***George W. Bush: Master Politician and Great American***

Stardate: 0203.28 | the Wizard

[The Wizard]

It was so clean it was un-noticed by his enemies, and decried by his supporters, but GWB has just demonstrated a political ability that no-one on the left, and very few on the right ever saw.....

I always refer to the old Zorro scene with Basil Rathbone as the villian slicing a candle to show Tyrone Power how deft he is with a sword, because when "Zorro" does it the candle doesn't move....(The point is then shown that Tyrone's cut was SOOOOO smooth he sliced the candle so well he cut it without moving it....a truly great scene)

The First Lady did the same thing to Algore with her "...My husband sleeps with a teacher EVERY night..." comment that was so smooth a cut most of the media hasn't picked up the wound even today....

Well good Freeper Friends, that's what Old George did to the left with Johnny McCain's unconstitutional CFR Bill....

He fooled them into passing a billl that allowed more hard money, (something they would never ever allowed because it has NEVER, EVER been raised by anyone like our Commander and Chief) allowing them to include provisions that they thought would give them the edge, while knowing that others would attack and have thrown out all the offending provisions before they ever took effect, but the severably would allow the things not challanged to stand: Outcome

hard money limits have been raised and will stay raised, and the bad parts will be strck down, and we can now see that McCain was always working with GWB and the poor dems never knew it.....

What a political play.......cut to the bone and not even seeing it til after surgery is complete......

[cake_crumb]

"In this case, however, I believe they, the dems were working the other way.
They were hoping bush would veto, after they and the willing accomplices of the media had "prepped" the minds of voters as to the nastiness of enron and "money grubbing republicans", then they would have harped ad nasueum through next November, in an effort to regain the house while maintaining the senate, which, after all, is the ball here that we need to keep our eyes on."

ABSOLUTELY! I'd like to believe the president is acutely aware of that fact as well.

[ModernDayCato]

"My ubderstanding is that this bill would allolw the courts to find portions of the bill unconstitutional and allow other parts of the bill to stand. As opposed to the court striking down the entire bill. Is this correct?"

Yes.

Well, sort of. The so-called 'non-severability' clause is a joke. This is a little gem borrowed from contract law. SCOTUS is under absolutely no obligation to abide by it. Congress has no right to tell them how to do their jobs.

[A Vast RightWing Conspirator]

I was able to dig these off a nearly-forgotten document. I believe it's called "The Consitution..." or something like that.

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

Before he enter on the execution of his office, he shall take the following oath or affirmation:--"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."

[ModernDayCato]

Nice try. You can just put that away now. We have to get our hands dirty and toss that useless document aside so that we can beat our enemy and then get all of the conservatives elected so that we can really start running this country the way it was supposed to be, according to the ... oh, never mind.

[uncbob]

They will do ANYTHING imaginable to achieve these goals, and conservatives have to ever be vigilant, and make the best possible play for each and every scenario. Sometimes that involves swallowing pride,

And if you think you are going to play games with the democrats and win you are mistaken. They are gutter fighters and trying to outsmart them by some POLITICAL RUSE isn't going to work.

Bush should have been principled and vetoed it LIKE HE PROMISED other wise his WORDS MEAN NOTHING

Just tell me what if any thing should I believe that he promises in the future

[cake_crumb]

"What's P.O.D.?"

Power of Democracy. Senior high course on the Democratic process. Required in all American public schools, or at it used to be. My daughter, a senior in high school, is taking it. It's still a required course at her school

[antidemocommie]

What? GW is trying to win an election by playing both a liberal and a conservative, but while doing so, he has greatly upset his very conervative base.

Thats not how you win an election...denying your principles is never good. Reagan didn't do that, and neither should GS!

Never ever vote for unconstitutional legislation and call yourself a conservative.

[RamsNo1]

Yes, I saw John Huang's piece last night and he is a great writer. See, I am listening. John has the ability to look at things from all sides which is more than most of those here who are unwilling to see that some conservatives are independent thinkers. I am not from the DU or a disruptor, I am person who recently lost both my parents and this has made me much less idealistic and more realistic about life, in general. I can no longer worship Bush like I used to and he looks alot like my father. I won't automatically believe that SCOTUS striking down this bill will actually happen until I hear and see it with my own eyes and ears.

[uncbob]

You can be principled all you want amongst yourselves, but you better leave that nonsense at the door when you go to war.

RIGHT ON
Seize the tv networks. Shut down the newspapers. do away with trial by jury. Search everybodys house at will . Close all the churches

Screw the Constitution
The hell will all that nonsense

[ModernDayCato]

We used to call that Civics. Unfortunately, we don't live in a Democracy. We live in a Constitutional Republic.

[headsonpikes]

"It's still a required course at her school."

That might supply you with a hint as to whether it's a good course, or just more socialistic agitprop. ;^)

[RamsNo1]

Thank you for this post.

[rdb3]

A man without principle is not a man.

That's an entirely positive statement of little worth. It's not normative in any way.

Changing your mind does not constitute a lie. A lie is told if it is untrue at that moment, or having specific knowledge, was untrue. A lie does not go forward. It stays only in the present or goes back to the past. If I say I'm going to Six Flags this weekend, then Saturday comes and I don't go, did I lie? Did I lose my "principle?" No. I changed my mind.

But like I said, we are at war whether you want to believe it or not. The Left is in a constant state of war with us. They aren't talking about "principles." We are, and get our heads handed to us continually.

When do the gloves come off? When you find your precious "principles" being used as a noose around your neck, you'd best check yourself.

Fight to win, by any means necessary, or die. You make the choice.

As for me, I say praise God and pass the ammunition.

[ModernDayCato]

Really simple question there, Sun Tzu --

What are you fighting for, and whom are you fighting?

[The Old Hoosier]

CFR isn't even a blimp on the radar screen.

What, exactly, would a blimp be doing on a radar screen, anyway?

[ModernDayCato]

P.S. = 'Screw principles' and 'Praise God' in the same posting actually caused me to laugh so hard I spit coffee all over my desk.

[rdb3]

All that tripe you just posted had absolutely nothing to do with what I actually wrote.

Try again.

[rdb3]

That you had to ask such a question speaks volumes.

[NittanyLion]

A lie is told if it is untrue at that moment, or having specific knowledge, was untrue.

At the same time, voters have a reasonable expectation that politicians will follow through with what was promised during their campaign. The basis for casting their vote depends in large part on campaign promises - that is why some people get particularly irritated when one is broken.

[rdb3]

Really? Well, that's nothing that a little 409 can't clean up.