next week if you and Mama_Bear go to Fresno. She was very interested in knowing this info, even called her husband from the dinner table if I remember correctly...

Thanks

[OldDominion]

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[Rule of Law]

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[CyberCowboy777]

Bump!

Thanks

[Coleus]

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