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To: SunStar
And to me, this is where the brillance of this bill comes in. If he signs it, the SCOUTS will more than likely shoot down the unconstitutional parts. The remaineder will, in essence, be what he outlined in his campaign. The kicker here is do we trust the SCOUTS?
27 posted on 03/21/2002 5:36:19 PM PST by rintense
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To: rintense
WOW, what a miracle!, I found a pro-Bush thread on FR tonight.
37 posted on 03/21/2002 5:41:23 PM PST by StopDemocratsDotCom
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To: rintense
And to me, this is where the brillance of this bill comes in. If he signs it, the SCOUTS will more than likely shoot down the unconstitutional parts. The remaineder will, in essence, be what he outlined in his campaign. The kicker here is do we trust the SCOUTS?

I trust 4 out of 9 all the time, and another half of the time. I guess we're looking at a 50/50 chance...

39 posted on 03/21/2002 5:42:50 PM PST by SunStar
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To: rintense
. The kicker here is do we trust the SCOUTS?

I say "Yes!"

71 posted on 03/21/2002 6:02:54 PM PST by Salvation
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To: rintense
The kicker here is do we trust the SCOUTS?

In this case it will be a 9-0 slap down .. they're kick that part of the bill outta here ..

353 posted on 03/21/2002 8:30:17 PM PST by Mo1
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To: rintense
Well, if you live in the country, you don't really have a choice. The SCOTUS is the only constitutionally empowered branch to adjudicate. Bush has to execute laws-- even if he disagrees with them or their constitutionality. The only branch the public respects on adjudication is the SCOTUS. Would you believe Clintoon or Al Gore or Tom Daschle if they declared legislation constitutional? Of course not, and neither would most Americans.

This bill has been around for like 8 years. It is not going any where. If Bush vetoed it, the Democrats and McCain would spend the next months up to November talking about how that politicians who are pupperts of corporate interests (Bush, Senate and House GOPers who voted against it) don't want the legislation. They wouldn't try to fix the bill. They want this as an issue more than anything.

Imagine if this November, the midterms go as they have historically for the past 70 years (except for a year of FDR's and Clintoon's administration) and both the House and Senate go Democrat. Imagine if Gore wins the electoral vote and not just the popular vote in 2004. These aren't far-fetched. Gore would sign this law in Feb. of 2005 and we'd be right where we are now-- with the SCOTUS having to kill this. The GOP wanted line item veto, but SCOTUS killed it (do you hear people campaign on line item veto anymore?). The SCOTUS killed separate, but equal, they killed gun-free school zones in 1995. A President can't kill an issue and Congress can't. Only SCOTUS.

McCain is going to have a legacy of authoring partially unconstitutional legislation. Bush in his statement on the bill said that he thinks there are questions of constitutionality on this that SCOTUS has to rule on.

525 posted on 03/22/2002 2:48:29 AM PST by GraniteStateConservative
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