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Bombers Gloating in Gaza as They See Goal Within Reach: No More Israel
New York Times ^ | April 3, 2002 | JOEL BRINKLEY

Posted on 04/03/2002 10:43:16 PM PST by Prodigal Son

GAZA, April 3 — The leaders of Hamas, the militant Islamic movement responsible for the most deadly suicide attacks in Israel in the last week, are pleased and satisfied just now.

"Our spirit is high, our mood is good," said Ismail Abu Shanab, one of the organization's leaders.

If Israel attacks Gaza, as it has areas of the West Bank, he and the other leaders would likely be principal targets. For now, they live and operate here openly.

By their estimation, the organization's two recent attacks — the one at a Seder on Passover night in a Netanya hotel that killed 25 people, and the other in a Haifa cafe that killed 15 — were the most successful they have ever made. That is true partly, Mr. Shanab said, because Hamas is now using weapons-grade explosives instead of home made bombs manufactured using fertilizer, a fact the Israelis have confirmed.

"Forty were killed and 200 injured — in just two operations," another of the leaders, Mahmoud al-Zahar, said with a smile.

What's more, Hamas believes that the Palestinian Authority has given up on negotiating with Israel, negotiations that Hamas virulently opposed. That has led to a budding alliance between Hamas and Fatah, the organization headed by Yasir Arafat, the Palestinian leader, despite years of bitter and sometimes violent feuding.

Mr. Arafat "is Palestinian and I am Palestinian," said Sheik Ahmed Yassin, the spiritual leader of Hamas. "We have the same problem now. Israel is our enemy."

Sammy Abu Samhadanah, a Fatah commander here, said Hamas was carrying out attacks "because they did not want a peace agreement.

"But now," he added, "we have a common enemy."

Hamas, the second most popular Palestinian movement, behind Fatah, is directed by a "steering committee," as Dr. Zahar put it, with five principal members. Interviews with four of them — a cleric, an engineer and two medical doctors — showed a leadership unyielding, determined and increasingly confident of achieving their goal, the eradication of Israel as a Jewish state.

They are almost welcoming of the Israeli attacks in the West Bank because they believe that the military campaign will generate more recruits for Hamas. Already, the leaders say, they have more than enough recruits for suicide attacks.

The political leaders, as they call themselves, are obviously prosperous and live in large, comfortable homes here in Gaza City with big families. The exception is Sheik Yassin, who uses a wheelchair and lives in a compound in the slums of the city with guards, assistants and office workers. Dr. Zahar, a surgeon, has a table tennis set in his vast living room, for his seven children. All of them offer their opinions in calm, cheerful tones suggesting that they view their positions as unremarkable.

The leaders insist that they are not involved in directing specific attacks. But they say they do decide when their followers should attack and when they should back off. Last fall, just after Sept. 11, the steering committee decided that "our resistance in Israel might be confused with what was happened in the U.S.," said Mr. Abu Shanab, the engineer. So the suicide bombing and other attacks were stopped.

"It lasted three weeks," said Abdel Aziz Rantisi, the fourth leader. But then after a particularly bloody day in Gaza during which Israelis killed several Palestinians, Dr. Rantisi added, the attacks resumed. On Oct. 3, gunmen burst into an Israeli settlement in Gaza, Alei Sinai, where they shot and killed a young couple and wounded 15 others. Hamas took responsibility.

Dr. Rantisi, who appears in public more often than any of the others, said that, to generate attacks, he makes public statements that are heard by his followers, as he did recently when he said in a television interview: "The gates of resistance are open totally." Those statements are heard by Hamas's military wing, he says, "and they listen because we are the political leaders."

Some analysts here suggest that the leaders' roles are actually more direct. During the 45-minute interview in Sheik Yassin's compound, for example, aides twice brought him urgent news about developments in Ramallah, and he issued clear, direct orders.

The goals of Hamas are straightforward. As Sheik Yassin put it, "our equation does not focus on a cease-fire; our equation focuses on an end to the occupation." By that he means an end to the Jewish occupation of historical Palestine.

Hamas wants Israeli withdrawal from all of the West Bank and Gaza, the dismantling of all Israeli settlements and full right of return for the four million Palestinians who live in other states. After that, the Jews could remain, living "in an Islamic state with Islamic law," Dr. Zahar said. "From our ideological point of view, it is not allowed to recognize that Israel controls one square meter of historic Palestine."

Mr. Shenab insisted that he was not joking when he said, "There are a lot of open areas in the United States that could absorb the Jews."

The Hamas leaders are clearly enamored of the suicide attacks carried out by their followers. "It is the most effective strategy for us," said Dr. Rantisi. "For us it is the same as their F-16," the attack fighters used by the Israeli military.

For them, the crowning achievement so far was the attack on Passover eve.

"That was a great success," said Mr. Shenab. "We don't have an army, but we showed that one person can do more than an army — and in the middle of a big alert by the Israelis." That night, the Israeli police and the military were on full alert to stop suicide bombers. "That showed that if we suffer, our enemy suffers more," he added.

Sheik Yassin said: "The Palestinian people are not the same as they were in 1967," when Israel captured the West Bank and Gaza, "or during the first intifada," from 1987 to 1991. "At that time nobody knew how to make explosives.

"But now," he added, "everybody knows, and Israel will never be stable again."

On the night of the Passover attack, Dr. Zahar released a statement saying it was intended in part to shut down the cease-fire negotiations then under way, directed by Gen. Anthony C. Zinni, the American special envoy.

In the interview today, Dr. Zahar explained, "the Zinni mission was bad for us" because, under the proposed terms of the cease-fire, groups like Hamas would be disarmed and their leaders arrested.

"Besides," Dr. Rantisi said, "we in Hamas believe peace talks will do no good. We do not believe we can live with the enemy."

The budding alliance with Mr. Arafat's Fatah faction does not mean that Hamas and Fatah will carry out attacks together, just that they will not interfere with each other. In the past, Fatah security officials have occasionally arrested Hamas members at the behest of the Israeli government; Dr. Zahar points to bullet holes in his living room ceiling that were left following one assault by Fatah forces.

"But now," said Mr. Abu Samhadanah, the Fatah commander, "we are not going to arrest them."

Mr. Shanab said: "We disagree with Fatah on the legitimate right of return of our refugees and many other things.

"But for now, we are going to postpone those problems."


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Israel; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: hamas; israel; terrorism
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To: Derechista
Islam is the greatest danger to the world...PERIOD.

I don't think there can be any doubt about that.

21 posted on 04/03/2002 11:18:45 PM PST by The Great Satan
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To: The Great Satan
Yup !

The big picture is always invisible to some?

22 posted on 04/03/2002 11:21:58 PM PST by america-rules
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To: The Great Satan
Why would they be in the pocket of big oil if they no longer hold "OIL" stock?
23 posted on 04/03/2002 11:23:08 PM PST by america-rules
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To: Prodigal Son
"From our ideological point of view, it is not allowed to recognize that Israel controls one square meter of historic Palestine."

How can our leaders think that negotiations with Arafat or ANY Palestinian leader will produce anything of lasting signifance for the region when there are still these terrorist outfits fully capable of continuing their attacks, who will not stop until Israel is completely removed from the region? What is Bush thinking? What is Powell thinking? Why waste our time? Inform Arafat to get those terrorists under control, else Sharon will CONTINUE to do the job for him until all terrorists are completely eradicated.

24 posted on 04/03/2002 11:24:53 PM PST by Proud2BAmerican
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To: Proud2BAmerican
What is Powell thinking?

Remember, Powell said we could be open to Taliban participation in the Afghanistan regime. Do you think he or Bush ever really believed that? It's just gamesmanship.

25 posted on 04/03/2002 11:27:01 PM PST by The Great Satan
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To: freedom9
I'm not seeing that graphic appear. I don't think geocities lets you do that. But here is the address for anyone interested (it's toast) http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Forest/5898/gifs/toast.gif
26 posted on 04/03/2002 11:27:54 PM PST by Prodigal Son
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To: M. Thatcher
Of course they won't. The truth means NOTHING to them.
27 posted on 04/03/2002 11:34:23 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Prodigal Son
We may see the day to day grind of the demonic ride..and speculate how and when it will end....one thing is for certain..it will!
Soon..maybe not just yet..things will fly off the handle..countries like Lebanon and Syria will figure prominently.
The prophetic linkage in Zech chap 9 is clear..this links to Isaiah chap 30.
In the past few days..one can see the fear in the eyes of the Palestinians..they are terrified..and rightly so.
There may be an interem time window..a "False Peace" may be achieved..then things fall apart..and as the Almighty colorfully says in the Hebrew prophecies.."The Smashing begins".
Arabic armies...Arabic cities..destroyed..burning on the horizon..its coming folks..in your lifetime..it coming!
28 posted on 04/03/2002 11:34:46 PM PST by Light Speed
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To: Proud2BAmerican
Powell is an utter disaster !
29 posted on 04/03/2002 11:38:51 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Prodigal Son
sorry . . .
But I can see it no prob.
how come?
30 posted on 04/03/2002 11:40:15 PM PST by freedom9
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To: freedom9
how come?

Dunno. Maybe Geocities detects the proper cookies in your computer because (assumedly) that's your website? I just remember hearing that Yahoo quit letting people post images fromt their sites (presumedly because of bandwith issues).

31 posted on 04/03/2002 11:48:31 PM PST by Prodigal Son
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To: Prodigal Son
not my site.
just did a search for toast pic
worked fine in preview so I posted
32 posted on 04/03/2002 11:53:53 PM PST by freedom9
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To: america-rules
Though demonized by extremist Arab dictators and despised by fanatics left and right, Arik (sic) Sharon is the average Palestinian's last best hope in this generation for a good life in an independent state.

Thanks.

33 posted on 04/03/2002 11:55:02 PM PST by Prodigal Son
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To: freedom9
I can't get the picture to come up now when I enter that address. Hmmm. Weird. Oh well.
34 posted on 04/03/2002 11:56:20 PM PST by Prodigal Son
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To: Prodigal Son
He and his whelps would be nothing but sand s$%t-------forever!
35 posted on 04/03/2002 11:56:40 PM PST by RIGHT IN SEATTLE
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To: wafflehouse
new movie title.... "Boxing Palestina?"
36 posted on 04/04/2002 12:22:25 AM PST by Robert_Paulson2
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To: goldstategop
The $64,000 mystery question is why Israel hasn't eliminated the Hamas and Islamic Jihad leadership and infrastructure... yet.

Prior to 9/11, it would have been politically impossible. The US is about the only nation that isn't screaming about the clean up now. The rest of the world is talking sanctions and UN peace-keeping forces...

37 posted on 04/04/2002 12:30:49 AM PST by Lion's Cub
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To: Prodigal Son
Mr. Arafat "is Palestinian and I am Palestinian," said Sheik Ahmed Yassin, the spiritual leader of Hamas.

No. Arafat is Egyptian and your a bloody grease spot waiting to happen.

38 posted on 04/04/2002 12:39:25 AM PST by Ajnin
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To: Prodigal Son
On a few other threads I have mentioned that anong the reasons I have come to abhor these people is their tendency to

1- Yap
2- Whine
3- and Threaten

My apologies- I greatly neglected to include one other loathsome trait

4- empty Braggadocio....

39 posted on 04/04/2002 12:43:18 AM PST by backhoe
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To: wafflehouse
instead of just shooting them, catch and disable them.. give them a short relaxing stay at the hospital.. amputate their arms and legs, and send them back to their families.

Counterproductive, I'm afraid. Do you realize how much explosives could be packed into 4 prosthetic limbs???

I did hear a possibility from a writer in Israel, though. He suggests that the Israelis make it public policy that the remaining family of any suicide bombers will automatically be deported and banned from ever returning again. I think that actually might help deter some of them. What's the point of "fighting for the land" if you know your family will never see it again?

40 posted on 04/04/2002 12:46:39 AM PST by Lion's Cub
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