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Those "Palestinian Refugees"
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Posted on 04/02/2002 11:19:49 AM PST by Sen Jack S. Fogbound

Those "Palestinian Refugees"
Who are they, what is the real story?

Although, in view of the violence of the Palestinians, negotiations with them would seem fruitless, or at least a long way off, one issue that will arise again is that of the "Palestinian refugees." It has been a sticking point in past negotiations and will without question arise again. These "refugees" are the children and mostly grandchildren of those who left Israel during the 1948 War of Independence. Yasser Arafat insists that there can be no peace unless those "refugees" are allowed to "return" to Israel.

What are the facts? 650,000 "refugees" swell to 5 million. You have heard about those "Palestinian refugees," who claim "right of return" to Israel. Of course, virtually none of them ever lived in Israel -- they are the children and mostly grandchildren of those who fled in 1948. The total number of those who fled in 1948 is estimated to have been about 650,000. Now the number who wish to return has swollen to almost five million!

How did this exodus come about? In 1948, on the day of the proclamation of the State of Israel, five Arab armies invaded the new country from all sides. In frightful radio broadcasts, they urged the Arabs living there to leave, so that the invading armies could operate without interference. They could return after the expected quick victory in that "holy war," get their property back -- and that of the Jews. Things turned out differently. The invading armies were defeated. Those who had left became refugees -- people without a country. Those who stayed, and their children, are full-fledged citizens of the State of Israel.

These so-called "Palestinian refugees" have not been allowed to settle in the "indivisible Arab nation." They have been supported in camps since 1948. So far, close to $1.8 billion has been spent on their maintenance. No end is in sight. Who pays for that? You guessed it: Through UNWRA Relief, the United States contributes more than 60% of the total cost.

The Arab countries, among them some of the richest in the world who fritter away their enormous fortunes on undreamed luxuries, are satisfied to leave their Arab brethren in those miserable camps. They have never contributed a penny to their maintenance.

Another side of the "refugee" story. But there is another side to the "refugee" story. Little is heard of the 800,000 Jewish refugees from Arab countries, who fled those countries to settle in the newly formed Jewish State of Israel. Every one of these refugees was immediately accepted, resettled, taken care of, and given full citizenship by the fledgling, impoverished, and embattled Jewish State. There never has been, and there certainly is not now, a Jewish "refugee" camp in Israel or anywhere else.

The Arab "refugees" who fled Israel left little wealth and little history, since most of them had not come to "Palestine" until Jewish settlers opened economic opportunities in what had been a desolate country for centuries. But the Jews of Arab lands have a history going back thousands of years. When forced to flee, they left behind land, wealth, and a long history. They arrived in Israel, quite literally only "with their shirts on their backs." They now make up almost 60% of the vibrant and productive population of Israel. What have the Arabs, the richest people in the world, done with their "refugees" in more than 50 years? They have kept them in misery, on the dole of the world, and have taught their hopeless youth the "skills" of suicide missions and of slaughtering defenseless and unarmed men, women, and children.

If the Arab nations truly decided to make peace with Israel and to put an end to the century-long strife, they could easily accomplish it by accepting the "Palestinian refugees" in their countries and, just as Israel did with Jewish refugees from Arab countries, integrating them into their societies and making useful citizens of them. In fact, acceptance in their countries might also be offered to the Israeli Arabs, who, despite enjoying a higher standard of living, education, and health than Arabs in any of the surrounding countries and despite having the same civil rights as Israeli Jews, are not happy to live in a Jewish state.

Population transfers are common, especially in the wake of wars. They have been practiced throughout history. In 1923, Greece and Turkey agreed to the resettlement of 2 million Greeks and 800,000 Turks; in 1945, the resettlement of 3 million Germans from Poland and Czechoslovakia was arranged. Following the collapse of its North African Empire, France accepted close to 1.5 million people. More than 12 million(!) Muslims and Hindus were exchanged between India and Pakistan. Israel has recognized this historical necessity. The "Arab Nation," with its enormous wealth and vast under-populated lands, has stubbornly refused to face facts. It is clear that the "Palestinian refugee problem" is a red herring, kept alive by the Arab nations for their political purposes, and with cynical disregard for the great number of impoverished people who live in these camps. It is being kept alive and is being used as a "non-negotiable" bargaining chip, for the purpose of destroying the State of Israel -- a feat that the Arabs have attempted several times by military means, but which has always ended in disastrous failure. Apart from the unsolvable social problems it would create, the introduction of, say, even one-half of the 5 million who claim to be "refugees" would, with one stroke, dramatically alter the demographic makeup of the country and would inevitably destroy the Jewish State. That is of course the whole idea behind the demand for the "return of the refugees". If the Arab nations were willing to solve the "refugee problem," the legitimacy of Israel could no longer be questioned. But that is not acceptable to the Arabs. They are firmly committed not to allow Israel or any "non-believers" to be in control of any part of the Middle East. It is that, and that alone, which is the real cause of the "Palestinian refugee problem."


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Interesting viewpoint here! The bold emphasis are mine.
1 posted on 04/02/2002 11:19:49 AM PST by Sen Jack S. Fogbound
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To: Sen Jack S. Fogbound
The viewpoint from the truth is always interesting.
2 posted on 04/02/2002 11:24:01 AM PST by PeoplesRepublicOfWashington
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To: Sen Jack S. Fogbound
One thing the author has failed to mention is that in one sense Israel is trying to have it both ways -- it doesn't want these "so-called refugees" to settle in Israel, but it wants them to cross the border from the West Bank and Gaza on a daily basis to satisfy the country's need for labor.

Most of these suicide bombers aren't invading Israel to carry out their attacks -- they're entering Israel with the approval of the Israeli government.

3 posted on 04/02/2002 11:27:40 AM PST by Alberta's Child
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To: Sen Jack S. Fogbound
Also very true
4 posted on 04/02/2002 11:30:11 AM PST by fuente
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To: PeoplesRepublicOfWashington
Indeed. Many informative background papers may be found on the FLAME website.

FLAME: Facts and Logic About the Middle East

5 posted on 04/02/2002 11:33:42 AM PST by Hibernius Druid
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To: Alberta's Child
Most of these suicide bombers aren't invading Israel to carry out their attacks -- they're entering Israel with the approval of the Israeli government.

Woah, never thought i'd see somebody say it here. One of the two big secrets - the settlements being the other one. Here's your land, unless we want it.
6 posted on 04/02/2002 11:37:38 AM PST by Egregious Philbin
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To: Alberta's Child
They're Arab peasants. Just like the Mexicans to our south, they cross into Israel to do the work Israeli's won't. But unlike Arab immigrant workers, Mexican migrants don't blow us up. Their grateful for the work they get in the greatest nation on god's green earth.
7 posted on 04/02/2002 11:38:13 AM PST by Weimdog
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To: Alberta's Child
it wants them to cross the border from the West Bank and Gaza on a daily basis to satisfy the country's need for labor.

Israel has no need for cheap unskilled labor from the Palestinians. There are already more than enough Thais and Romanians, and, well gosh, ISRAELIS to do that kind of work. It's the Palestinians who want it both ways--they want to continue blowing up Israeli civilians wherever, and they want unimpeded access to Israeli jobs, medical care, etc.

8 posted on 04/02/2002 11:42:26 AM PST by Alouette
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To: Sen Jack S. Fogbound
More than 12 million(!) Muslims and Hindus were exchanged between India and Pakistan.

In an exchange which left hundreds of thousand of others dead at the hands of Muslim and Hindu mobs. Is that FLAME's idea of a successful transfer?

9 posted on 04/02/2002 11:45:51 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Weimdog
Interesting comments, and comments worth remembering whenever the subject of amnesty for illegal immigration is raised. The U.S. is in the same position as Israel in that we must import workers to do much of the work "that we don't do," and I am convinced that much of the encouragement for allowing this illegal immigration is from reflective people who realize that 100,000 immigrants from Mexico are far less of a threat to the U.S. than 100 immigrants from the Middle East.
10 posted on 04/02/2002 11:46:49 AM PST by Alberta's Child
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To: Alouette
Israel has no need for cheap unskilled labor from the Palestinians.

Let me know when you've had your reality check. Israel has one of the lowest birthrates in the world, and as a result they must import not only unskilled laborers but many skilled workers, too.

Remember, the Palestinian who blew himself up in the hotel last weekend and killed all those people at the Passover celebration was a former employee of the hotel. Companies in Israel would never hire Palestinian workers unless they really needed them.

And think of all those stories you hear about terrorists attacking soldiers at "Israeli checkpoints." The soldiers aren't there to keep Palestinians out of Israel -- they're there to make sure the Palestinians entering Israel have valid working papers.

11 posted on 04/02/2002 11:51:44 AM PST by Alberta's Child
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To: Egregious Philbin
Call me "the Voice of Reason" here on FreeRepublic. I try to be as objective as possible when commenting on issues like this.

: )

12 posted on 04/02/2002 11:52:43 AM PST by Alberta's Child
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To: Alberta's Child
Let me know when you've had your reality check. Israel has one of the lowest birthrates in the world, and as a result they must import not only unskilled laborers but many skilled workers, too.

Reality check here: The Israelis do not need to import any labor of any kind, skilled or unskilled, from the Palestinians. There are Thais and Romanians clamoring for those jobs. For skilled labor, there are plenty of Israelis, Americans and Russians who want those jobs.

There is no need for Israel to use Palestinian workers.

15 posted on 04/02/2002 12:16:45 PM PST by Alouette
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To: Alberta's Child
Most of these suicide bombers aren't invading Israel to carry out their attacks -- they're entering Israel with the approval of the Israeli government.

The sad thing is that you appear to actually be serious and seem also to be trying to appear so intellectual and factual (just like a liberal) when, in fact, you're full of flatus (again, just like a liberal).

Definition: A suicide bomber is a misguided fool with THE mission of blowing up, hoping fervently to take non-islamics along with them into death.

Amazing grasp of the obvious: There is no way you can actually believe your assertion that suicide bombers are actually harmless invitees (workers, or whatever you're trying to claim) invited into Israel for whatever unspecified purpose you seem to imagine, unless, of course, you suffer from brain damage.

How d*mned dumb is THAT! OBVIOUSLY these idiots entered Israel with the express purpose of being suicide bombers. How could you possibly espouse ANY OTHER logic and have a brain? I hope there are lots of islamics you consider friends who, when the time comes, will make YOU their first target because you are, apparently, quite the sucker!

Personally, I'm glad you're there! When the islamics in this country start their jihad against non-islamics in the USA, they'll go after you first and this will give me advanced warning! ROTFLOL!

16 posted on 04/02/2002 12:16:54 PM PST by mil-vet
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To: Right Wing Prof
While every group has its bad apples, it's worth noting that Latin Americans by and large are not subject to the same ideological strife that Middle Easterners are. I would say it is primarily the result of the role of Christianity in their lives.
17 posted on 04/02/2002 12:21:15 PM PST by Alberta's Child
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To: Alouette
There is no need for Israel to use Palestinian workers.

I apologize for my ignorance, but this comment calls for a very obvious response:

THEN WHY THE HELL DO THEY USE THEM?????

18 posted on 04/02/2002 12:24:55 PM PST by Alberta's Child
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To: Alberta's Child
THEN WHY THE HELL DO THEY USE THEM?????

I wonder the same thing.

19 posted on 04/02/2002 12:30:21 PM PST by Alouette
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To: Alberta's Child
I guess I'm not less ignorant than you, but maybe the Palestinian sought their jobs?

What do you suppose we'd be discussing if the Israelis hadn't hired them?

20 posted on 04/02/2002 12:39:30 PM PST by tsomer
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