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***FReepers: Urge President Bush to VETO Shays-Meehan CFR Bill! !***
Sixty Second Activist ^
| March 22, 2002
| Sixty Second Activist
Posted on 03/22/2002 3:41:02 PM PST by MeekOneGOP
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To: irish_lad
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The law is probably unconstitutional and can be handled by the courts without making W the bad guy." 1). The Law is a flaming violation of the Constitution.
2). Everyone knows it. Just look at the current fast track fund raising that has been going on to get all the soft cash they can pocket before 11/6.
If these politicans really cared about CFR it would be retroactive, just like Clinton retroactively taxed Americans in 1993.
In the meantime, most of these fat cats are crossing their sticky greasy fingers that the man with the classy gold stripes on his black robe will throw CFR out.
3). Why would our distinquished President desire to allow his good reputation and name to be put on unconstitutional legislation?
This is not a very wise legacy making thing to do.
Moreover, it is a violation of his sacred oath of office. I hope he's not that interested in becoming chummy with a bunch of looney pinkoheads.
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posted on
03/24/2002 7:47:24 AM PST
by
harpo11
To: irish_lad
"Why in the hell would you want Bush to veto this crummy legislation?"Because this is a Congressional election year. It'll take too long for SCOTUS to shred it. November's not that far off.
To: Arleigh
Uh, maybe because it is UNCONSTITUTIONAL and Jorge took an oath to uphold and defend the Constitution? No, you and I THINK it is unconstitutional. So until the courts decide, you do what you have to do. Look, I agree with many of the comments regarding this legislation; however, it is not worth risking the loss of the White House to Gore, Daschle, or Hitlery. The fact is that in politics, you must choose where to take a stand, and in my humble opinion, this is not it. Will this bill change your life? Probably not. Would a Democrat in the White House change your life? Probably so. The downside of a veto is more onerous than the signing this crummy bill.
To: harpo11
3). Why would our distinquished President desire to allow his good reputation and name to be put on unconstitutional legislation? This is not a very wise legacy making thing to do. Moreover, it is a violation of his sacred oath of office. AGREED....
To: davidosborne
Done! (#474)
To: Victoria Delsoul;all
Bush has not said whether he would sign the measure. But he has told fellow Republicans not to count on him to veto it.
While opponents of the new measure contend it would violate constitutional guarantees of freedom of speech, backers argue the legislation would help curb big donors from effectively buying access to the halls of power.
Sen. Mitch McConnell, a Kentucky Republican and chief congressional foe of the bill, joined Lott on Tuesday in calling for a prompt vote on passage.
Noting he had argued for years such legislation would infringe on freedom of speech, McConnell said, "It is clear that position is not going to prevail."
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20020319/pl_nm/politics_finance_dc_63
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posted on
03/24/2002 9:54:45 AM PST
by
TLBSHOW
To: TLBSHOW
I'd like to see GW veto this bill but I understand that he's going to sign it. I also understand that the Supreme Court will reject it, or strike down most of its provisions. So perhaps this is a way to definitely kill this unconstitutional bill.
To: MeeknMing
In the mid-70's Campaign Finance Reform was passed mainly as a result of this man
. The man who defiantly stated "I am not a crook". Move forward to present time and Campaign Finance Reform was passed again mainly as a result of these two democrats "I did not have sex..." Clinton and his earth-toned sidekick, Algore. Both have proudly displayed frequently very dubious character traits and beyond the pale skills in telling the truth and upholding the rule of law.
. Even President Bush as you can see from his telling glare on his glorious Inauguration Day knew that these footloose and fancy free miscreants left more than one fuming mess for him to clean up. It was because of Contempt of Court Clinton and Too Much Slurping Ice Tea AlGore's unlawful campaign fundraising schemes they cooked up in order to protect and preserve their own self-interests, that is keeping their large sorry butts elected. As you may already know CFR legislation is not passed because of anything President George W. Bush, you, me or us did. No, it was because of what Bill Clinton and Algore did. So, in answer to how to address Clinton/Gore's illegal fundraising spree, 60 Senators and 200 plus House Representatives rather than punishing the quilty and holding them accountable found it far more pleasurable to muzzle the American Citizens from participating in the election process. Well, it sure seems like another cooked up scheme to hoodwink the public into thinking that finally, at last, no more will politicians break the law when it comes to financing their campaigns for election and/or re-election while getting big money out of the system. Yeah righto! Now what is very interesting to note, these same Senators and Representatives have by virtue of signing their name to this piece of legislative farce are in effect serving their own self-interests. And that stinks. Let's face it, our President said on January 20, 2001 as he spoke to us after swearing his sacred oath of office to defend, preserve, protect our Constitution that he called upon us to be "citizens, not spectators; responsible citizens". CFR Legislation screws us out of being active participants in the election process. And we are what it is supposed to be all about. We elect the politicians to serve us, not for them to selfishly serve themselves. And, our Constitution protects our God given inalienable rights to peacefully redress our grievances to government officials if they should say, do, or pass laws that are abhorently opposed to our Liberty. Buying Ads during an election cycle is one of the most peaceful means of redressing our government servants and they don't like it, hence, the passage of CFR. Please call President Bush and ask him to stand firmly against CFR. VETO--line by line! CFR has no place in our Representative Republic and Constitution. Do not be Shut-Out and Up! Call Now.
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posted on
03/24/2002 2:26:46 PM PST
by
harpo11
To: E.G.C.
You are wasting your time. 10 million requests wouldn't change his mind. He is going to sign it for political reasons because he is a politician. I'm sick of Republicans (and I am one) and even sicker of Democrats!
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posted on
03/24/2002 5:24:09 PM PST
by
smolensk
To: harpo11; ALL
Please call President Bush and ask him to stand firmly against CFR. VETO--line by line! CFR has no place in our Representative Republic and Constitution. Do not be Shut-Out and Up! Call Now.
That picture of Bush glaring at clintoon I caption "If looks could kill!" The old image I was using is corrupted. Hope ya don't mind if I "borrow" yours? :O)
You are right. I have e-mail President Bush and I have signed the petition.
I will e-mail President Bush daily to tell him:
VETO Shays-Meehan CFR on the grounds it is
UNCONSTITUTIONAL regarding Free Speech violations!
Anyone want to join me in this big push???
To: anniegetyourgun
BTTT! For Monday perusers.
To: Salvation
Sent another e-mail today!
To: MeeknMing
I would never mind you using any picture. The one of the President glaring at those the reprobates is absolutely beautiful. One picture worth 1000 words.
It's all because of those two men that President Bush has to deal with CFR in the first place. If I were Bush and as determined as he appears to be to sign this trash, I'd make CFR retroactive and really screw the DNC's high and mighty fund raising activities now just to hear them bray and squeal and feel our pain, as Bill Clinton always was uttering.
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posted on
03/26/2002 6:29:03 AM PST
by
harpo11
To: harpo11
Thanks.
I'm afraid you're right about him signing it. I figure he will and have for a while. I just wish he wouldn't. I had one person send me this via my mail when I said that Bush should veto it on constitutional grounds:
I wish it was that simple but constitutionally it is not! There is only one political body that can rule on the constitutionality of a bill and that is the Courts. What if clinton had vetoed a bill that we all like and said it was unconstitutional even if we thought it was? This place would be in a uproar. I just don't want any President deciding what is constitutional and what is not. He absolutely cannot hand the RATS this campaign issue to beat us over the heads with this fall in our campaign to Take Back the Senate. The press and McCain would be all over the place trashing the President. Americans for the most part don't care about this bill but if he vetoes they will because the press will make it very much of an issue!
That is just my opinion, but I am not willing to take the risk of a veto that could be overriden. That would be disaster for us in the Fall. We are not going to get any Supreme Court justices through this Senate so we had better hope the conservatives all stay healthy. And ditto our Court of Appeals vacancies.
Sigh.............
To: harpo11
To: MeeknMing
The last bump! It's like saving the last dance for someone special! Oh well, I sure did appreciate reading all of the wonderful comments on this timely thread and the e-mail you received from a friend, post #74.
I'm thinking it appears our President is swinging his lasso out wide and far as he corrals and reins in those vicious nay-braying democrats as he topples like dominoes each of their slimey attempts to ruin, belittle and smear President Bush's tenure.
That's what I would call a little Texas boot kickin'. Better the democrats eat republican dust than the other way around. Unfortunately, though as a proud conservative supporter of our President and I genuinely like him, it seems he had to kick a lot of dust our way too, and as I wipe it off my face in dismay, I guess that is the sour reality of politics.
See you at the next dance.
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posted on
03/27/2002 4:04:31 PM PST
by
harpo11
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