Posted on 03/23/2002 8:22:39 PM PST by cincinnati65
Which movie (past or present) embodies the most liberal message?
In the Sci-Fi category Waterworld was a total plot capitulation to the eco-weenies.
"Same Time Next Year" was liberal and it SUCKED SUCKED SUCKED!! I've despised Alan Alda ever since after seeing this swill.
And no mention of comrade Oliver Stone? The all-time champ for psychotic liberal lunacy HAS to be "JFK". Nothing else is close. Except for his "Salvador","Talk Radio", "Wall Street", "Nixon", "Born on the Fourth of July","Natural Born Killers". And his next movie is about Castro. Can't wait.
I haven't seen it, but the fawning reviews convinced me.
I thougth it was an okay movie, but yes, I noticed that it sounded several liberal themes......adultery's okay (we're just following our "star"), people change, change is "growth" is good, yada yada, real slop. But that was an overall atmosphere, and I didn't have the impression that it laid the markers down like some of the classics, like Seven Days in May or Spartacus, which someone else mentioned and which I think was ghost-written by the Communist Dalton Trumbo, though I'd need to check that. I've read recently that the Spartacus story has been a classic Communist roorback, altered to serve them as an agitprop vehicle -- hence its cooptation for a screenplay.
Oh, and major oversight on my part -- Easy Rider. Some of those soliloquies are pure New Left "Barbra Streisand". Nicholson's drivel about "this used to be a great country" -- like it isn't -- was pure Lefty ipecac.
I have not seen that movie, but a co-worker of mine did, and I would say is your typically non-politically involved or barely even cognizant (of politics) person. Twice I heard her discuss it, and each time her comment was that it really said a lot about the state of our health care system.
Sulla had a hot temper, also a sign of lead damage (one of the Valentinian emperors is supposed to be a classic case, with terrific mood swings like Hitler's, that actually interfered with his ability to discharge his office), and he died in 78 B.C. when he suffered a stroke while indulging an outburst of anger at a pedlar.
His basic problem, very interestingly for your choice of handles, was something well out of his hands, and which has rough parallels with today. The society he inherited was concentrating financial resources in fewer hands, and a great deal of wealth was being plowed back into real estate, transforming the countryside from a productive breadbasket teeming with yeoman farmers (smallholders typically worked a couple of acres for subsistence) to a more productive agribusiness landscape dedicated to cash crops and agricultural "factories" peopled with hired hands and villani (slaves), which is what the old farms gradually became -- the ones that survived, around which the other holdings were consolidated. By the time of the Severi, Italy and Sicily were very much given over to wide olive and wine plantations (latifundia; the Spanish also used the term in the New World to refer to land-grant plantations and their owners). All this concentration, beginning in the time of the Gracchi and already at crisis levels by the time Sulla came of age, was driving hordes of freeholders off the land: their sons into the legions, and the fathers into the cities, to become the Roman Mob. And they weren't about to solve their social problem, because the engine of their social stresses was a money machine in the hands of the upper classes of Roman society, whose maintenance of ancient power and precedence Sulla championed against the adventurism of dispossessed nobles acting with and through the Plebs and its mob politics.
The Soylent Corporation is supposed to be the malefic actor, but then it's just responding (in the film) to Malthusian population pressures: so who's the bad guy now? People who don't practice birth control? Hairton Cheston plays a policeman, whose High Noon-ish confrontation of the bad guy is softened by giving the cop an antiheroic personality. (He pilfers, he steals, he appropriates.) Interesting film, I would agree most of the values lean to the Left, but the cop as the last honest man, trying to Do Right, is pretty conservative, as is the rejection of dry-eyed utilitarianism and Mass Society models. Tough call. Any comments?
It was certainly self-serious, pretentious, and portentous enough......it certainly caught the spirit of liberalism, didn't it?
The ripple effect of undermining Biblical authority and its believers is evident today throughout society by our moral decline and socialist drift. ITW blindsided the Christian church in America which has yet to respond in any meaningful way on the scale ITW influences. The damage has been devestating and the church has yet to recover.
The movie has to be taken in historical context. It was, as I recall, about brave Russians fighting the Nazis during WWII; just as War and Peace was about the Russians fighting against Napoleon.
Probably because Gary Cooper was in it instead of him.
Kinda reminds ya' of the Liberals who shout down speakers whose opinions they don't like--and on college campuses! And all the relentless Liberal propaganda that barrages everyone constantly--over TV, in the movies, in the newspapers, everywhere--and reduces large segments of the population to mind-numbed robots.
Yeah, Triumph of the Will is a masterpiece of the Liberal agenda.
Never before has a movie galvanized liberals and anti American haters so tightly. To make it worse many conservatives also love it due to the respect for his athletic ability and love for sports.
Ali is lauded as the social and polical icon standing up to the Anti-American movement in the 60s. It gives the liberal media open season on loving what he did (forget the boxing), Ali actually calls US policy "baby killing and killing other poor people".
The clincher for me is Bryant Gumble (who never misses an opportunity to turn a benign situation into a racial one),,,,,,Bumble states, "When Ali lost, I cried. We all cried - those of us who were fighting for what was right."
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