Ask the imam: Why can t the Jews and Muslims live together in peace?

Islam Q&A ^

[McGavin999]

I wonder why the Muslims haven't figured out that maybe the reason they live in poverty and want, under the heavy hand of the dictator, is because they have distorted the word of God. They allow their Imans to blaspheme, why haven't they ever looked at that?

[janeliberty]

Moreover, if the Muslims agreed to live in peace with the Jews, who would be in charge? One of the basic principles of Islam is that Islam should prevail, not be prevailed over

One of my basic principles is NOT to be prevailed over by a religion that calls for death to anyone who doesn't embrace their warped philosophy. Yours is not a religion but a nefarious philosophy that is inculcated daily to ignorant peasants and controlled by the ruling elite.

If one is forced to live under the harsh and poverty ridden conditions Islam has created, I can understand the suicide bombers. Death is better than living in the muslim world!

[DallasMike]

Down through the centuries, Christians have been been guilty of much that you accuse the Muslim religion.

Those who were doing these things were not following the teachings of Christianity, though they sometimes called themselves Christian. However, the Mohammedans who oppress, kill, and destroy really are practicing the ideals of their religion.

[xJones]

?You will fight the Jews and will prevail over them, so that a rock will say, ?O Muslim! There is Jew behind me, kill him!??

No wonder the Arab-Israeli wars in 1948, 1967, 1972 have been so humiliating. The rocks aren't cooperating and the Arabs keep getting their butts handed to them.

[Aliska]

True, not now. But in the past most wars had a religious component. And most of those wars were between countries of predominately, if not exclusively, Christian beliefs.

Forgot to say that the OT is full of descriptions of God as jealous, angry, etc.

[Aliska]

I don't disagree with either of you.

Just don't like to play "My God is better than your God", as that will only insult those who don't share our beliefs.

[The Man]

You are guilty of a heinous false equivalency argument. Like the old liberal line that there was no real moral difference between the U.S.A. and the U.S.S.R.

[Publius6961]

You combines an ignorant savage with fanaticism and this is the only possble result.
If I read this correctly... there is no such thing as the United States, Canada, Great Brittain, Russia, Saudi Arabia, Venezuela...
Same as no Israel.

Makes total sense to me.
(/sarcasm)

[Publius6961]

In reading history, is there any place on Earth (outside of the USofA) where the Jew has prospered and assimilated?

Yeah... Most of Europe.
I personally met many professionals there who had been there for generations.
Better get a fresh supply of tinfoil.

[sheik yerbouty]

A "prophet" without honor, in his own country, or any other one as well.

[DallasMike]

Just don't like to play "My God is better than your God", as that will only insult those who don't share our beliefs.

I understand, and I'm not really disagreeing with you, either. However, the Islamic terrorists are working to kill us whether we insult them or not. They don't care a whit for peace, but only want to enslave and kill us.

[DallasMike]

Yeah... Most of Europe.

Some Jews have prospered there, but it's a stone cold fact that there are many less Jews in Europe today than there were 70 years ago. Probably better to break it down by country -- Jews have done okay in England, not so well in Poland, Russia, and Germany.

[Publius6961]

Finally we have learned to get along . . .sort of . . .look what it took . . . but we still have some maturing to do. The first lesson in maturity is not to arrogantly condemn another religion across the board.

Why not?
What you describe is pretty much the state of primitive barbaric society worldwide then. It was normal.
The rest of us abandoned primitive behavior centuries ago.
Why should we continue to tolerate it in any form today?

There is no excuse for it.
People today must be judged by what they do today not what they can whine about from 600 years ago.
Specially pathological lying cultures must be judged by what they do, not by what they say.

[Blake#1]

I thought of Europe, then Germany and Soviet treatment of the Jew came to mind. I still don't think Europe is the criteria on how to treat the Jew! So my question is still out there.

[VOA]

The Spanish inquasition and Cursades ended a very long time ago. Islam is still there,
right now this very minute slaughting or enslaving 100,000's in the name is of Allah.

Here is a book that might yield some "grist for the mill".
I haven't read it yet, but heard the author say that it addresses most of the charges
laid against Christendom in the past couple of millenia.

Christianity on Trial : Arguments Against Anti-Religious Bigotry
by Vincent Carroll, David Shiflett

Seeing how the book has been basically ignored in the mainstream book reviews, I tend to
think it must be pretty good!
(If it reached the conclusion the Christianity was worse than Islam...then it would
be the object of mainstream press praise.)

[Captain Shady]

Some Jews have prospered there, but it's a stone cold fact that there are many less Jews in Europe today than there were 70 years ago. Probably better to break it down by country -- Jews have done okay in England, not so well in Poland, Russia, and Germany.

To be fair ,Turkey accepted Jewish refugees after King Ferdinand of Spain ordered them out. One of Turkey's ambassadors also saved Jewish lives during the Holocaust of World War II.

[Optimist]

Jews prospered quite well in Western Europe until the Nazi occupation and Holocaust took their wealth along with many of their lives. Despite those setbacks, in just over 50 years, Jewish contributions to society in many fields is unparallelled when given the opportunity.
In addition to the US, look at what has occurred in Israel while the surrounding Arab nations have floundered.

[tictoc]

There is more, much more insanity on the Islam Q&A web site.

Yes, they are going after the Jews first, and will massacre every Israeli if we let them. But the rest of us will be next.

[Publius6961]

Some Jews have prospered there, but it's a stone cold fact that there are many less Jews in Europe today than there were 70 years ago. Probably better to break it down by country -- Jews have done okay in England, not so well in Poland, Russia, and Germany.

LOL
The classic confusion of causation with correlation.
70 years?

Doesn't that pretty much match the rise of Nazism and the holocaust?
Think there might be a connection? And is or is not Israel closer to Europe than the United States?
Israel was filled by refuges from the immediate continents.

The US is almost the same size as Europe and was untouched by the Nazi solution.
Try analyzing the issue between the 7th and 17th centuries.