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Why the reparations suit, especially, it's arguements don't make sense to me.
3/28/02 | Me-JSteff

Posted on 03/27/2002 10:20:56 PM PST by JSteff

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I am not sure I posted this right under the new system. I do not write as concise as I might like. Thanks for reading and can't wait for your thoughts.
1 posted on 03/27/2002 10:20:56 PM PST by JSteff
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The title should read-- Why the reparations suit, especially it's arguements, just don't make sense to me.
2 posted on 03/27/2002 10:22:31 PM PST by JSteff
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if you want to have the headline changed, bump the Admin Moderator.
3 posted on 03/27/2002 10:29:06 PM PST by GeronL
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5 posted on 03/27/2002 11:23:27 PM PST by RJayneJ
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My blunt and candid take on reparations?

Blacks are becoming a "minority within other minorities"-- Hispanics & Asian-Americans are eclipsing them in numbers-- and this is a last-gasp effort to pick everybody else's pocket one last time.

Decent people- of any color- see right through this facade, but the greedy & ignorant are enthralled by the spectacle.

6 posted on 03/28/2002 1:13:20 AM PST by backhoe
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7 posted on 03/28/2002 1:20:09 AM PST by ppaul
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To: backhoe
There you go, trying to apply logic to these suits. - Wrong.

These actions aren't suppose to make sense, they are just suppose to make you feel guilty.

Well, I don't.

8 posted on 03/28/2002 1:27:30 AM PST by Kerberos
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Those who were victimized are long dead.

For their descendants to show damages, it seems to me, they must show that, but for the removal of their ancestors from Ghana (or wherever), they would be....what?

As wealthy as the average Ghanian?

As safe as the average inhabitant of Sierra Leone?

As healthy as the average resident of Ivory Coast?

Have the life expectancy of Togo?

A trial will show that the descendants of American slaves have benefited, not been damaged, by the experience of their ancestors.

Now, this does not by any means justify the injury inflicted on their ancestors. But the ancestors cannot recover, because they are dead. A tort plaintiff has to be damaged personally, AFAIK.

9 posted on 03/28/2002 1:40:23 AM PST by Jim Noble
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The people behind this swindle are letting their greed blind them to how much damage such fraudulent claims cause the already badly damaged relations among the races.

Never forget- you won't see the quiet dissenters from this on TV- the press only likes the outrageous, the noisy, the charismatic- people who fit neatly into a 5-second sound bite.

Most decent people I know- of any color- think this is garbage, but you will never hear their words on TV or see their faces.

10 posted on 03/28/2002 1:50:59 AM PST by backhoe
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"Most decent people I know- of any color- think this is garbage, but you will never hear their words on TV or see their faces"

True, but I have to ask the question as to why you don't see blacks on TV denouncing this nonsense, aside from the fact that the liberal media won't let them on.

The main conclusion that I come up with is that they are too busy trying to knock at a decent life for themselves and their families. They don't have time for such nonsense.

Would like to write more but I have to get off to work. There are untold unfortunates depending on me to get there on time.

11 posted on 03/28/2002 1:59:48 AM PST by Kerberos
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It's all about Money.
Some people want free money for doing nothing, for something that never happened to them personally.
12 posted on 03/28/2002 2:04:47 AM PST by RightWinger
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OK, I think I have a counter case that can be filed in this matter.

Whites should initiate a lawsuit against the government that says that the government erred when implementing the emancipation in that the property in question, slaves, was not returned to it's proper owners, Africa, and thereby subjected future generations of whites to unnecessary legal liability.

And that the cost of this oversight should be paid by ah, government workers.

13 posted on 03/28/2002 2:13:16 AM PST by Kerberos
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Good thoughts, thanks!

We all have stories of ancestors who lived the hard life. We all have had our troubles and tribulations in life. But we are where we are because we and our ancestors expended the effort to get there.

We are where we are in life because of the decisions that we, as individuals, made along the way. If a person decides to drop out of high school, they will reap the consequences of not having that diploma later in life. If a person decides to sink his/her life savings into bad investments, they will reap the fruits of that as well.

Conversely, if a person decides to hunker down and study in school, and learn and develop their skills, the chances of them becoming successful in life are greatly increased.

I'm tired of listening to people who are otherwise able bodied, clear-thinking human beings, whine about how they have been short-changed in life. Especially (they think) because of their race or heritage. I personally know quite a few successful African-Americans who have made a good life for themselves and their families. They're good friends of mine.

Reparations are just another way for one segment of society to extract something from the rest of society. This is nothing more than a legal mugging of the American people.

Look, except for any possible glaring handicaps at birth, most of us were given the same amount of brain power when we entered this world. How we use it is entirely up to us. But be ready to reap what you sow.

14 posted on 03/28/2002 2:19:29 AM PST by peteram
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I think that your observation about slaves being capital investments, and therefore not generally physically abused is probably pretty valid. It was more cost efficient to hire Irish for the more dangerous jobs. Afterall, the Irishman was working by free will and could be discharged when he got injured, or the job was finished. I'm not whining about the Irish in particular, I know lots of Americans of Irish extraction and none of them are planning to seek reparations.

I had to laugh when I heard that africanhyphenamericanhyphenfemale lawyer interviewed on the news. She spoke as though the results of their suit is a foregone conclusion.

15 posted on 03/28/2002 2:36:19 AM PST by RushLake
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To: Jim Noble
Excellent points. The angle they are taking is that they are damaged because they are somehow affected by what happened to their ancestors.
16 posted on 03/28/2002 10:43:25 AM PST by JSteff
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So true LOL

Whites should initiate a lawsuit against the government that says that the government erred when implementing the emancipation in that the property in question, slaves, was not returned to it's proper owners, Africa, and thereby subjected future generations of whites to unnecessary legal liability.

The thing is I bet very, very, very few would have gone. They knew what it was really like over there and that they had a better chance over here.

17 posted on 03/28/2002 10:49:47 AM PST by JSteff
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I hate to disagree with the last-gasp effort to pick everybody else's pocket one last time because I do not think it is. They will continue to try to because a large part of the black population has been raised on the something for nothing mentality.

That won't end because they are becoming a true minority.. in fact it may make them even more rabid because they as a group are basically falling out of the scope of American life. The claim will be that the slave issue set them up to be a minority among minorities.

18 posted on 03/28/2002 10:59:00 AM PST by JSteff
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"The thing is I bet very, very, very few would have gone. "

Who said anything about providing a choice?

19 posted on 03/28/2002 11:01:36 AM PST by Kerberos
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I'm not whining about the Irish in particular, I know lots of Americans of Irish extraction and none of them are planning to seek reparations.

Maybe they should from God, after all he let them even be born Irish. </Old Philly sarcasm

20 posted on 03/28/2002 11:03:20 AM PST by JSteff
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