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For Catholics: What shall we do...
23 March A.D. 2002 | father_elijah

Posted on 03/23/2002 5:34:00 AM PST by father_elijah

SHALL WE GATHER AT THE RIVER?

We Catholic Americans are at a crossroads. Our Lord Jesus Christ who is the Light of the World is exposing all those who wound his sacred Body by abusing children and youth. Our Lord is also exposing rot and disease within the structures and leadership of the Church from within provinces of religious orders, Catholic universities, and diocesan chanceries.

It is time to clean house. Not only do the pederasts, sex abusers, and homosexuals need to be removed from leadership and the ranks of the ordained, but also the Church needs to excommunicate all Catholic politicians in the United States of America whose votes continue the holocaust of abortion.

PREPARATION
In order to serve Christ and his poor Church in this time of crisis, each of us are called to avail ourselves of the sacraments that we may trample the devil under our feet. Let each of us 1) make a good confession; 2) receive the Eucharist on the Feast of Divine Mercy and receive Christ’s promises to St. Faustina of mercy and pardon; 3) engage in works of mercy; and, 4) encourage others to do the same.


We lead by prayer, and we are made strong by Christ’s self-offering of his Body and Blood, Soul and Divinity in the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass. We have a great weapon for fighting evil in the rosary. We do not turn to prayer as a last resort, but we turn to prayer as the beginning, center, and end of all that we strive to do for Our Lord Jesus Christ. We engage in prayer for the Church knowing that when we pray we are not alone in prayer or in action. Our Lord, Our Lady, St. Joseph, and the whole communion of saints join with us in interceding for the Church.

We who long for the cleansing of the Church from these grave evils have the means of prayer through which we can grow in holiness even as we pray for the Church to be cleansed of evil and made holy as Christ is holy. Let us avail ourseves of these gifts of prayer:

The Daily Mass or a daily Act of Spiritual Communion
Perpetual Eucharistic Adoration
Benediction and Adoration
The Holy Rosary
The Chaplet of Divine Mercy
The Litanies
The Liturgy of the Hours
Other Chaplets and Devotions

Let every action we undertake be covered in prayer and overshadowed by the Holy Spirit so that only God’s will is desired and achieved through our efforts.

ACTION
For love of the Lord Jesus Christ, we are called to action against evil. Let each faithful Catholic offer themselves at Mass or at home to be the beginning point of the Church’s cleansing and renewal. Ask the Lord’s blessing that we may each speak the truth in love and walk in the Holy Spirit.

There are a variety of actions that one can undertake to be part of the solution. The following are suggestions that have been made on various internet discussion lists.

*Show up at your parish and pray at 3pm every day
*Show up at your diocesan Chancery and pray
*Show up at the nearest Chancery on the Monday after Easter
at 12 noon and pray the Rosary for the Cleansing of the Priesthood

*Write, telephone, and e-mail your bishops and priests and express your horror over the sexual scandals and tell them you expect full disclosure and immediate action.
*Write to the Holy Father -- write in Polish if you can -- and beg him to intervene and clean up the Church in the United States. Be sure to copy your bishop and pastor.

The following are some actions you may consider asking of the Holy Father(and recommending to your bishop):

1. Ask the Holy Father to lead the Church in a worldwide Day of Penance for the sexual sins of the Church’s leadership;
2. Ask the Holy Father to declare that homosexuals may not receive Holy Orders;
3. Ask the Holy Father to remove Cardinals, bishops, priests, and deacons who have covered up cases of sexual abuse.
4. Ask the Holy Father to give the Church in the USA new Cardinals especially elevating Archbishop Chaput of Denver
5. Ask the Holy Father to shut down religious orders or provinces of religious orders (like the California province of the Society of Jesus) that are a scandal in themselves.
6. Ask the Holy Father to give Cardinal Law, Cardinal Egan, and Cardinal Mahony new jobs at the Vatican.
7. Ask the Holy Father to suspend the US National Conference of Catholic Bishops and to appoint either a triumvirate to clean house or an Inquisitor General to root out evil and liberate the Church in the USA from error and crime.
8. Ask the Holy Father to restore the prayer “St. Michael the Archangel” to the close of every Mass.
9. Ask the Holy Father to extend the faculty to every priest in the Church to celebrate Mass according to the 1962 Missal.
10. Ask the Holy Father to excommunicate Catholic politicians who support the holocaust of abortion.
11. Ask the Holy Father to give the Cardinal’s red hat to Archbishop Chaput, Bishop Bruskewitz, Fr. Benedict Groeschel, Fr. Joseph Fessio, S.J.
12. Ask the Holy Father to disassociate the Church from those once Catholic universitiies and colleges that no longer affirm the magisterium of the Church or loyalty to the Pope.
13. Ask the Holy Father to make Fr. Benedict Groeschel the next Archbishop of New York.


Some will find these ideas too presumptuous, but it is clear that the Holy Father and the leadership of the Church in the USA need to hear from the rank and file faithful.

Finally, be sure to pray for the Pope, and write to the Holy Father a letter of encouragement. Assure him of your prayers for his intentions and for him personally. Also, write letters of encouragement to any deacon, priest, or bishop whom you know to be defenders of the faith and devoted to Our Lord Jesus Christ. Our good and faithful priests need to know that they are loved and cherished.

Jesus, King of the nations, hear us.
Christ, graciously hear us.
Our Lady of Guadalupe, pray for us.
Good Saint Joseph, pray for us.
St. Elizabeth Ann Seton, pray for us.


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To: Thorn11cav
The questions and answers and the debate you seek is better served on the Neverending Story thread. Take it there. This is a thread for Catholics to debate how best to help their church at a difficult time. I must comment on how charitably our Protestant friends are behaving towards us at a difficult time. This would be an easy time to take cheap pot shots; largely, that has not happened. V's wife.
181 posted on 03/23/2002 10:40:41 AM PST by ventana
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To: Thorn11cav
After all, this is the form your "question" took, just to refresh your memory:

"I'm afraid I have a different Jesus Christ, so I'm not really interested in meeting another.

I would however ask, aside from the Vatican propaganda, could I get an answer to my question....?

I'm not in need of a "new" Jesus, just and understanding on why we are so far appart in doctrine when our GOD and saviour share the same name.

Is it different Bibles ? Is it that the Divine Messages from the Pope, changes with each Pope ? Your doctrine is so contridictory from my biblical beliefs based on the KJV of the Bible, that I cannot find a "middle ground".

I am asking to understand and see if the possibilty even exists."

I guess, ThornIIcav, that the possibility doesn't exist. You live in a parallel universe, with a different God by the same name.

182 posted on 03/23/2002 10:44:09 AM PST by Judith Anne
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To: Salvation
Click on Canada or US or wherever you live and then the specific area of the US for grief recovery weekends and other programs near you.

LOL

I'm sure you mean well but such a trivialization is of no interest to me.

Regards.

183 posted on 03/23/2002 10:44:49 AM PST by The Irishman
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To: Thorn11cav
I mean, "Vatican propaganda"--where do you get off? Name your church, and we'll discuss its propaganda.
184 posted on 03/23/2002 10:46:27 AM PST by Judith Anne
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To: father_elijah
Hurray! To the battle!

I know what I'm going to do, pick up my rosary and get to work!

Perhaps we are close to the "new springtime" of the Church that the Holy Father talks about.

Viva Papa!

185 posted on 03/23/2002 10:47:07 AM PST by Cap'n Crunch
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To: Judith Anne
RE: your post #75: (This is me, taking my place next to Judith Anne, knowing all the possibilities, and willing to die or live for my Church...)
187 posted on 03/23/2002 10:48:37 AM PST by redhead
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To: redhead
Wow! Nice to see you--I had Australorps too, and they are awesome. I also love the Dominiques, but hereabouts we call them Domineckers. God bless the Church, and us too! ;-D
189 posted on 03/23/2002 10:53:52 AM PST by Judith Anne
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To: Judith Anne
The priestly pedophiles are not hetero-sexual. They are homosexuals who are taking advantage of the most readily available prey. A married priesthood would eliminate the temptation for closeted homosexuals to hide out behind a clerical collar.
190 posted on 03/23/2002 10:55:29 AM PST by Eva
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To: Thorn11cav
Your contempt for anyone or anything Catholic has been duly noted.

One question, why the false pose earlier of a seeker of truth and reconciliation?

191 posted on 03/23/2002 10:55:35 AM PST by The Irishman
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To: Thorn11cav
"Please don't waste any Catholic prayers on me...if I want to talk the Almighty, I have only to speak in the name of Jesus, and he hears. My life, is a living testiment to the love of GOD, thru Jesus... to me."

I wouldn't normally, but what the heck! Here goes:

Beloved Yahweh, Author of Life and Savior of all creation, please bless this knucklehead ThornIIcav and grant him, blind as he is, the gift of spiritual sight and healing. Please keep him very very close to You, and grant him a long life with plenty of opportunity to grow in spirit and in truth. And at the end of that long life, Dear Savior, I beg You take him home to You in peace and assurance of eternal life in You. I ask this in the name of Jesus Christ my Redeemer, in accordance with His teaching. Amen.

192 posted on 03/23/2002 11:01:38 AM PST by Judith Anne
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To: Eva
Hmmm...so you would make marriage a requirement? But the married men who sexually abused their children...would it eliminate them? My point--WE cannot eliminate evil. God can, and we can help.
194 posted on 03/23/2002 11:03:46 AM PST by Judith Anne
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To: Lemonhead
All conservatives better wake up to what is at stake here and resist the temptation to kick a competing faith when it is down. The Catholic Church is the only institution with a world wide reach which is standing up to the UN, thousands of secular humanist NGOs, George Soros, Maurice Strong and other socialist groups and individuals.

Had it not been for your Pope acting in concert with Ronald Reagan and Margaret Thatcher, the Soviet Union might still exist today.

Good can arise from evil if we let it. Everyone should support the Catholic Church in its hour of need.

195 posted on 03/23/2002 11:05:40 AM PST by LarryLied
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To: Eva
The priestly pedophiles.

Acutally, as was discussed on a thread yesterday, they are not actually pedophiles. The definition of pedophilia is sexual attraction to children under the age of puberty. The vast majority of the victims were teenage boys to my knowledge. This is a homosexual depravity, not pedophilia. It is reasonable to assume that other the sex partners of these priests were homosexuals above the age of 18 but we are not likely to hear about them.

Regards.

196 posted on 03/23/2002 11:07:32 AM PST by The Irishman
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To: Judith Anne
I have always thought that homosexuals were attracted to the priesthood because they really did not want to be gay, that they thought that the church would give them the strength not to act on their desires. Maybe it works for some, but the option to marry would, at least, remove the veil that the gay priests are hiding behind.
197 posted on 03/23/2002 11:08:05 AM PST by Eva
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To: Salvation
Don't forget the "Journey Home" network headed by Marcus Grodi, a "Revert." He has a wonderful show on EWTN that focuses on the Journey Home for many new and returning Catholics, in which they discuss the conversion (or "reversion", in the case of lapsed Catholics who have returned to the Faith) process.
198 posted on 03/23/2002 11:12:17 AM PST by redhead
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To: Eva
I see your point, Eva, but I don't believe it would work the way you think it would, for the reasons I stated. Thank you for your thoughts.
199 posted on 03/23/2002 11:12:48 AM PST by Judith Anne
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To: Conservative til I die;timestax;Ex-Wretch
LOL.

You guys are something else!
;-)))

200 posted on 03/23/2002 11:23:18 AM PST by heyheyhey
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