Posted on 03/28/2002 11:03:29 AM PST by marshmallow
Author blames almost everything on the Illuminati, who he says want to create fascist global state
The terrorist attacks on New York and Washington were undertaken by the Illuminati -- the human descendants of alien reptiles who want to create a global fascist state. So was Pearl Harbor, the assassination of John F. Kennedy and the death of Princess Diana. George W. Bush was a member of Yale University's secret Skull and Bones Club. So was his father, former president George Bush, and both are gofers for the Illuminati. So is British Prime Minister Tony Blair.
Welcome to Conspiracy Nation: the country of David Icke, an author and speaker who has created a lucrative global audience for himself by gathering every conspiracy theory available into one all-encompassing super-conspiracy.
In Icke's view, it's no accident that 9/11 is also the number for emergency. Numerology and ritual codes are, after all, a big part of the Illuminati's modus operandi. The Illuminati are also fond of symbols such as twin towers (read: the World Trade Center) -- a symbol that goes back to ancient times.
These were among the revelations Icke delivered to thousands of people who listened to his speeches on Saturday, Sunday and Monday at the Vancouver East Cinema.
The Canadian Jewish Congress had urged the owner of the Vancouver East cinema to cancel the appearances, fearful that Icke's "Illuminati" is code for the international Jewish conspiracy.
Most of Icke's Vancouver devotees, however, were not traditional anti-Semitic types: older rural far-right fanatics or neo-Nazi white power skinheads.
Instead, most of Icke's followers were well-educated, New Age-y, non-racists who have come to doubt the official government line. Many are readers of local New Age journals like Shared Vision and Common Ground, which advertised Icke's visit. Many share the anti-globalization, anti-corporate view of much of the political left.
However, many have adopted the conspiratorial -- almost paranoid -- perspective of the far-right.
Icke's evil-doers are also the favourite targets of the American far-right groups: the Freemasons, the Rothschilds and other Jewish banking elites, the Catholic hierarchy, the Rockefellers, the Israeli secret police, and various business and public policy think tanks and associations, including the Council on Foreign Relations, the Trilateral Commission and the Bilderberg meeting of international movers and shakers.
The gist of Icke's message is that the motor of history is run by small cabals of bad people.
All social conflicts -- the Second World War, the Sept. 11 attacks, you name it -- are manipulated by the Illuminati and their henchmen. George W. Bush knew the attacks were coming -- that's why he was talking to Florida school kids when they happened. U.S. military jets capable of intercepting the hijacked planes were deliberately held back so the attacks could occur and give Washington a pretext to attack Afghanistan and launch a protracted war against terrorism.
Chidakash Street attended one of Icke's five-hour sessions this weekend. He runs Serenity by the Sea, a year-round retreat on Galiano Island that offers bodywork, reiki and crystal toning. Street said he was attracted to Icke because he too had doubts about the official line on world events.
"This stuff rattles around in my brain and drives me crazy. And so along comes David Icke and he puts it all together."
Street dismissed recent charges reported in The Vancouver Sun about Icke being anti-Semitic. Street noted The Sun is owned by Southam Publications Inc. and that the Southam corporate logo -- a torch -- sometimes appears on The Sun's editorial page.
"The torch is a sign of the Illuminati," said Street, adding the torch on the Statue of Liberty in New York City was "presented by Freemasons, which is the club of the Illuminati."
Street added that "all you got to do is spend one hour on the Internet plugging in these words and seeing where it leads you and you will find that what he is putting out isn't a theory that Icke has concocted."
Patrick Coady, a vice-president of two local dot-coms, came across Icke's writings while researching reports about the CIA selling drugs in Central America.
Coady has no problem accepting the existence of the Illuminati. "The Illuminati is one term. I've also seen them referred to as the world management team. It's basically large groups of rich people, Freemasons and the Council of Rome. It's a loose term for the group that controls most of the media, most of the large transnational corporations and banks, groups that have pushed for free trade."
On Icke's view that the Illuminati descended from reptilian space aliens, Coady was more ambivalent. "But I do know that if you take a look at the bloodlines of the royalty, and the bloodlines of most of the very powerful people in business and in government around the world, they all seemed to have intermarried. They don't seem to mingle with the general population."
Heather-Anne Briton, who was attracted to Icke's speech by an ad in Common Ground, said she isn't sure if she believes all of Icke's theories, but "he does give you a wider perspective on what could be going on."
Briton added the concept of the Illuminati has credibility given the spread of globalization. "Canadians voted down free trade and we got it anyway. So there has to be something to that."
And then there's B.C. Premier Gordon Campbell. "He said that protest is part of democracy, but I think democracy is listening to what we're saying. They're suppose to listen to us, but they aren't. And so, yes, I think there is somebody else pulling the strings."
That many of Icke's local followers are liberal-minded people shaped by the '60s counter-culture is more worrisome to the Canadian Jewish Congress than if his fans were all rabid neo-Nazis.
"It's much more scary to us," said CJC vice-chair Mark Wexler. "This is a largely liberal or communitarian group seeking spiritual development and they have been led astray by Icke. The New Age approach correlates intelligence with paranoia. The idea is that on the Web there are secret bits of information and that somewhere all of these secrets come together and make sense."
That is the dumbest statement Ive ever heard on Free Republic and Ive heard some big ones. The Clintons were lower middle class Southern whites. They didnt hobnob with Yankee blue bloods. Next you will say they took part in human sacrifices at Kennebunkport. Geez, get back on your meds or get more tin foil.
I've read some of his stuff, and he is clearly mentally ill. It's actually a bit sad, because I get the feeling he is or was a fairly intelligent person, at some level. I actually get a kick out of his "shape-shifter" conspiracy theories. They ought to be true.
Oh yeah? Not according to the Arkansas State Trooper, (it was either Brown or Patterson, I believe) that made the statement. Ask Chuck Baldwin about it (www.chuckbaldwinlive.com). He's a radio show host out of Florida and has repeated the statement often. I tend to believe it because I know that the difference between Bush I, Bush II and Clinton is in reality nothing at all, the only difference is the group of the population that believes (and desperately clings to) the notion that, finally, By God, our man is in there. And therein lies the problem - You dont know who the enemy is, do you Dave?
What you fail to realize, Mr. Dave S., in your state of naive bliss and ignorance about your TRUE situation in this world, is that The Bush family and The Clintons are just servants to the Rockefellers and their ilk, and they just fool meatheads like yourself with all this shadow boxing that passes for political discourse in this country.
So my advice to you is: do a liitle more research (follow the money and the associations) and a little less puffing out your chest and beating upon it. WAKE UP!!!
That Rockefeller garbage, is an OLD conspiracy theory, which was wrong then, and is stil wrong. the Clintons and the Bushes have NEVER summered together in Maine. There is NO Illuminati, and hasn't been been one, for centuries. The Masons don't and have NEVER ruled the world, and neither have the Jews. And on, and on, and on.
And IF you believe in all of this twaddle, then you had best be VERY worried about me and mine, dear. : - )
Of course, I can't stay inside my foil covered house all of the time. For just $599.00 Im fully protected and doing it in style. It may be just a coincidence, but one of the benefits is that people no longer bother me with needless chitchat and, kids don't hit balls into my backyard anymore.
Life has been so much better since I got it. Those pesky "human descendants of alien reptiles who want to create a global fascist state" flee when I arrive. I get the whole grocery store to myself. Theres never a wait at the checkout. In fact theres never even anyone to check me out.
But, I know that against all odds, God, Guns and Guts made America a nation.
And, for as long as Americans have God, Guns and Guts, we will remain free!
The 9/11 attack was known in advance by the government. US Troops were already on the ground in Krygstan and Uzbekistan prior to that. Zbignew Bryzinzki (remember him?) wrote a book entitled "The Grand Chessboard: American Primacy and its Geostrategic Imperatives" in 1997, lays out the whole plan to go after central Euroasia, and openly discusses what would be necessary to pull this off. A good analysis of this book can be found at www.copvcia.com by Mike Ruppert.
Ask yourself this: Why were no fighter jets scrambled from Andrews Air Force Base near Washington D.C. to stop a jumbo jet that was tracked on radar that had gone all the way to the Ohio border and turned around and headed back to Washington DC.....which hit the Pentagon 58 MINUTES after the first WTC tower was hit? Why were those jets not scrambled, when all our leaders were in danger? Clearly after the 2nd plane hit the Towers any thinking person knew an attack was underway, so why wouldnt the DC airspace be secured FIRST?
You dont intimidate me, nopardons, you cheerleading patsy. Why dont you rub on your one existing brain cell, maybe you'll double your collectivist intelligence, eh?
Go back and read my post.
"And then of course is that fact that the Clintons used to regularly join with The Bush clan up in Kennebunkport for years at the Bush estate."
Now, I never said they "summered", although that's exactly what they did, according to an Arkansas State Trooper, who's word YOU obviously took against Slick Willie a few years ago.
I guess you must have heard about that one before, eh nopardons? Or your just another one of these flacks for the NWO that seem all so more apparent everyday as the whole NWO propaganda machine starts to fall apart.
Case in point: FBI's attempt to blame anthrax attacks on right-wing Americans. Turns out its a disgruntled Lee Harvey type loner alright, but he just happens to work for the taxpayers.
But then, thats just a coincidence, no pardons, like we know that they all are.
Yep, I'm a NWO type.......... ROTFLMAOPIMP ! Sure I am; there , there, I'm certain that your meds will kck in soon.
I bet that you think that EVERY conspiracy theory is true. You wil swallow, as whole cloth, anything and everything. I know why. Yo don't really know anything at all about anything, but your own tiny world. Therefore, anything , which falls out of your own personal venue, is suspect. PATHETIC !
Look, kiddo, you are repeating propaganda, lies, codswallop. You don't know anything about what you're attemptng to claim is reality. You're some little nobody, who likes to imagine that they have the " inside story ", because you've read some perfidious web site. You don't know s*&t from shineola , and neither do the " experts " you're quoting.
Oh, and you really , really should be very afraid of people like me. We're the ones whom you keep blaming for everything. : - )
So, let's see - that would include Zbignew Brzyinski (who wrote a book uncannily predicting what is going on right now in the world)
David Schippers (who tried the Impeachment case against Clinton and also tried to warn John Ashcroft of the planned attack on the World Trade Center)
At least one FBI agent being represented by Judicial Watch who will announce that he was prevented from blowing the whistle on the "Al-Queda" attack.
Willie Brown, who as reported in Newsmax as well as mainstream news accounts, was warned not to fly on Sept 11th by an inside source that he won't reveal but says he depends upon.
Salman Rushdie, who was told by the British not to fly to the US in September as a terrorist attack was being planned.
George W. Bush, who by his own actions, told the FBI to stop its investigations into BinLaden in early 2001.
John P. O'Neill, formerly the Head of the FBI's Counterterrorism Unit and in charge of the investigations into Bin-Laden and his group, who quit in disgust blaming the US Government's cosiness with the Arabs and politicasl pressure from keeping him from doing his job. He was hired by The World Trade Center as the head of security, starting his job just one day before the attack, and was killed, rather conveniently.
Then there are the abnormal amount of puts that were bought on ONLY the 2 airlines jacked: American and United, as well as many of the financial firms in the WTC and insurance firms that would be affected.
I can go on and on with this, but you dont care because youre a stupid bleeting sheep that deserves its fate. Dont try and threaten me, you are the "Nobody" that you wish to disparage my argument by calling me.
Keep your head in the sand. The patriots in this country will fight the real battles while you worry about cartoons like Gore and Gephardt.
"Why were no fighter jets scrambled from Andrews Air Force Base near Washington D.C. to stop a jumbo jet that was tracked on radar that had gone all the way to the Ohio border and turned around and headed back to Washington DC.....which hit the Pentagon 58 MINUTES after the first WTC tower was hit?"
Cant explain it, can you......yet its true. A plane, a big plane hit the Pentagon almost an hour after the first one hit in NYC. Yet our pathetic armed forces couldn't stop a giant plane right over our capitol, when the fighters were stationed right there.
Yeah right....I think you are the one swallowing something.
Up yours, rearwipe.
And as for your stupid conspiracy, everyone connected to defense and national security has admitted they never planned for such a scenario. It's entirely possible there was confusion at higher levels. Before 9/11 military fighters weren't scrambled against civilian passenger aircraft. Oh, and did I say, UP YOURS?
Read nopardons' too. LOL.
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