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Bush signs Campaign Reform, NRA Sues
AP/Yahoo ^ | 03/25/02 | SCOTT LINDLAW

Posted on 03/27/2002 7:10:33 AM PST by PeteF

GREENVILLE, S.C. (AP) - President Bush signed landmark campaign finance legislation Wednesday and the National Rifle Association swiftly filed suit challenging the constitutionality of the new law.

Bush signed the measure in the Oval Office — without the public signing ceremony often staged for major legislation. In a written statement, he said that while the bill has flaws, it "improves the current system of financing for federal campaigns."

Bush then embarked on a two-day swing to South Carolina and Georgia, where he planned to raise more than $3 million for GOP candidates for Congress.

Critics have long argued the legislation violates the Constitution, and the NRA was the first in line to file its challenge at the federal courthouse a few blocks from the White House. The legislation "eviscerates the core protections of the First Amendment by prohibiting, on pain on criminal punishment, political speech," said a legal complaint filed on behalf of the NRA and its political victory fund.


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bush; campaignreform; cfr; nra
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To: ArrogantBustard
However, someone with a less constrained view of what is Constitutional could sign it into law later.

Better that the courts kill this law for good.

81 posted on 03/27/2002 7:53:05 AM PST by Poohbah
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To: Howlin
Be nice if someone took Klayman's computers away! Alas and alack...we're stuck with the publicity crazed mad man.
82 posted on 03/27/2002 7:55:06 AM PST by OldFriend
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To: gov_bean_ counter; Congressman Billybob; RAT Patrol; Mass Exodus
Agreed. The better way to defend the Constitution is to kill this thing for good.

We've put up with the abomination known as Roe v. Wade for nearly 30 years. It will take at LEAST that long, if not longer, for opponents to attack political speech after we win this fight.

Do we defend this and secure the Constitution for three or four years, or do we go for a win that lasts three or four decades or longer?

83 posted on 03/27/2002 7:55:11 AM PST by hchutch
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To: Howlin

Yep ol larr must have slipped some not to be at the court house this morning to file his request.... But he will as he needs to get more donations so he can give himself another raise.... You know $250,000+ a year is pittance for the most important job he has.... You know Vern... like hosting the "clean up crusies", flying over to the Hague to file a suit against Fidel, and most importantly filing all those FOIA...

84 posted on 03/27/2002 7:55:34 AM PST by deport
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To: dasher
This is the latter, IMHO. He knows the score on this, and besides, the ruling on this will last at least as long as Roe v. Wade did. Common Cause is burnt toast on this within fifteen months.
85 posted on 03/27/2002 7:56:48 AM PST by hchutch
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To: hoosiermama
It is NOT his place to determine whether the law is constitutional or not.

It most certainly is. See "Oath of Office."

86 posted on 03/27/2002 7:56:58 AM PST by B Knotts
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To: Satadru

Yep, ought to make it easier for you to get your candidate nominated next go round.... "makes sense" to me.

87 posted on 03/27/2002 7:57:24 AM PST by deport
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To: PeteF
I hope they had it filed at the Court Clerk's office before the ink on Busk's signature was dry.
88 posted on 03/27/2002 7:57:37 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants
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To: Dave S
How many times do I have to teach you newbies the facts of political life.

Ah, yes. It is always the seasoned political insider like you who needs to impugn those who disagree with him. Yes, please prattle on and illuminate we poor dim-witted lot who are unwilling to suck down every lemon that the Republican leadership throws our way.

You dont dont control the Senate with 51 votes. You cant get permission to sneeze in the Senate without 60 votes. Any single member can hold up any bill or any appointment unless you can get sixty senators to vote with you on stopping the filbuster.

My point EXACTLY, oh wise and erudite senior Freeper member. My point is all this talk about our gains in the fall are bogus! We need to make major gains in seats to accomplish all the good that supporters of this bad legislation say we will reap. It is not going to happen.

The same thing is true to a lesser extent in the House. Gingrich had much more fun and success as being the minority guy that got to throw a wrench into the works and prevent legislation from passing. A tough minority can stop legislation but a numerical majority doesnt ensure its passage.

Who is the political newbie? You sound just like Trent Lot. Hey everybody, it's a good thing we lost control of the Senate! Yipee! It's great!

And speaking of Gingrich, how did he ride to power? On an agenda, not be riding the wave of non-comittal ideology. He spelled out a vision and laid it out as an option to voters. Bush is NOT doing that. His only vision appears to be running the war.

Being in the majority did help from the standpoint of chairing the various committes giving you some discretion on when to schedule meetings, etc. But that was lost with Jeffords betrayal.

Granted for the Senate. But my point still stands. You need to have people in those seats that support your agenda or you will have a reenactment of the Jeffords mess. When you're counting on the support of RINOs in the Senate, you being delusional.

89 posted on 03/27/2002 7:57:52 AM PST by BigTime
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To: PeteF
Bush organized the Bill's defeat in the Supreme Court.

I expected the lawsuit to be immediate. It was.

I expect the Supreme Court to take this up and rule it unconstitutional before it can actually do any real damage. They will.

The only thing here that has my interest is how the Supreme Court will rule. Will the Liberal Judges all file dissenting opinions, thereby voting for the dismantling of the US Constitution? I wouldn't put it past them.

Take it easy everybody.

Eddie01

90 posted on 03/27/2002 7:58:34 AM PST by The Real Eddie01
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To: SuziQ
Amen! C'mon, folks, put up or shut up. Are we going to give this guy a good hand, or will we be led on the path to the political equivalent of suicide charges?
91 posted on 03/27/2002 7:59:52 AM PST by hchutch
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To: sinkspur
The GOP has TWICE as many hard money donors as the Democrats.

Ahhh...only if this has not estranged conservatives to stop donating money to the GOP.

93 posted on 03/27/2002 8:00:14 AM PST by Satadru
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To: Mr. Bungle
I, also, am proud of "those neat (NRA) ball caps" and I wear them all the time. I unfortunately live in lefty-liberal NJ and commute to work to NYC. Am always getting dirty looks on the NJ Transit trains to and from work. I ignore them. I am a petite female, so, to others, my caps probably seem even more unexpected.

Just last week, I was walking on the Upper West Side (Moscow on the Hudson), and wearing my one that says "Charleton Heston is MY President." I must have gotten a dirty look from every third person on the sidewalk. (The other two out of three didn't notice or I'm sure they would have done the same.)

It isn't unusual for a stranger to make an occasional nasty comment and without missing a beat my first reply is, "Counting on the police to make it in time to save you when some rapist or murderer is breaking into your house is like calling Dial-a-Prayer." If they persist with the issue, so do I.

God bless the NRA and our pro-second amendment groups.

Meanwhile, because NJ is so anti-gun, I am going on Month Four in my wait for my gun ownership permit.

94 posted on 03/27/2002 8:00:48 AM PST by hot august night
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To: BigTime

Sure they will as will the GOP. I don't think the GOP has declared themselves out of the game at all.....

What Reform?

95 posted on 03/27/2002 8:01:20 AM PST by deport
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To: The Real Eddie01
Bush organized the Bill's defeat in the Supreme Court.

Hey..look up. There is a black helicopter over your head.

96 posted on 03/27/2002 8:01:29 AM PST by Satadru
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To: Poohbah
"Sometimes, principled leadership means signing crap like this, to make sure it gets killed in the courts vs. hoping it never comes up again."

Let me tell you why President Dubya signed "this piece of dung." One reason and one reason only - SIGNING IT FOREVER REMOVES THE ISSUE FROM THE DEMS. The Dems gave up the issue in return for a bill. Although they have preferred having the issue for years, this year, they made the strategic blunder to trade that issue for a flawed bill.

What will now happen, which would NOT had Bush vetoed it, is that the courts will declare it unconstitutional. Net result - the DEMS will have lost BOTH the bill AND THE ISSUE.

That's why he signed it. He avoids the media whitewash, which was sure to have been massive (since they haven't gotten anything to stick to him in 9 months), and he defeats the Dems by taking the issue away from them and exiling it to the trash heap. Damn fine West Texas strategery, if'n ya ask me.

Any time you can surgically remove an issue from the Dems, it IS a victory.

Michael

97 posted on 03/27/2002 8:02:25 AM PST by Wright is right!
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To: aomagrat
The liberal controled courts will quickly throw this out, while seriously considering the slave reparations lawsuits.

The liberal controlled courts will not quickly throw this out. The severability issue is a clear attempt by Congress to limit Judicial Branch powers. I have a strong feeling that more than a few Supreme Court Justices are preparing to send Congress a clear message, DON'T TRY TO USURP JUDICIAL BRANCH POWERS BY LEGISLATING WHAT THE SUPREME COURT CAN OR CANNOT DO WHEN DECIDING THE CONSTITUTIONALITY OF LAWS ENACTED BY THE LEGISLATIVE BRANCH.

98 posted on 03/27/2002 8:02:46 AM PST by hflynn
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To: The Real Eddie01
A couple of questions that will make this very interesting...

Will the lawsuits challenge the whole bill or just the offensive parts?

Is the Solicitor General required to defend every element of the bill in question with equal zeal?

99 posted on 03/27/2002 8:02:58 AM PST by gov_bean_ counter
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To: PeteF
In this particular instance; G-d bless the NRA! (Guess our President IS Charlton Heston, after all!) Someone made an excellent point on another thread recently...if just 25% of the EIGHTY MILLION GUN OWNERS in this country would join the NRA, you wouldn't hear ONE D*MN PEEP out of Congress about gun control legislation of ANY kind. If you have a relative/friend who owns a gun, and that person is NOT a member, ask them what the h*ll is wrong with them. (No flames, please...I know the NRA has blown it in the past, but there is INCREDIBLE strength in numbers. 20 MILLION NRA members? It boggles the mind...)



100 posted on 03/27/2002 8:03:31 AM PST by who knows what evil?
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