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Hispanic Texas
Arizona Daily Star ^ | March 16, 2002 | Unnamed

Posted on 03/17/2002 6:00:26 AM PST by Love America or move to ......

Hispanics nationwide have a stake in the Texas governor's race. Laredo businessman and millionaire Tony Sanchez won the Democratic primary by about a 2 to 1 margin. If Sanchez unseats Republican Gov. Rick Perry in November, he will become the first Hispanic governor of Texas. Texas, following California, also would become the second state in which Hispanic voters put an end to Republican dominance.

In California, Hispanic voters were something of a sleeping giant. That all changed with the administration of Pete Wilson, the Republican governor who stupidly decided to exploit the state's xenophobes and bash immigrants. Wilson blamed immigrants - legal and illegal - for just about everything from lousy schools and health care to the failure to achieve world peace.

Faced with such abuse, the sleeping giant woke up. Voter registration drives became a favorite pastime in Hispanic neighborhoods. In 1998, Gray Davis became the first Democratic governor of California in 16 years.

He trounced his Republican opponent Dan Lungren, drawing 58 percent of the vote; Lungren got 38 percent. Davis captured just about every voter block except for white men, Republicans and Protestants. He carried Hispanics by a great margin.The Texas primary race, similarly, drew a heavy Hispanic vote in the southern part of the state. Observers said more Hispanics were moved to vote. While the major Democratic candidates both were Hispanic, Sanchez said his opponent, Dan Morales, was embarrassed to be Hispanic.

Sanchez reportedly spent about $18 million to defeat Morales. This is a record for a Texas primary, and it reflects an odd element to the general election. Sanchez is new to politics and wealthy. The family fortune is said to be $600 million. He reportedly threw as much as $13 million of his own money into his campaign kitty.

Hispanics are the fastest growing minority in the country. And as they increase, so too does their political influence. This is the most important political trend since Richard Nixon launched his successful southern strategy in which he urged conservative southern Democrats to switch to the Republican Party. It's a trend that could affect Illinois, New Jersey and some southern states where there is growing Hispanic influence.


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Comment #61 Removed by Moderator

To: Dane
...all you do is push them away with your xenophobic rantings and the demo's exploit that.

What they actually exploit is when folks like you dishonestly call folks like us "xenophobic."

Why should the Democrats make up their own lies about Republicans, when they can cite yours?




62 posted on 03/17/2002 8:29:28 AM PST by Sabertooth
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To: BOBTHENAILER
Bob, it won't take too many more years of massive illegal immigration to put the handful of Hispanics that believe as your friends, in Colorado, do in the minority in the American Southwest.

It's probably already done. Hispanics will be in the majority in the Southwest. Non-Hispanics will not have the votes to oppose anything they want to do.

That's the reality of what our open borders policy has brought us.

63 posted on 03/17/2002 8:37:06 AM PST by 4Freedom
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To: Bill Davis FR
The Republicrats will continue Hispandering.
64 posted on 03/17/2002 8:45:04 AM PST by nonliberal
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To: Sabertooth
A strong stand against illegal immigration is a natural GOP strength.

I agree. My point is that all the talk on this forum relative to this issue is somewhat premature. I still don't think Bush's policies are set in stone and the summit could bring news that is counter to present assumptions.

As to Prop 187, I'll defer to your explanation, as you're on the ground and I'm not. Thanks for the brief history on that issue.

I think you misunderstand me on this issue. I am not a RINO sheeple that swallows the party line whole. I feel firmly however, that this issue is so divisive that the RATS might be rubbing their hands in delight that they finally have a tactic that works, after failing miserably everywhere else. All that we need, after Jeffords and eight years of Clinton Hell, is to give rise to another divided party that would spawn Rat victory or another anti-immigration Perot type that would do the same. See my post #51, there are many Hispanics that love America just like you and I do. There are many that support the same ideas as you and me. Your own statistics from the Prop 187 issue prove that.

Hopefully we'll be surprised by the Monterrey results, and can get back to winning a war and putting a final stake in the leftist heart.

65 posted on 03/17/2002 8:50:24 AM PST by BOBTHENAILER
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To: Love America or move to ......
How could so many Republicans be so wrong about the effects of mass Latino immigration on the future of the Republican Party?

The answer is in the article:

That all changed with the administration of Pete Wilson, the Republican governor who stupidly decided to exploit the state's xenophobes and bash immigrants.
When the conservatives not only stop bashing minorities but disassociate themselves from those who do that, we will see masses of minorities --- Blacks, Jews, Latinos -- - joining the ranks.

Unfortunately, judging even by the numorous posts on FR, bigotry is widespread among the conservatives. Well, we have only ourselves to blame.

66 posted on 03/17/2002 9:03:43 AM PST by TopQuark
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To: 4Freedom
Even if Hispanics gain a majority in the SW, they do not vote 95/5 like blacks do (see Sabertooth's post to me where he describes the Prop 187 Hispanic vote).

I don't disagree with a strong immigration policy at all. I just think that a lot of posters here have the wrong impression of the real effect of recently passed legislation and further, have the fantasy that radical ideas like Aztlan, have even a breath of a chance of ever coming true.

67 posted on 03/17/2002 9:06:54 AM PST by BOBTHENAILER
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To: Love America or move to ......
Aw c'mon. This diatribe is from a leftist rag, I can't believe you got suckered by it. Are you going to be against vouchers, tax cuts, and concealed carry when this socialist paper rails against the dangers of such? When this paper does a sob story on the horrors of coat hangers, will you then be pro-choice?

Here's a little more propaganda from today's Star, an accompanying rant that calls wanting to prosecute Andrea Yates our self-righteous lust for revenge, and here's an envirohysterics demand for federal intervention based only on a 'what if'. Juvenile emotional bleeding-heart dribble, devoid of logic, yet you seem to believe that somehow they are dead on accurate on immigration and Hispanics.

'Discernment'. It's a beautiful thing.

68 posted on 03/17/2002 9:31:16 AM PST by Diddle E. Squat
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To: Love America or move to ......
The article states that Pete Wilson stupidly tried to bash immigrants and blame them for all the state's ills. Maybe he wasn't the sharpest knife in the drawer in some ways, BUT what he was saying mirrored the thoughts and anger of the majority of Californians who supported Prop 187 by over 60%, proven at the voting booth. Lot of good it did us, it was overturned by ONE liberal judge who said it was "unconstitutional". BS.

I was one of those supporters of Prop 187 because I, along with most Californians, could see what the invasion was doing, and resented having to pay for it in the form of increased taxation, crowded schools, crowded medical facilities, crowded welfare offices, crowded roads, crowded prisons, and seeing formerly clean towns turn to slums. Since then it has only gotten worse.

Why must we support Mexico? Most people have enough trouble paying their own bills without being FORCED to support other families of non-citizens?

Our government is hypocritical because it refuses to enforce our already existing immigration laws, it allows big business to hire laborers for half the price of American workers, bringing down wages and putting American workers out of work because they can't afford to work for five bucks an hour. Americans don't want to live fifteen people to an apartment, why should they? Why are illegal aliens even allowed to collect welfare? From what I understand, it is against the law, another law that is not enforced.

When false documents can be bought for fifty bucks on any street corner, and these documents can be used to collect everything America has to offer its citizens, why would our government be putting out the red carpet, come one, come all?

Who will pay for these millions of people when the pro-illegal alien crowd takes over state government? Ask a Mexican American who is a citizen, they don't like it any more than we do, but our hands are being tied behind our backs by a President and a Congress who don't care what we think.

69 posted on 03/17/2002 9:34:58 AM PST by janetgreen
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To: PatrioticAmerican
If most Hispanics are on welfare, how come so many(and most in many areas) work the lowest paying jobs, often at or near minimum wage? If they are freeloaders(the way you imply), why would they bother working when they could make about as much sitting home on welfare, and have so much more free time? Simply bored?

Ignorance is very sad.

70 posted on 03/17/2002 9:36:08 AM PST by Diddle E. Squat
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To: Dane
, they are cultuarlly conservative

Laugh laugh laugh. That's actually funny because there is very wide support among these so-called conservatives for a politician with drug-lord ties (he doesn't deny his businesses were laundering drug money), he is pro-abortion, pro-gay rights, extremely for affirmative action, for socialized health care. When offered a choice between a moderate democrat Hispanic --Morales, they clearly made the choice for the liberal Socialist.

71 posted on 03/17/2002 9:41:31 AM PST by FITZ
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To: Diddle E. Squat
why would they bother working when they could make about as much sitting home on welfare

Come to California and drive by any welfare office, you'll see what we're talking about. The lines go around corners daily. As for them working, yes, most of them try to get occasional work as day laborers in construction jobs and restaurant jobs, etc., usually working "under the table" for less than Americans can afford to. It's called "beer money". False documents do wonders to beat the system here.

72 posted on 03/17/2002 9:44:29 AM PST by janetgreen
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To: 4Freedom & Dane
I'm not aware of one Hispanic nation that is both fiscally conservative and socially conservative and not many that are either. Name one.

How about Spain itself? The Catholic Church & Franco haven't left too much room for leftish tomfoolery -- not yet, anyway!

73 posted on 03/17/2002 9:46:14 AM PST by dodger
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To: FITZ
That's a slanted analysis. Morales has all kinds of ethical problems, angered the Dem party by on the last day switching from another office to run for gov(thus turning almost all the party support operatives against him), and Sanchez tried to trumpet his connection to a popular Bush.

Morales is a moderate Democrat the way Clinton is a moderate Democrat. This isn't a case of Hispanic Dems freeing Barabas.

74 posted on 03/17/2002 9:47:12 AM PST by Diddle E. Squat
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To: BOBTHENAILER
The Hispanic population is not a Monolithic liberal voting block that is anti-American and pro-Aztlan.

I also live near the border and have Hispanic friends and Hispanic doctors etc. The problem is ---someone like Sanchez didn't have a chance before the recent massive immigration of people from Mexico ---who are not the same type of people at all as the long-time Hispanic citizens of the US. Most of the Conservatives of Mexico abandoned Mexico at the time of the Revolution. Those are very good conservative people. Mexico is mostly a Socialist country and these new arrivals like Socialism quite a bit. Hispanics voted in higher percentages for Reagan than for Bush because the conservative votes are being diluted out.

75 posted on 03/17/2002 9:47:30 AM PST by FITZ
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To: janetgreen
Ever driven by a West Virginia welfare office? Pretty white.
76 posted on 03/17/2002 9:48:25 AM PST by Diddle E. Squat
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To: Diddle E. Squat
Morales has all kinds of ethical problems

Like Sanchez's drug money laundering wasn't an ethical problem??? Morales was by far a better candidate even with his problems than this filthy rich Socialist.

77 posted on 03/17/2002 9:48:53 AM PST by FITZ
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To: FITZ
Laugh laugh laugh. That's actually funny because there is very wide support among these so-called conservatives for a politician with drug-lord ties (he doesn't deny his businesses were laundering drug money), he is pro-abortion, pro-gay rights, extremely for affirmative action, for socialized health care. When offered a choice between a moderate democrat Hispanic --Morales, they clearly made the choice for the liberal Socialist

As I laugh, laugh, laugh at your hysteria. Fitz there is something called a primary. Usually primaries bring out the party faithful, you know the people who believe the most in the parties core beliefs. Well Sanchez was playing to the demo party faithful in the primary and spent 18 million dollars against an opponent who spent under a million and the primary had a very low turnout.

He may have won the primary with his radical positions, but lost the war. We shall see in November.

78 posted on 03/17/2002 9:49:23 AM PST by Dane
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To: Diddle E. Squat
Ever driven by a West Virginia welfare office? Pretty white.

JUST WAIT... it won't be long before you understand what we're talking about.

79 posted on 03/17/2002 9:50:46 AM PST by janetgreen
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To: Diddle E. Squat
We'll see but I live in a Hispanic Area and the Sanchez bumper stickers and posters are being put up all over ---there is great enthusiasm for this liberal crook. These aren't true conservatives by any stretch of the imagination. I wonder if you'd be willing to bet money that Perry doesn't win the majority of the Hispanic vote?
80 posted on 03/17/2002 9:52:10 AM PST by FITZ
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