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I find the first paragraph very disturbing. Are they really equating pedophiles with alcoholics? Seems as though they are somehow trying to make it acceptible by diminishing the act itself to a mere disorder.

Or am I just reading too much into it?

1 posted on 03/23/2002 7:41:56 AM PST by LoneGOPinCT
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Hey Doctor, how about considering castration and a lobotomy as treatment and quit wasting time on "discussions" with the perverts.
2 posted on 03/23/2002 7:45:57 AM PST by 3catsanadog
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The alcoholic used to be "the bum in the gutter"

He's still a bum in the gutter. Renaming a bum an alcoholic changed no facts in the bum's life. It just caused gooshing liberal sentiment and my wallet got lighter.

3 posted on 03/23/2002 7:48:15 AM PST by Uncle Miltie
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well, if they can get it to just a psychiatric 'disease' then maybe in 15 to 20 years there could be a movement to make it just an 'alternate lifestyle' -- just as homosexuality was a psychiatric disorder until the early 70s.
4 posted on 03/23/2002 7:48:33 AM PST by kpp_kpp
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Actually, I'd look at it the same way. This would also include homosexuality. One does not put an alcoholic in a bar and say: 'Drink up. Alcoholism is part of who you are. No one should criticise that-in fact, you should celebrate it!'.

It seems that they are acknowledging that paedophilia is a disorder that cannot be cured. About time, I say.

5 posted on 03/23/2002 7:49:49 AM PST by Tench_Coxe
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To: LoneGOPinCT;*SASU
I don't think you're reading too much into it. These folks are dangerous.


6 posted on 03/23/2002 7:50:37 AM PST by Khepera
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sicko's
8 posted on 03/23/2002 7:53:36 AM PST by GeronL
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Dr. Fred Berlin, a major figure in research and treatment of sexual disorders, hopes that pedophilia will someday be viewed in much the same way as alcoholism - as a psychiatric illness, not simply as a moral failing.

It's good for business. Wait until it's classified under the ADA so that they can get Federal funding, affirmative action... That way they can put treating rapists at large on your insurance. The rapists prey on children. The Doctors treat the both the poor babies and their victims forever. The kids grow up to be rapists...

What a scam. This creep is the real danger to society.

9 posted on 03/23/2002 7:55:13 AM PST by Carry_Okie
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Bump for BUMPS!
10 posted on 03/23/2002 7:55:24 AM PST by LoneGOPinCT
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Perhaps. There is some support for your concern in this:

He said pedophilia and ephebophilia are distinct

Divide and conquer? There is a significant push in the UK to lower the legal age for sex with a minor.

I found this to be interesting:

Despite the claims of an earlier generation of therapists, neither pedophilia nor any of the other paraphilias are curable. "This is a chronic medical condition you can treat and contain," Kafka said. The degree of success is related to the degree to which a given patient is fixated on his sexual urge toward children, he said. Many pedophiles also have adult partners, and these people seem to do better with treatment. Kafka said patients who have never had normal social or sex lives are harder to treat.

How can Catholic bishops reassign a priest who has been caught looking at kiddie porn? This paragraph suggests pedo-priests would be especially difficult to reform.

11 posted on 03/23/2002 7:55:28 AM PST by kidd
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nwo/nbo bump
12 posted on 03/23/2002 7:56:56 AM PST by wafflehouse
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The study of impulses and motivations should always proceed, whether you like the anticipated results or not.
14 posted on 03/23/2002 7:58:46 AM PST by jlogajan
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Dr. Fred Berlin was helpful in getting a prominent Rabbi in south Florida who molested children only six and a half years in prison instead of the 60 years the prosecutors first wanted.

Dr. Fred Berlin, a psychiatric expert in sexual disorders, testified Levy's attraction to teenagers was a preoccupation he couldn't control. An obsessed Levy -- who spent up to five hours a night on the Internet -- knew what he was doing was wrong, but it was as if he had a gun to his head, said Berlin, founder of Johns Hopkins University's sexual disorder clinic, in Baltimore.

"This was a man who was struggling and losing the battle, and not someone who just didn't give a darn," Berlin said. "This was the culmination of a long history of being a sexually troubled, repressed and confused man."

Full Sun Sentinel article: Rabbi's Sex Offences


15 posted on 03/23/2002 7:59:11 AM PST by LarryLied
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Perhaps they plan to cure pedophilia the same way they cured homosexuality. Just declare that it is a normal expression of human sexuality.

That way all of the stigma and negative feelings associated with it can be removed.

17 posted on 03/23/2002 8:01:00 AM PST by Calculus_of_Consent
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So according to this poor excuse for a doctor, every lawbreaker has a ligitimate alibi for his actions. Everything is a treatable illness. Maybe he ought to treat a few of the Taliban and see if he can come up with a better cure than our military! My life would not be worth living without my children or grandchildren so anyone who messes with them might find their own lives shortened or parts of their anatomy, whichever I can get to fastest!
19 posted on 03/23/2002 8:04:51 AM PST by Jaidyn
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Well I think any researcher should HAVE to have HIS children and Grandchildren participate in the study..(just to make sure it is valid you understand!!)

pssssss do you think they would still want to do the study???

20 posted on 03/23/2002 8:05:09 AM PST by RnMomof7
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Will this be the same kind of "research" that found homosexuality to be just an alternate lifestyle instead of the mental illness it was considered for so many years? Will this be the same kind of "research" that found AIDS spreading into the heterosexual community only because the statistics were rigged? Will this be the same kind of "research" that shows 13 children a day are killed by guns, but only if you define "children" as anyone up to 24 years old?

Glad these people didn't "research" penicillin or smallpox vaccine. We'd all be dead by now.

24 posted on 03/23/2002 8:29:44 AM PST by IronJack
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Sex offenses against young (white) boys will probably become acceptable than those against girls.
26 posted on 03/23/2002 8:30:36 AM PST by Mike Darancette
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Only two cures for Pedophilia. One is to put a bullet into the pedophile, the other is to lock them away in prison for life.

Sickos are sickos, and the only reason they are trying to make this acceptable is that there are people either in prominent status or in government who is afflicted with the above mentioned malady. Watch and see what happens. If this flies, in 10 years, politicians and every other kind of scumbag will be the new so called victims here. Round them up and burn them alive I say. All pedophiles are incurable, and deserve to be burned alive, as a message that to do such a thing is to be repaid with a horrible death.

28 posted on 03/23/2002 8:36:16 AM PST by MadRobotArtist
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No, you are right Pedophilles will be the next "rights" movement. It will start in a couple of decades. I remember reading a book by a leader in the Ex-Gay movement. (I believe it was Joe Dallas.) He described how once you start lowering the standards of morality you can't stop. He described how if it's ok for consenting adults to do it. Then why not consenting adults of the same sex. And if it ok for consenting adults, then why not consenting minors(teenagers). Soon it will be consenting people period. I also read how the Gay movement when from a let us live our lives in peace to the how dare you not agree with me. I wish I could remember the name of that book, perhaps someone knows????
30 posted on 03/23/2002 8:36:49 AM PST by Sci Fi Guy
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"There is virtually no place for people who are struggling with their urges to go."

Excuse me!!--there are plenty of places that these people can go if they are truly trying to fight urges that they apparently (according to this article) recognize as aberant.

31 posted on 03/23/2002 8:58:10 AM PST by scholar
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