Allies and Espionage

Jane's Intelligence Review ^ | 3/15/02 | Jane's

[DrLiberty]

It is rather strange that the US media, with one notable exception, seems to be ignoring what may well prove to be the most explosive story since the 11 September attacks - the alleged break-up of a major Israeli espionage operation in the United States which aimed to infiltrate both the justice and defence departments and which may also have been tracking Al-Qaeda terrorists before the aircraft hijackings took place.

The Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) has been quick to dismiss a 4 March report by Intelligence Online, a French web site that specialises in security matters (and expanded on by French daily Le Monde the following day) that US authorities had arrested or deported some 120 Israelis since February 2001 and that the investigation was still continuing. The FBI insists that no Israeli has been charged with espionage, but has agreed that an undisclosed number of Israeli students have been expelled for "immigration violations". Justice Department spokeswoman Susan Dryden dismissed the espionage allegations as "an urban myth that’s been circulating for months..."

If the reports from Paris are correct, it would be the largest known Israeli espionage operation mounted in the USA, the Jewish state’s closest ally and one on which it depends for its survival.

Israel’s intelligence organisations have been spying on the USA and running clandestine operations on US soil since the Jewish state was established.

This has included smuggling an estimated 200 pounds of weapons-grade uranium for its secret nuclear arms programme in the 1960s to widescale industrial espionage, much of it conducted by the highly secret Scientific Liaison Bureau, known by its Hebrew acronym Lakam, which was run by the Israeli Defence Ministry and its equally little-known successor Malmab (the Security Authority for the Ministry of Defence). Indeed, the General Accounting Office, the investigative arm of the US Congress, reported in April 1996 that Israel "conducts the most aggressive espionage operation against the United States of any US ally".

While the sort of operation described by Intelligence Online and Le Monde (if indeed the allegation is true) is unlikely to have caused anywhere near the damage to US security inflicted by navy analyst Jonathan Pollard, an American who was sentenced to life imprisonment in 1987 for providing Israeli intelligence with a mountain of top secret material in 1984-85, it would still be political dynamite which could result in a political backlash against Israel which is finding itself increasingly isolated within the international community...

US officials admitted to reporters that the entire investigation had become "too hot to handle", but declined to give further details. However, some FBI officials did confirm at the time that the Israelis were running a major eavesdropping operation that had penetrated into the highest echelons of the US administration.

[LarryLied]

We are hampered because the Democrat Party has screwed up all our intelligence agencies. Look at the ACLU, Look at Alan Dershowitz, Johnny Cochran and all the liberal trial lawyers . They have been ragging on domestic law enforcement for years. Yet the possibility of the Mossad messing with our soveignity and with American citizens doesn't interest them at all.

I can't believe you or anyone else thinks it is a good thing for any foreign intelligence agency to operate in our country.

[LarryLied]

Free Republic should serve America.

You've noticed a shift in content too I see. Democrats and how to stop them used to be the main topic of discussion.

[mad_as_he$$]

Good question.

1. They ran out of nasty names (not).

2. It is so far out even they will not deny it! (not)

3. Truth wins!!!! (My guess).

[Tarakotchi]

"Thank you for posting the DEA report."

Thanks to Justin Raimondo and antiwar.com for posting it.

[Tarakotchi]

There seems to be an interesting new development at intelligenceonline.com:

"Israeli Spy Operation Confirmed

14/03/02 - Intelligence Online is now in possession of new evidence that the 'Israeli spy ring affair' was examined at the highest levels of the Bush administration, in the form of a letter from the Attorney General's office. (...). [Total : 668 words]. (3.25USD)"

I'm too cheap to buy an account.

I wonder if this ties in, there was another report on the web that:

"Inside the Federal government, particularly the Department of Justice and the FBI, there is reportedly a 'war and a half' under way. Attorney General John Ashcroft reportedly ordered FBI Director Mueller and DEA Director Hutchinson to 'get this story off the front pages.'"

Executive Intelligence Review, March 15, 2002

[FreedomPoster]

You have three choices.

A> Take that line back to the middle east, where your homies believe that pantload.

B> Suit up

C> All of the above.

[Cindy]

Dr. Liberty,

In my opinion, this is the most important phrase of the article you posted: "If the reports from Paris are correct"

[txhurl]

..it appears highly improbable that the actual events were perpetrated by the culprits indicated in the aftermath revisions.

Especially now, when some quo bonies start quo boning.

I find it richly ironic that Pearl Harbor was one of the media's first descriptors/analogies when it all first happened.

[DrLiberty]

Just what "fraud" are you accusing me of, Nix2?

Tread lightly.

[Nix 2]

I tread. You slither. I suppose you're gonna tell me that the site you listed as the source of the original article IS really a freebie site that snatched it from somewhere else that snatched it from somewhere else and so it goes...and so what? I don't like threats, libby. No matter how it's implied or how subtley you word it. No matter how many ways you try to spin it, you are boogying down the wrong side of the street and the BO smells to high heaven. Must be that dang French perfume.
*cough....
DrLiberty---Streetcorner gynecologist. 'Ceptin' you pimp prop and have the chutzpah to pretend you're serious. ROF

[DrLiberty]

"I don't like threats, libby. No matter how it's implied or how subtley you word it. No matter how many ways you try to spin it, you are boogying down the wrong side of the street and the BO smells to high heaven."

YOU'RE the one who accused me of fraud, jerk. The article is real, as were the other ones dealing with the issue. Go harass Justin Raimando. Or how about The Forward mag?

As I said to you, JERK, tread lightly in your accusations. Unlike you, I am not a disinformation agent, but you appear to be. I answer to Him, and I won't waste a minute more of my time on slimeballs like you who care nothing for facts or truth, and just want to impune those of us who do. And if I do see you on the "Street" you better run the other way.

[DrLiberty]

Did you not read any of my previous posts?

To: Heuristic Hiker

go to www.undernews.com. It is posted there also and that is where I got the link.

3 posted on 3/18/02 10:07 PM Pacific by DrLiberty [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies | Report Abuse ]

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To: Heuristic Hiker

http://www.janes.com/security/international_security/news/jid/jid020313_1_n.shtml

This is the actual link to the actual site.

4 posted on 3/18/02 10:09 PM Pacific by DrLiberty

[Nix 2]

Read them all, mcNasty. All I see are several admissions that it is the same story, oft repeated, and that YOUR link in the posting of this article was bogus. If that ain't trying to perp a fraud, please define YOUR version of truth. You lied 'til you got caught. LOL. What a gross nerve. And then talk about disinfo? You said nothing when you posted it, and said nothing until someone pointed out that your link was NOT to Jane's as you FRAUDULENTLY posted it. It was to a feeble, freebie web page that reprinted the article from Jane's which reprinted the exact same article from LeMonde, has been posted all over FR for a week or so, and there you are with egg yoke running down your face.
DrLiberty, indeed. Liberty Forum, maybe?
Catch me on the *Street* and you wouldn't have a clue what hit you, fool. DrBravery too? ROF
Aren't computers fun things to play warrior games with? A$$hole.

[Cachelot]

And if I do see you on the "Street" you better run the other way.

Cripes. Another skinhead? Or a "Dr" in need of a shrink or perhaps a GP?