Posted on 03/28/2002 8:04:49 AM PST by sheltonmac
Rather than crash the pro-Bush orgy threads, I thought I would honor the requests of the "we must support the president at all costs" crowd and let them bask in their Republican utopia in ignorant bliss. Consider this a thread that seeks actual debate and discussion concerning the "accomplishments" of our current president. Feel free to voice your support or opposition to the president's policies. After all, dissension, even among conservatives, can be healthy.
This thread is in response to the blatant display of sheer ignorance on the part of some FReepers. There have been several threads initiated lately that have included some rather disturbing posts. Without naming names, I would like to share some of those with you:
"I guess when you want to get MEANINGFUL CFR you avoid the obvious veto bait and keep the issue out of the dem's hands, so that hopefully you can get a Senate elected and some JUDGES appointed.This person supports the president so much that he or she is willing to overlook the clear unconstitutionality of the Incumbent Protection Act. The president ignored his oath of office and deliberately signed an unconstitutional piece of legislation as part of some well-concealed strategy? Please.I guess when you are running a WAR you don't have time for this stuff that is nothing more than petty political junk. Instead, you get the bill where the SC can decide it."
"If you're 'proud he's your President' why don't you try supporting him instead of bashing him.Translation: President Bush is smarter than his critics. We should trust him without so much as a whimper of criticism regarding any unconstitutional legislation he may force down our throats. He hasn't betrayed anyone but the American people, so back off.He's smarter than you are. He knows what he's doing.
And he hasn't betrayed anyone."
"There are many of us who have chosen to STILL support the President even though we may disagree with some of the things he's done. Where is the reality in expecting the President to agree with you on absolutely everything he does? It's nowhere. Because that reality does not exist no matter how hard we try to convince ourselves that it does.Perhaps the "one issue" that dismays so many people is the fact that the president we are expected to support has violated the very solemn oath he swore to keep, that being his promise to uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States. Say what you want about Clinton. Play the "What if Gore were elected" game if you want. That was then, this is now. We have a president in office who essentially told America, "This law may be unconstitutional but I'm signing it anyway."But consider this. Think back two years ago... and now think of what the alternative could have been. Cripe, even Rosie O'Donnell admits she didn't like GWB, but even she supports him now. I am simply amazed that it takes one issue, one issue, to dismay so many people."
Has anyone read the statement on FreeRepublic's main page? It reads as follows:
Free Republic is an online gathering place for independent, grass-roots conservatism on the web. We're working to roll back decades of governmental largesse, to root out political fraud and corruption, and to champion causes which further conservatism in America.I always thought standing for smaller government meant just that, whether that means criticizing a Democrat or Republican administration. We need to ask ourselves one question: are we for smaller government and more freedom? If the answer is "Yes," then act accordingly. Let's not fall into the trap that says we must support the liberal policies of a president at all costs simply because he's not as liberal as a Democrat.
Maybe you should get a few more years on ya, before you start deciding who's allowed to stay.
You are kidding, right?
Welcome!
You must have missed this. Its on FreeRepublic's front page written by the owner of this board. Correct me if I'm wrong but I see no statement saying this is a Republican site.
EBUCK
As long as it's not your ox being gored...
No.
Some posters are already sensing a bit of disconnection and discomfort adding their two-cents to certain forums. The "diverse scrutiny" of the "old" Free Republic "salad bar" operation was more constructive and unique for the reasons you point out.
As an objective observer, let me suggest that those who demonstrate the need to declare themselves the victor in a given debate, seldom are.
But I don't see much difference in Bush. All I can see is once he said that what Sharon was doing 'was unhelpful' all the 'conservative' pundits and posters have descended on him like ants on liverwurst.
They have established that they have the power to restrict when you can say certain things. They have set the initial time period as 60 days before it matters. They will adjust this as need be to stifle opposition. When they reach 365 days, you will probably (but not certainly) understand what happened to you.
No speech has been outlawed.
LOL, amazing conclusion.
There is a difference, and were it not for the hysteria induced myopia, you would see that.
You are comatose, these people are hysterical. The final end result of this hero worship has just been reached by you. I wondered how long it would take one of you to actually begin to defend the bill.
Your way stalls the passing of the bill, His way Kills it, and helps to solidify Conservative Ground for the Next 2 election cycles.
Fairly obvious, when you take reality into account, rather than tilting at windmills in search of utopia, like MR. Magoo, playing Don Quixote.
Yep! and that is exactly what I have been saying but you said it so much better.
Already this issue is headed for the Supreme Court as unconstitutional and that was what I had hoped for and I THINK what GW was counting on.
I recall you posted a thread looking for "Conservative Principles".
Looks like you succeeded. Thanks for posting your results.
HELL NO!!!!!!
Ugh oh, somebody just read an American History book, you will also note that they were freed and are just now asking for reparations. Some quick chapters but they are rich in history and you dont even have to remember the dates any longer.
Athens?
He had seen plenty of democracy and that is where you are going. You would have us end up BEING the Clintons.
No thank you. Fascism is no fix for democracy.
Me, too!
When are you leaving? Could you please show Roscoe the door, as well?
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