Posted on 04/01/2002 1:38:53 PM PST by Oldeconomybuyer
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| U.S. Taliban fighter John Walker Lindh returned to federal court on April 1, 2002 as his lawyers battled with government prosecutors over what kind of evidence can be used in his conspiracy trial. This picture, released by Lindh's lawyers on April 1, 2002 as part of the evidence, was taken by the US government when Lindh was at Camp Rhino in Kandahar, Afghanistan, in December 2001. Photo by Reuters (Handout) |
He does not have the money to pay for the high ticket lawyer team defending his son!
Don't know who you are, but I'll give you some advice, don't come to a gun fight with a knife.
We LIKE the Constitution here and can quote it chapter and verse.
One of the things we LIKE about it is it says when you take up arms against this country YOU DON'T HAVE the rights that use to be yours.
I've seen prisoners in maximum security here in the US. They are shackled worse than that just to be walked to the shower.
You have a point when you indicate that name-calling is seldom persuasive or productive. Let me try to respond to you without it.
This mope's lawyers want us to see the picture and imagine their client has been abused or tortured. That seems to be what you see.
But I'm not so inclined to give the benefit of the doubt to criminal defense lawyers (and by implication say that U. S. service members are basically sadists) -- because that's not my experience with how the world usually is. I speak from my military experience, among other things.
There are plenty of legitimate reasons why a battlefield captive would be restrained (in this country police and prison guards do it all the time -- especially when transporting prisoners), and reasons why he might be photographed. It doesn't violate the constitution, and doesn't bother me either.
One pictur really doesn't tell us that much, since there are many possible explanations for what it shows. Without knowing more, it mostly just shows us what the viewer thinks. You seem to see the worst in the U. S. military, and that's not what I see, nor is it what many other Freepers see. I think that's why you got a strong reaction.
We've seen this act before. Some liberal intellectual snot registers in order to debate the "conservative cretins." The condescending tone grows old after about two posts, and the arguments aren't any more sophisticated than MurryMom's. They are merely phrased differently.
Oh, but I see, it isn't the FBI interview that they suppressed that matters - only the brief soundbite pumped out by CNN.
Nope. They never found out about it before the uprising. He was down in the basement with the other terrorists when they flooded him out and when they put him on a truck to transport him from that siutation, then HE told a Newsweek reporter that he was an American.
I think the wife is chipping in too.
Was this before there were jails made or to be had?
I still have no mercy on terrorists.
What are you doing, trying to damage these people's self-esteem? /sarcasm
Shall we sic Demidog and his handler, Tpaine on him?
Pay attention now. The lovely group he joined up with was on the U.S. list of terrorist organizations.
He took up arms against his country. It says right on your passport, if you join forces against this country, you have to turn in your flag.
From Newsweek:
Walker, who suffered a gunshot wound, starvation and near-drowning when the basement of the fortress was flooded, was one of about 80 Taliban supporters to survive a vicious, weeklong battle that left a CIA agent and hundreds of foreign fighters dead. Shortly after his capture last weekend, Walker identified himself as an American citizen and told a NEWSWEEK reporter that he had come to Afghanistan to help the Taliban build a “pure Islamic state.” In a subsequent interview with CNN from his hospital bed, Walker described himself as a “jihadi”, a fighter of holy wars, and said that he had received combat training at a camp in Afghanistan where Osama bin Laden appeared several times. Before joining the war in Afghanistan, Walker said he had fought alongside Pakistani forces in Kashmir, the disputed region between India and Pakistan. According to Northern Alliance sources, he has now been taken into custody by soldiers from the U.S. Special Forces
Go ahead; keep defending him, but do NOT bother quoting the United States Constitution to us.
*sigh* Try to keep up; no evidence has been ruled in or out yet.
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