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**CAPTION TIME** Photo of Lindh at Camp Rhino in Kandahar, Afghanistan
Yahoo News Photos ^ | 4-1-02

Posted on 04/01/2002 1:38:53 PM PST by Oldeconomybuyer

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U.S. Taliban fighter John Walker Lindh returned to federal court on April 1, 2002 as his lawyers battled with government prosecutors over what kind of evidence can be used in his conspiracy trial. This picture, released by Lindh's lawyers on April 1, 2002 as part of the evidence, was taken by the US government when Lindh was at Camp Rhino in Kandahar, Afghanistan, in December 2001. Photo by Reuters (Handout)


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To: reprobate_mind
Um, most of the 'Constitution-haters' here have actually read it and condsider it American scripture and therefore understand that its protections of our rights which spring from nature end at our borders.
81 posted on 04/01/2002 2:53:50 PM PST by LisaFab
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To: VA Advogado
I guess we have never seen pictures of prisoners in the US when they are shackled, leg-ironed or handcuffed. If you don't want to be a prisoner how about obeying the laws...seems reasonable to me.
82 posted on 04/01/2002 2:54:11 PM PST by Mfkmmof4
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To: VA Advogado
His homo father is/was just a mid level manager at PG&E and still is paying alimony and support to his former wife.

He does not have the money to pay for the high ticket lawyer team defending his son!

83 posted on 04/01/2002 2:55:08 PM PST by Grampa Dave
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To: reprobate_mind
So, if you hate the constitution, work to change it!

Don't know who you are, but I'll give you some advice, don't come to a gun fight with a knife.

We LIKE the Constitution here and can quote it chapter and verse.

One of the things we LIKE about it is it says when you take up arms against this country YOU DON'T HAVE the rights that use to be yours.

84 posted on 04/01/2002 2:56:50 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Mfkmmof4
I guess we have never seen pictures of prisoners in the US when they are shackled, leg-ironed or handcuffed. If you don't want to be a prisoner how about obeying the laws...seems reasonable to me.

I've seen prisoners in maximum security here in the US. They are shackled worse than that just to be walked to the shower.

85 posted on 04/01/2002 2:57:47 PM PST by VA Advogado
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To: reprobate_mind
Unfortunately, all the childish name-calling in the world won't alter the fact that we do, indeed, have a constitution and a bill of rights.

You have a point when you indicate that name-calling is seldom persuasive or productive. Let me try to respond to you without it.

This mope's lawyers want us to see the picture and imagine their client has been abused or tortured. That seems to be what you see.

But I'm not so inclined to give the benefit of the doubt to criminal defense lawyers (and by implication say that U. S. service members are basically sadists) -- because that's not my experience with how the world usually is. I speak from my military experience, among other things.

There are plenty of legitimate reasons why a battlefield captive would be restrained (in this country police and prison guards do it all the time -- especially when transporting prisoners), and reasons why he might be photographed. It doesn't violate the constitution, and doesn't bother me either.

One pictur really doesn't tell us that much, since there are many possible explanations for what it shows. Without knowing more, it mostly just shows us what the viewer thinks. You seem to see the worst in the U. S. military, and that's not what I see, nor is it what many other Freepers see. I think that's why you got a strong reaction.

87 posted on 04/01/2002 2:59:48 PM PST by 68skylark
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To: Howlin
I get so bored with these new registers that come here to teach us all about the FACTS, you know........geez.

We've seen this act before. Some liberal intellectual snot registers in order to debate the "conservative cretins." The condescending tone grows old after about two posts, and the arguments aren't any more sophisticated than MurryMom's. They are merely phrased differently.

88 posted on 04/01/2002 3:00:03 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Howlin
Sure. It is on tape that an America citizen expressed an opinion. What about the other statements he made to the FBI in which he directly contrasted those comments by saying that he had grown disillussioned with his movement after the horror of 9/11 and that he yearned to be free of what he now saw as a murderous clique?

Oh, but I see, it isn't the FBI interview that they suppressed that matters - only the brief soundbite pumped out by CNN.

89 posted on 04/01/2002 3:00:47 PM PST by Freetus
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To: Shooter 2.5
They only found out about it during the interregation

Nope. They never found out about it before the uprising. He was down in the basement with the other terrorists when they flooded him out and when they put him on a truck to transport him from that siutation, then HE told a Newsweek reporter that he was an American.

90 posted on 04/01/2002 3:00:55 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Grampa Dave
His homo father is/was just a mid level manager at PG&E and still is paying alimony and support to his former wife.

I think the wife is chipping in too.

LINK

91 posted on 04/01/2002 3:02:57 PM PST by VA Advogado
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To: reprobate_mind
This might have been the first step in checking out these terrorists and separating them.

Was this before there were jails made or to be had?

I still have no mercy on terrorists.

92 posted on 04/01/2002 3:03:02 PM PST by A CA Guy
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To: Mfkmmof4
If you don't want to be a prisoner how about obeying the laws...seems reasonable to me.

What are you doing, trying to damage these people's self-esteem? /sarcasm

93 posted on 04/01/2002 3:03:19 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Howlin
We LIKE the Constitution here and can quote it chapter and verse.

Shall we sic Demidog and his handler, Tpaine on him?

95 posted on 04/01/2002 3:04:17 PM PST by VA Advogado
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To: reprobate_mind
only "illegitimate combatants."

Pay attention now. The lovely group he joined up with was on the U.S. list of terrorist organizations.

He took up arms against his country. It says right on your passport, if you join forces against this country, you have to turn in your flag.

96 posted on 04/01/2002 3:05:51 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Freetus
You really ARE clueless, aren't you?

From Newsweek:

Walker, who suffered a gunshot wound, starvation and near-drowning when the basement of the fortress was flooded, was one of about 80 Taliban supporters to survive a vicious, weeklong battle that left a CIA agent and hundreds of foreign fighters dead. Shortly after his capture last weekend, Walker identified himself as an American citizen and told a NEWSWEEK reporter that he had come to Afghanistan to help the Taliban build a “pure Islamic state.” In a subsequent interview with CNN from his hospital bed, Walker described himself as a “jihadi”, a fighter of holy wars, and said that he had received combat training at a camp in Afghanistan where Osama bin Laden appeared several times. Before joining the war in Afghanistan, Walker said he had fought alongside Pakistani forces in Kashmir, the disputed region between India and Pakistan. According to Northern Alliance sources, he has now been taken into custody by soldiers from the U.S. Special Forces

Go ahead; keep defending him, but do NOT bother quoting the United States Constitution to us.

97 posted on 04/01/2002 3:10:13 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Freetus
it isn't the FBI interview that they suppressed that matters

*sigh* Try to keep up; no evidence has been ruled in or out yet.

98 posted on 04/01/2002 3:11:03 PM PST by Howlin
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To: VA Advogado
I'd LOVE to see that.
99 posted on 04/01/2002 3:12:20 PM PST by Howlin
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