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Panel favors broadening sex ed (North Carolina)
News and Observer ^ | March 20, 2002 | T. KEUNG HUI

Posted on 03/20/2002 7:50:16 AM PST by mykdsmom

RALEIGH - The controversy over whether Wake's sex education program should be broadened beyond abstinence-until-marriage now falls in the school board's lap, after an advisory committee recommended Tuesday that Wake schools switch to comprehensive sex education.

If the board agrees, Wake would become one of a handful in the state where students could learn about homosexuality, masturbation, specifics on how to use birth-control devices and other topics now prohibited by the abstinence-until-marriage theme.

The change must go through a board committee, public hearing and board vote before becoming effective, but the recommendation shows the growing influence in Wake of critics of the abstinence focus.

"You need to get comprehensive education at an earlier age when they're the most sexually interested," said Devereaux Munn, a member of the group that made the recommendation, the Wake School Health Advisory Council. The board-appointed group, which consists of doctors, school employees and community members, is charged with making recommendations on the healthful living curriculum.

Wake instituted the abstinence-until-marriage approach shortly after 1995, when the General Assembly made it the standard in seventh through ninth grades. Districts that want to go beyond that approach must take certain actions such as holding a public hearing.

About a dozen of the state's 117 school districts offer comprehensive sex education, said Artie Kamiya, who was chief of the state Department of Public Instruction's healthful living section before becoming Wake's senior administrator for health and physical education. In the Triangle, comprehensive sex education is offered in Durham and Chapel Hill-Carrboro schools.

Groups such as the Christian Coalition support abstinence-only programs, but others such as the American Medical Association and the American Academy of Pediatrics back comprehensive sex education.

Since 1995, critics have tried to persuade Wake to go with comprehensive sex education. They have called the state's abstinence law unrealistic for limiting discussion of sexual activity to monogamous heterosexual relationships in the context of marriage and saying that homosexual activity is illegal in North Carolina.

"It is time for us to leave our political and religious differences at the door and look after the best interests of the students," said parent Ann Farmer, a longtime advocate of comprehensive sex education.

Council member David Moore said he supported switching to comprehensive sex education because it will allow educators to better answer students' questions without worrying about violating the abstinence requirements. He also noted that abstinence is still the cornerstone of comprehensive sex education.

But supporters of teaching solely abstinence say that encouraging students not to have sex but also telling them what to do if they choose to have sex sends a mixed message.

Council member Larry Bauder warned that getting community support for comprehensive sex education for all students will be difficult. He urged that it be limited to elective classes. But fellow council member Janet Palmquist dissented, saying few students would take those courses.

Nine council members supported recommending a comprehensive family life curriculum in grades seven through nine. They also urged that high schools be encouraged to offer comprehensive sex education as an elective in grades 10 through 12, which is allowed but not widely offered in Wake.

Only two members voted to keep the current abstinence theme with a recommendation that comprehensive sex ed be taught only in electives in grades 10 through 12.

Cindi Jolly, the school system's assistant superintendent for curriculum and instruction, said she will present the council's recommendation in May to the school board's program committee. The committee will decide whether to recommend sending the issue to the full board.

Kamiya said it is possible that the policy change could be in place by next spring.

Even if the board rejects comprehensive sex education, it leaves in place proposed changes that administrators want to make so teachers know they can talk about a range of topics including oral and anal sex. Kamiya is rewriting the healthful living curriculum to expand what students can be taught, within the limits of the abstinence requirements.

Although the board could block the rewrite, the board almost always leaves such matters to the discretion of administrators.

In other business Tuesday, the board:

Changed the Internet and e-mail policy so that students will automatically get access unless their parents fill out a form denying them permission. Currently, students are denied Internet and e-mail access unless they get annual permission. Administrators recommended the change, which takes effect in the fall, because few parents deny access and the Internet is an educational tool.


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To: mykdsmom
I am livid about this.

So am I. Fortunately, I live in a fairly rural/conservative area. This wouldn't even be an option to the principal (and most teachers) at our elementary school. However, unless we can stop this now, I'll need to find another option for middle and high school.

41 posted on 03/20/2002 10:02:33 AM PST by Helix
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To: texlok
Statistics show that where abortion and "family planning" are the most readily available - the out-of-wedlock birthrate skyrockets.
42 posted on 03/20/2002 10:03:32 AM PST by ppaul
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To: Helix
"It can't happen here. It can't happen here. It can't happen here....."

Guess what?

43 posted on 03/20/2002 10:05:18 AM PST by ppaul
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To: Salman; murdoog

"I see nothink....."


44 posted on 03/20/2002 10:08:31 AM PST by ppaul
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To: mykdsmom
They'll hire pedophiles to teach the classes too (how much you want to bet?)
45 posted on 03/20/2002 10:57:10 AM PST by Overtaxed
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To: Overtaxed
They'll hire pedophiles to teach the classes too (how much you want to bet?)

Gives new meaning to "homework" and casts a whole new light on "group projects" and "extra credit" assignments.

Shudder, shudder.

46 posted on 03/20/2002 11:55:13 AM PST by Carolina
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To: Overtaxed
They'll hire pedophiles to teach the classes too.....

They probably already have.

47 posted on 03/20/2002 12:07:34 PM PST by ppaul
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To: mykdsmom
Who controls the government schools of this state anyhow? Bureaucrats, parents, or taxpayers?

Several years ago, a government school administrator whose family is in Greensboro even wrote a guest column for the Greensboro News & Record saying that taxpayers didn't know what a school was for!

Inside the NEA

48 posted on 03/20/2002 12:12:41 PM PST by glc1173@aol.com
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To: mykdsmom
I already told my husband if we have to work 2 jobs each - my son will never step foot in a government school. This further cements my resolve and I MADE him read this.
49 posted on 03/20/2002 12:27:00 PM PST by GussiedUp
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To: mykdsmom
"You need to get comprehensive education at an earlier age when they're the most sexually interested".---WHY? IT WAS THE SO CALLED EDUCATORS WHO MADE THEM THAT WAY!
50 posted on 03/20/2002 1:22:57 PM PST by INSENSITIVE GUY
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To: oremus
ping
51 posted on 03/20/2002 2:43:12 PM PST by oremus
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To: Constitution Day
OH boy looky what I just found here.

It's a speak out section on the N & O website where comments can be made on this subject.

MS. Farmer is a very active participant and Dukie '01 looks like he could be a DU participant. Very scary that people have such little regard for theirs and other children's welfare that they are such strong supporters of this.

MKM

52 posted on 03/20/2002 4:20:00 PM PST by mykdsmom
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To: EuroFrog
Be sure and give your partner the reach around while having anal sex!

I'm almost afraid to ask.......what's that?

53 posted on 03/20/2002 4:33:24 PM PST by Lizavetta
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To: Lizavetta
I was afraid to ask........I live a sheltered life, and I like it that way LOL.

MKM

54 posted on 03/20/2002 5:41:49 PM PST by mykdsmom
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To: mykdsmom
Wow is right.
That Fanny Farmer is a real nut-job.
55 posted on 03/20/2002 7:28:42 PM PST by ppaul
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To: ppaul
She's writing the great American novel in there but at least she doesn't resort to name calling emotional tirades like Dukie '01 does.

This guy reminds me of the type that hang out in Democratic Underground. They just call people that don't agree with them racist etc. and go nuclear rather than debate in a reasonable fact based manner.

MKM

56 posted on 03/20/2002 7:50:04 PM PST by mykdsmom
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To: Valpal1
Well, as we are in a military community in Germany I thought (see what I get for thinking!) my son could get a good education in a DODDS school. He is in Kindergarten this year at the school. I (thank God) was able to volunteer in the classroom for three days some time before Christmas. What I saw was a massive eye opener for me. Over half of his class does NOT know their alphabet, my son, thanks to our work with Hooked On Phonics is a beginning reader. I went to his school library last week and asked the librarian to help me locate some beginning phonics readers, they had none. They are teaching these kids to count by 10's when most of them dont even recognize any number over 20. There is a "housekeeping" "center" in his classroom. I was appalled to see in this "center" little boys (and girls) dressing up and pretending. Not a bad exercise if there would have been appropriate clothing, oh no, these little boys were prancing around in sequined gowns. Seeing that signed, sealed, and delivered my decision to homeschool.
57 posted on 03/21/2002 2:50:40 AM PST by EuroFrog
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To: mykdsmom
Just pinged you about a related issue - and success in fighting it in Virginia.
58 posted on 03/21/2002 2:53:22 AM PST by Freedom'sWorthIt
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To: mykdsmom
Unbelievable.

Farmer seems to be a one-issue paranoid obsessive, not unlike some of the anti-Confederacy types here on FR.
She seems to want to present her argument with sheer volume of words and statistics... regardless of their veracity.

Dukie is more like the shrill DU type, as you said, who would rather call someone a "racist" or "homophobe" than have to debate the issues at hand.

59 posted on 03/21/2002 5:01:35 AM PST by Constitution Day
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To: EuroFrog
Do you need help finding materials? I use the Writing Road to Reading (Spalding Phonics) which Hooked on Phonics is based. Well all phonics are based on the Orton Phonagrams, but Romalda Spalding worked with and for Dr. Orton, and then wrote her teaching text. She must be in her 90's now. I had a phonics workshop from her 15-18 yrs ago. For early readers we use Primary Phonics and Dorling Kindersley. I have kids ages 5,6,7 and 13. For math, I am a Saxon fan, but also like Switched on Schoolhouse (7th grader is using it). I love the computer doing all the correcting, grading and reviewing.

I get most of my curriculum from ChristianBooks.com. They have a huge selection and very good prices.

If Laura Bush would make getting phonics, real phonics, back into the schools, it would be one heck of a First Lady accomplishment. She could start with the schools for military dependants.

Good Luck with home schooling. It is the only way to protect your children from the educratic terrorists.

60 posted on 03/21/2002 7:37:55 AM PST by Valpal1
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