Posted on 03/23/2002 7:40:07 AM PST by InvisibleChurch
Though the U.S. government clings to the notion that Timothy McVeigh, acting alone, set off the horrendous explosion on April 19, 1995, that pancaked the nine-story Oklahoma City federal building, a former high-ranking CIA official says there's solid evidence to indicate he worked with an Iraqi John Doe No. 2.
Larry Johnson, former CIA officer and deputy director of the State Department's Office of Counterterrorism, told a network news show this week the FBI had failed to properly investigate significant eyewitness accounts of McVeigh meeting with the man believed to be a former Iraqi soldier.
Johnson made those comments on The Big Story with John Gibson, a Fox news program airing nightly at 5 p.m., which delved into an extensive dossier on the case compiled by former Oklahoma TV reporter Jayna Davis. The program aired just days after a lawsuit filed by the watchdog organization Judicial Watch that alleges Iraqi involvement in the Oklahoma City bombing and seeks compensation for victims from frozen Iraqi assets.
Davis, who reported from Ground Zero in Oklahoma City for NBC-affiliate KFOR, broadcast a series suggesting a possible accomplice to the bombing who had been seen with McVeigh on the days leading up to and the day of the bombing. Gibson unabashedly reported Davis' work to a national TV audience on three consecutive days this week.
On Monday, Gibson relayed that Davis' evidence is based "on the simple proposition that Tim McVeigh's John Doe 2 was an Iraqi, a former Iraqi soldier from the Gulf War, paroled into the U.S. under a claim of political asylum, known to be in Oklahoma City as of November of '94 almost a year before the Murrah bombing, spotted with McVeigh by multiple witnesses, and who in recent years was working at (Boston) Logan airport," where the Sept. 11 hijackings originated.
On Tuesday, Gibson posed the question to Johnson about a possible link between Iraq and Oklahoma City.
"I think this woman (Davis) has done a remarkable job of finding a link that was overlooked," Johnson said. Johnson also commented on a Justice Department review of the thousands of documents that resurfaced or were destroyed, delaying McVeigh's execution for a month.
"The FBI . . ., they still have not turned over all of the documents to the defense teams that came out of Oklahoma," he said. "In particular, the information that links, shows possible links to Middle Eastern subjects."
KFOR's reports distorted the face of one of those suspects and did not name him. However, on his own volition, a former Iraqi soldier who claims he surrendered to the U.S. in the Gulf War and who was brought to the United States from a refugee camp in Saudi Arabia, stepped forward and identified himself to two other Oklahoma City TV stations and The Associated Press as the man that KFOR had implicated as John Doe No. 2.
Hussain Hashem Alhussaini sued KFOR and Davis for defamation, saying the reports falsely identified him as John Doe No. 2. But a U.S. District Court disagreed. In ruling for KFOR, U.S. District Judge Timothy Leonard found in November 1999 that the station had taken extraordinary measures to hide Alhussaini's identity.
Leonard added that KFOR's reports were either "based on fact or a matter of opinion," and not negligence or reckless disregard for the truth. Alhussaini, who went to work at Boston's Logan International Airport after leaving Oklahoma City, continues to deny any involvement in the bombing. Former CIA Agent Johnson is unconvinced.
"I compared it to all the human intelligence I've looked at," he said. "And comparing it to classified material, this is not from just one witness, this is not from two witnesses; you're talking 23 people, you're talking at least 10 people who put Tim McVeigh with Hussain Alhussaini before the Oklahoma City bombing.
"Two people who identified Hussain Alhussaini and Tim McVeigh in a bar on April 15; three people who identified Hussain Alhussaini running from the federal building early in the morning at 5:30 as if he is practicing timing himself. You have two witnesses that put Tim McVeigh with Hussain Alhussaini in the Ryder truck; you have one witness inside the Murrah Building who sees Hussain Alhussaini eating out of the truck . . .
"The point is the FBI has not thoroughly, fully investigated this. It is an outrage. I went along for many years thinking they have covered the bases. They have not, John."
You can't say Davis didn't try. She tried to give the witness statements to the FBI in the fall of '97, but it wouldn't take them.
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I had ideas that there were connections yet nobody is printing them in the mainstream media. It smacks of tinfoil, and therefore couldn't be credible. Of course we had Monicagate in lieu of Chinagate, and the whole redirect attention seems to work on the American Sheeple.
Just when I thought I was alone in the world with my strange ideas of conspiracy, I get all of my answers from a Freeper. Thanks TLI, as now I am completely disillusioned. Before it was just cynicism. Now, I'm f-ing mad.
Time to move to Greenland.
Yup! When OKC happened, as we were watching it on TV, I told a woman I work with that "THEY DID IT THEMSELVES! Meaning the powers that be.
Clinton came right out and said that OKC rejuvenated his presidency -- before that he had been insisting that he was "relevant."
Someone here on FR said that if only one plane had gone in to the WTC, we would still be being told that it was an accident. I believe that.
Carolyn
Lets just take a look.
1. Who were the stockbrokers that profited from the WTC insider trading?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/530690/posts
Germans Tie Terror Groups to Pre-attack Stock Trading
Washington Post & Journal Gazette ---- LINK HERE | August 23, 2001 | William Drozdiak
Posted on 9/23/01 3:53 PM Central by t-shirt
Germans tie terror groups to pre-attack stock trading
By William Drozdiak
Washington Post
Sugust 23, 2001
BRUSSELS - The president of Germany's central bank said Saturday there was mounting evidence that people connected to
the attacks in New York and Washington sought to profit from the tragedy by engaging in "terrorism insider trading" on
European stock and commodity markets.
Ernst Welteke, head of the Bundesbank, said a preliminary review by German regulators.....there were highly suspicious sales
of shares in airlines and insurance companies, along with major trades in gold and oil markets, before Sept. 11 that suggest
they were conducted with advance knowledge of the attacks.
2. Where did the initial orgazation meetings occur to go after the Talaban?
BTW, this meeting was NOT about "humanitarian aid." See highlighted paragraph.
Bush, UN Secretary General Discuss Aid to Afghanistan
Aid is available, Bush says, but delivery is difficult
Getting humanitarian aid to the needy in Afghanistan was the focus of a White House meeting
November 28 between President Bush and United Nations Secretary General Kofi Annan, that
included U.S. and U.N. officials.
"Around the table today are people who are responsible to making sure, as best as they possibly
can, that food is delivered, and medicine is delivered, and clothing is delivered to innocent,
hurting people of Afghanistan," Bush told reporters.
"The degree of difficulty is high," he said. "There's no question we've got a large task ahead of
ourselves. We've got ample money, and the United States government has been a major
contributor of that money. We've got the food. The fundamental question is, in an environment
that is not very secure, how do we get the food to the people. And that's what we're working
on. And I'm convinced that we can do a very good job of meeting that objective."
Secretary General Annan said "we are now, with the help of the U.S. and other donors, able to
get in as much food as we think we will need. But because of the insecurity, we have difficulties
reaching the needy and the people, and we are working on that. And I hope the situation will
clarify in the not-too-distant future to allow us to reach all those in need."
Annan urged the Afghan groups now meeting in Bonn, Germany to form "an effective Afghan
government that is cohesive, that is stable, that will work with the donor community to ensure
that the resources that are being applied to rehabilitation and reconstruction are used
effectively."
3. Where did the first foreign arrests of WTC terrorists occur? How were these folks found so quickly? Check the date...
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/521849/posts
Two Men arrested in Hamburg, Germany
Channel 2 (ABC) Atlanta | 9-13 | Me
Posted on 9/13/01 4:50 AM Central by GuillermoX
Channel Two (ABC affiliate) reports that two men were arrested in Hamburg, Germany in relation to the attack.
They reported that they got confessions from the arrested and that those confessions were "interesting",
4. Who wants us to NOT pursue action against Iraq?
Germany and France warn Bush on Iraq
Electronic Telegraph | (Filed: 19/02/2002) | By Toby Helm in Berlin and Ben Fenton in Washington
Posted on 2/18/02 10:18 PM Central by Lessismore
THE transatlantic rift deepened yesterday when Germany joined France in opposing military strikes against
Iraq as part of a new front in the war on terrorism.
President Bush said he was keeping "all options on the table" to deal with Baghdad, but Chancellor Gerhard Schroder's
government said it would not back American "adventures" unless there was proof that Saddam Hussein's regime was directly
linked to the September 11 attacks.
Where did Strassmeir escape to?
"Subsequently, when Strassmeir became the subject of intense
media and defense scrutiny, his attorney, Kirk Lyons, a well-known North
Carolina lawyer whose principal clients are members of the most violent and
extreme wing of American politics, openly boasted that he had "spirited"
Strassmeir out of the country through Texas, Mexico and France,"
Where was money comming from to support ELOHIM CITY?
" The Iraqi government has given Dennis Mahon thousands of dollars over the
past six years. Mahon has admitted to receiving money from Iraq
approximately once a month "
"The money started arriving in 1991 after Mahon started holding
rallies protesting the Persian Gulf War. Mahon is a close friend of Andreas
Strassmeir, the ex-head of security at Elohim City and Mahon has lived at
Elohim City."
Germany, Germany, Germany, Germany/France). What's up with that?
Looks like this has been going on for a looooooong time.
There is more I am sure. Anyone got anything else?
I've been mad for so long I have gotten AND cured the ulcers!
Not time to move to Greenland (Norway). Time to BLOGAAT!
I just made an interesting observation, the OKC bombing, the WTC bombing, Right out of the Nazi Playbook. Remember the Reichstag fire???? Remember what happened? Interesting how Democrats and Republicans are acting just like the Nazi's of yore by becoming the victims in the eyes of the people, as opposed to being the prime suspects in a crime against America.
I wonder who the new Fuhrer is going to be? Tom Daschle? Dick Gephardt? Or will it be the beast herself, Hillary? You see there are so many unanswered questions. What is the primary goal of the new nazi party? Why do I get the impression that our government was infiltrated after WW2? Oh wait, I KNOW it was. Especially since Russia had the same instigators in their country that caused the revolution that brought us communism. Karl Marx should have been assassinated before he, and Engles wrote that book. I think that the only way to be free of the German threat, and our socialist enemies, is to recall all of our troops, and start marching them into Germany, as well as to round up our governmental officials who are socialist sympathizers.
Someday we will have the country we were originally. However it's going to take people talking about this publicly instead of just online, as well as it needs to be shouted over the airwaves, in order to dispell the lies and treachery of so many years of brainwashing.
Dang! . . . Ya should have put the entire article in there!
Like I said, looks like this is been going on a long time. Reads like the same old game. Fire up the American population to be in favor of something outside the US (war) that a few folks INSIDE the US want (war profits).
I'm only guessing now but the Germany connection does seem to come from the roots of the CIA.
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