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Simon hired anti-gay, anti-choice activist (Here go the smears!)
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | 03/17/2002 | Lance Williams and Carla Manucci

Posted on 03/17/2002 7:36:22 AM PST by Pokey78

Edited on 04/13/2004 2:39:56 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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To: Truthsayer20
and extending civil rights to gays;

This was my favorite passage of the article. The implication is, of course, that presently homosexuals don't have civil rights which is out and out nonsense. They have the same civil rights as any other citizen. The problem is that they want to have expanded rights as compared to others. We cannot let little digs like the one cited above pass without criticism. Who would be against "rights" for all citizens? That is not the issue and those self absorbed cretins know it.

41 posted on 03/17/2002 10:23:52 AM PST by lafroste
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To: Dog Gone
Abortion is NOT the issue in this campaign. It's Davis.

You're right. But that's not the problem. For the socialist sheeple of California who want nothing but government to take care of them from cradle to grave, it's about evil white heterosexual males, the mean-spirited Republican Congress, greedy Enron executives and George W. Bush.

Only Gray Davis can save them from a fate worse than death. Failure to re-elect Davis will result in a Nazi-like reign of terror in California.

Or so the party line goes.

42 posted on 03/17/2002 10:28:33 AM PST by Euro-American Scum
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To: Pokey78
Davis is going to make sure we hear about this, a LOT. Stupid move on Simon's part. It shows his inexperience.
43 posted on 03/17/2002 10:31:16 AM PST by Torie
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To: uncbob
How is this a SMEAR. It sounds OK to me.

You are right on here. I am not reading anything that I don't like about Simon here.

44 posted on 03/17/2002 10:35:35 AM PST by mtngrl@vrwc
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To: Pokey78
Simon hires people who stand up for their religeous convictions?

Hide the women and children!

45 posted on 03/17/2002 10:37:11 AM PST by metesky
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To: Pokey78;all
I wonder if anyone is going to do an expose on the anti-American, anti-capitalist socialists that have surely been on Davis' campaign or among the ranks of state government since the RATS took over that office. hmmmm?

I'm holding my breath.......I'm turning blue........

46 posted on 03/17/2002 11:50:29 AM PST by ElkGroveDan
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To: stands2reason
Thank you. It is much appreciated.
47 posted on 03/17/2002 11:57:10 AM PST by Temple Owl
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To: Torie
Davis is going to make sure we hear about this, a LOT. Stupid move on Simon's part. It shows his inexperience.

Oh come on Torie. It's stupid to hire a webmaster? It shows his inexperience? B.S. You're just mad because Simon stomped Gerald Parsky's pick - Dick Rearend.

Your analysis is usually dead on target. This one you hooked over and to the left. Of course Davis is going to champion this line. What it really shows is the bias of the SF Chronicle! Davis is incompetent. He is already going negative. It's not going to help him if there are rolling blackouts this summer?

Regards,

TS

49 posted on 03/17/2002 1:13:43 PM PST by The Shrew
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To: The Shrew
And what if there are inner city riots? How will Gray Davis handle the violent mobs rampaging through the streets looting, burning, and trashing property? If its a long hot summer Davis will have his hands full putting out fires on every side.
50 posted on 03/17/2002 1:21:01 PM PST by goldstategop
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To: elwoodp
Right. It seems like, according to this article, anyone who is pro-life and against special rights for people based simply on where they choose to put thier penis is equal to Hitler.
51 posted on 03/17/2002 1:22:00 PM PST by GuillermoX
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To: The Shrew
Actually, I opposed Riordan in the primary, and posted that, and about that, several times. I voted for Jones. Sorry you missed it.
52 posted on 03/17/2002 1:22:06 PM PST by Torie
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To: The Shrew
By the way, you don't think Simon getting anywhere Sheldon is a good political move do you?
53 posted on 03/17/2002 1:23:14 PM PST by Torie
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To: Torie
Sorry, I did miss that. So, we can unite against Davis now?

Your saying that hiring Phil Sheldon who is a principled daily worker against the agenda of the left disqualifies him from working for Republicans? My belief is that if it hadn't been Sheldon it would have been Steve Frank - in fact there is probably an article being developed now for Frank you can bet on it - or it would have been someone else. It's just another example of liberal media bias.

The challenge comes now - does the Simon Campaign allow the media and the Davis cabal to define the campaign? OR, do they tell Californians how the problems that California has need to be dealt with and how Governor Simon would deal with those problems more effectively than Dark Davis has.

Regards,

TS

54 posted on 03/17/2002 1:49:34 PM PST by The Shrew
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To: all ; ElkGroveDan ; Torie
Going from the 2000 returns. These are the GORE Counties in California. Simon has to make up 1.3 million votes from the 2000 returns, either by suppressed turnout, increased turnout, or mindchanges.

Alameda (Oakland??)- Gore by 223,000
Contra Costa(Bay Area I think) - Gore by 80,000
Humboldt - Gore by 1500, Nader had 13%
Imperial - Gore by 3000
Lake - Gore by 2000
Los Angeles - Gore by 900,000
MArin(Bay Area) - Gore by 45,000
Mendocino - Gore by 4,000
Monterey - Gore by 24,000
Napa - Gore by 7500
Sacramento - Gore by 13,000
San Benito - Gore by 2000
San Francisco - Gore by 190,000
San Mateo(Where's that?) - Gore by 86,000
Santa Barbara - Gore by 2000
Santa Clara(Don't know that area?) - Gore by 140,000
Santa Cruz(Don't know that area) - Gore by 37,000
Solano(don't know that area) - Gore by 24000
Somona(don't know that area) - Gore by 54000
Yolo(don't know) - Gore by 10,000

Some of those areas are going to be real tough to overcome. The San Fran/Jokeland/Bezerkely/San Jose area will be tough. LA County will also be tough. Simon needs San Diego, Fresno, Orange, East Side of the state, Tulare, Shasta, Ventura, Riverside, Placer, Sacramento, and Santa Barbara to come through. I don't know offhand some of those counties(which I noted), but there are more dem areas there than I thought.

55 posted on 03/17/2002 2:34:08 PM PST by Dan from Michigan
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To: Dan from Michigan
A lot of liberals are mad at Davis. And the state is volatile. That is why when I read the bit that Simon had paid Lou Sheldon 30 K in his primary, I was amazed. That when the books are written, may be viewed as a fatal error. In any event, past play books should not be taken too seriously, particulary for a non federal office race.
56 posted on 03/17/2002 2:38:10 PM PST by Torie
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To: Torie
That's true. John Engler won Lansing, East Lansing, and even Ann Arbor(City of) in the last election. He even won Genesee County(County with Flint).

Granted his opponent was Geoff Fieger......

57 posted on 03/17/2002 2:44:14 PM PST by Dan from Michigan
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To: Dan from Michigan
Going from the 2000 returns. These are the GORE Counties in California. Simon has to make up 1.3 million votes from the 2000 returns, either by suppressed turnout, increased turnout, or mindchanges.

You are right, but you are missing one part of the formula, you have to be here to realize how despised Davis is.

The young African American lady who cut my hair the other night was saying how she doesn't know a thing about politics and never votes, but she thinks Davis is an idiot, and she's going to make sure she goes to vote against him this fall.

I think Simon's victory will come from a combination of things; an increase in the motivated conservative/GOP turnout, depressed Dem/Liberal turnout as they realize they have to chose between a conservative and a big ol' doofus, and simple turnover as many people who voted for Gore for superficial reasons decide that the honest and plain-speaking Bill Simon isn't such a bad guy, and that his ideas on rebuilding California make sense.

58 posted on 03/17/2002 2:44:15 PM PST by ElkGroveDan
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To: ElkGroveDan
I hope your right. I think this CAN be won, but Simon is definatly the underdog(not a bad thing).
59 posted on 03/17/2002 2:49:22 PM PST by Dan from Michigan
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To: SuziQ
Maybe the good folks in CA will just get sick of them and vote for Simon just to pi$$ these people off!!

Actually, I'm pro-abortion, and I usually prefer the Libertarian candidates.

The SINGLE BIGGEST reason I ever vote GOP is precisely to p*ss off the Extreme Left, because they get so shrill and hateful around election time.

I really dislike Bush. I voted for him, with regret. I hope to vote against Bush in 2004, and vote LP. But I fear the Hateful Left will push me into voting GOP again.

No, I'm not making this up. The Left's shrill hate is the MAIN reason I vote GOP instead of LP.

60 posted on 03/17/2002 2:58:49 PM PST by Commie Basher
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