Posted on 03/28/2002 8:04:49 AM PST by sheltonmac
Rather than crash the pro-Bush orgy threads, I thought I would honor the requests of the "we must support the president at all costs" crowd and let them bask in their Republican utopia in ignorant bliss. Consider this a thread that seeks actual debate and discussion concerning the "accomplishments" of our current president. Feel free to voice your support or opposition to the president's policies. After all, dissension, even among conservatives, can be healthy.
This thread is in response to the blatant display of sheer ignorance on the part of some FReepers. There have been several threads initiated lately that have included some rather disturbing posts. Without naming names, I would like to share some of those with you:
"I guess when you want to get MEANINGFUL CFR you avoid the obvious veto bait and keep the issue out of the dem's hands, so that hopefully you can get a Senate elected and some JUDGES appointed.This person supports the president so much that he or she is willing to overlook the clear unconstitutionality of the Incumbent Protection Act. The president ignored his oath of office and deliberately signed an unconstitutional piece of legislation as part of some well-concealed strategy? Please.I guess when you are running a WAR you don't have time for this stuff that is nothing more than petty political junk. Instead, you get the bill where the SC can decide it."
"If you're 'proud he's your President' why don't you try supporting him instead of bashing him.Translation: President Bush is smarter than his critics. We should trust him without so much as a whimper of criticism regarding any unconstitutional legislation he may force down our throats. He hasn't betrayed anyone but the American people, so back off.He's smarter than you are. He knows what he's doing.
And he hasn't betrayed anyone."
"There are many of us who have chosen to STILL support the President even though we may disagree with some of the things he's done. Where is the reality in expecting the President to agree with you on absolutely everything he does? It's nowhere. Because that reality does not exist no matter how hard we try to convince ourselves that it does.Perhaps the "one issue" that dismays so many people is the fact that the president we are expected to support has violated the very solemn oath he swore to keep, that being his promise to uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States. Say what you want about Clinton. Play the "What if Gore were elected" game if you want. That was then, this is now. We have a president in office who essentially told America, "This law may be unconstitutional but I'm signing it anyway."But consider this. Think back two years ago... and now think of what the alternative could have been. Cripe, even Rosie O'Donnell admits she didn't like GWB, but even she supports him now. I am simply amazed that it takes one issue, one issue, to dismay so many people."
Has anyone read the statement on FreeRepublic's main page? It reads as follows:
Free Republic is an online gathering place for independent, grass-roots conservatism on the web. We're working to roll back decades of governmental largesse, to root out political fraud and corruption, and to champion causes which further conservatism in America.I always thought standing for smaller government meant just that, whether that means criticizing a Democrat or Republican administration. We need to ask ourselves one question: are we for smaller government and more freedom? If the answer is "Yes," then act accordingly. Let's not fall into the trap that says we must support the liberal policies of a president at all costs simply because he's not as liberal as a Democrat.
It's not well concealed, it's fairly obvious to the undoltish.
Yes, most of the Bill is unconstitutional, So what happens if Bush Vetoes it? The bill gets packed away in Dassholes desk drawer until....A new president comes along and will sign it, and for his trouble, the biggest 2 proponents of the bill,McAnus, and the Mainstream media, Bash the living crap out of him, rekindle their love affair, give him an asspain primary in'03-'04, and use the issue to cost him ground in the middle against his Dem opponent in '04. Oh yes, and it also makes it a campaign issue for the 38 Republicans that voted agianst it in the Senate,where by my count, we need a net gain of 1 seat in '02 to have control.
OTOH, sign the Bill, The media is happy, so they leave him alone, McCain has NO SIGNATURE ISSUE to push himself into the Primaries, or to draw media attention, and when the Court shreds the bill, it will be DEAD. Not Vetoed and Waiting for another President.
Your way stalls the passing of the bill, His way Kills it, and helps to solidify Conservative Ground for the Next 2 election cycles.
Fairly obvious, when you take reality into account, rather than tilting at windmills in search of utopia, like MR. Magoo, playing Don Quixote.
Bush is a genius... he MEANT to divide the GOP to throw the Dems off balance!
Who do you want, Hillary?
I can tell you voted for Bushanan!
Disruptor from DU!
McCainiac!
Gorebot!
Bushbasher!
Bush-hater!
You hate Laura because she's a stron woman!
Libertarian!
etc!
Did I miss any?
It's law of the land!
Pray the Supreme Court does the right thing.......want to blame someone call McCain's and Chris Shays offices and all the other RINO who pushed this bill thru Congress!!!!
Just remember, we are still recovering from the Oval Office alternative.
This is nothing new, the Constitution was being used as toilet paper by big government long before Bush came around. He's just more blatant about it.
You do have your flame suit on, right? Once the pro-Bush lackeys notice this post, you can be sure you'll need it.
Did McCain sign it?
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