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Kenneth Starr to lead legal team challenging campaign finance legislation
Associated Press ^ | 3-21-02 | JIM ABRAMS

Posted on 03/21/2002 1:29:30 PM PST by Oldeconomybuyer

Edited on 04/13/2004 2:39:59 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

WASHINGTON (AP) --

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To: Avoiding_Sulla;DoughtyOne
Well, perhaps there is nothing left to do but to provide justice for own own society's murder. Why do I feel like the central character in the movie DOA (both versions) in which the hero discovers that he has been murdered (by poison) about 1/4 of the way in, and spends the rest of the movie seeing to it that his killers do not outlive him. A grim film, but it may be apt for us now!
341 posted on 03/23/2002 3:29:13 PM PST by Lucius Cornelius Sulla
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla; DoughtyOne
Well, perhaps there is nothing left to do but to provide justice for own own society's murder. Why do I feel like the central character in the movie DOA (both versions) in which the hero discovers that he has been murdered (by poison) about 1/4 of the way in, and spends the rest of the movie seeing to it that his killers do not outlive him. A grim film, but it may be apt for us now!

You win! You're right. Of the two of us you're definitely the more pessimistic. Congratulationssss?

Seriously, I don't think our society has been fed the irreversible equivalent of fulminator mercury (if I remembered that correctly after over 40 years, maybe tomorrow I can remember where my car keys are?). But we have sustained a serious assault.

NEEDING to provide justice for our own society's murder need not be any more inevitable than a labor union strike. Find a way to make meeting that justice inevitable, and the need to strike evaporates.

The job of the reputable union leader is to make the threat of the strike more meaningful to management than any alternative for which they can plan. Reputable leadership is imperative because else the union becomes just another tool of management. And ultimately, any management team that employs such tactics does so because they "own" the watchdogs too. This is SOP for the established order eyeing the world. In your day in Rome; today in the U.S.A.

My Rant Against Despair

What do I believe you might agree we are ultimately up against?

Go to Genesis, find Jacob and Esau, then find Amalek. Know that mixed with the Godly are the Godless and the haters of creation, the good.

Then go to Exodus. Find Amalekites. Know that they strike the weak and young and feeble. And sometimes their kindred spirits (in contemporary terms, a fifth column) spring from amongst you.

Go to Samuel. Know that even amongst the sheep are wolves in sheep's clothing, and that government even annoited by God has never been the whole answer. Those who attempt to make government the whole answer are with the godless. The problem and the answer remains within us.

So how does this relate to our current worries?

Even self-inflicted destruction would not deter the creatures with whom we are now contending and with whom we always must contend.
Amongst us there are those who hate God so much they would immolate themselves if they felt they could be certain they'd take us ALL with them. But they fear SOME of us will survive and they would thus be defeated. They can't stand that, so they attempt the next best thing: enslave us. Enslave us, enabling them to reduce our numbers, and then thumb their noses at God.

Hence, find a way to ultimately dash their plans via their own hand, and we succeed, and you've served God. They continue hating, because we reach the stragglers, the weak and the feeble one at a time.

There is little doubt religion has been under sustained attack. The most despicable and quickly ascending was the Nazi's. The wise should come to view that as a "pilot" program. Those who are most willing to follow orders make the best sheep. But many others are not of the good German variety (no slam intended).

So the preferred model becomes an incremental one. (Progressivism with a down note.) One where the people must be made sheeple, and lulled into a sense of agreeable compliance.
A good way to do that is to increase creature comforts and promote declines in a sense of decency. These will undermine the human mental strength that enables and engages personal morality.
That we've witnessed here -- Europe's decline was already advanced, so there the changes were less noticable.
And now here, today, our decline is accelerating. (The year 2000 was some mad milestone that America fell short of, so those who would master us are hoping to accelerate our decline.)
Establishment Institutions, making a moral equivalency between the radical wing of Islam and all religion are aimed at attacking your efforts of sustaining moral decency. It is even more virulent to our cultural health as blocking intelligent profiling of potential terrorists is to our personal expectation of sensible treatment. Both appear aimed to quickly breaking down citizen resistence to what once was widely considered unreasonable. I hope I'm wrong. But I note my concerns are rational and that irrationality is a tool of depotism.

HENCE, KNOW YOUR GODLY BELIEFS ARE FAR MORE IMPORTANT TODAY THAN EVEN YESTERDAY.

Rejoice, you know your purpose. How do you know? The actions of the Godless tell you so.

Hallelujah.

God Bless us all.

Av

342 posted on 03/23/2002 6:56:16 PM PST by Avoiding_Sulla
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To: Avoiding_Sulla
God Bless us all.

Amen to that. While I guess it is unusual for you to have your posts discussed from the point of view that you are excessively upbeat (hello there, Nellie Forbush), I would remind you that while it is a sin to despair of personal salvation, which is guaranteed to those who turn to God, there is no such guarantee for either our nation or our civilization, any more than turning to Christ saved the Roman Empire.

In the meantime, we must hope that the gift of grace will be granted to our people, and act so that gift will be turned to good ends should it be granted.

343 posted on 03/24/2002 12:37:48 AM PST by Lucius Cornelius Sulla
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To: Askel5; Uncle Bill
A Starr bmp.
344 posted on 03/24/2002 10:39:32 AM PST by Senator Pardek
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To: Senator Pardek
Hehehe. Good one! BTTT.
345 posted on 03/24/2002 10:55:26 AM PST by Uncle Bill
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To: TBP
Correcting myself: It was Filegate and Travelgate.
346 posted on 03/24/2002 1:41:18 PM PST by TBP
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To: Senator Pardek
"I- yeah- well, no, but I."
347 posted on 03/25/2002 9:54:27 AM PST by Uncle Bill
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla
Well, perhaps there is nothing left to do but to provide justice for own own society's murder.
General:
I was thinking again of this response while enroute to your state.

You ended your last life seeing to it personally that one of your mockers answered for his low character. It was widely known that the retired dictator was wasting away from a gut ailment (possibly consumption). One of his debtors was overheard bragging how fortunate for him that "old Felix" was going to be dead before his debt was due.

The informant network, as such things are never retired entirely, reported the insult to old Felix. Whereupon your namesake had his servants drag the boob into his chambers, and after scaring payment out of the fool, personally straggled him. As Sulla busted a gut and bled to death from the strain, it literally was his last act of excess.

So your thoughts on justice here are not entirely without precedence. Coincidental? Perhaps some of us pick our screennames with just a little more providential influence than others. ;^)

I think your detractors had best take note.

348 posted on 03/25/2002 10:59:22 AM PST by Avoiding_Sulla
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