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Saddam s arsenal revealed
The Sunday Times (U.K.) ^ | 03/17/2002 | Marie Colvin and Nicholas Rufford

Posted on 03/16/2002 4:44:26 PM PST by Pokey78

A DEFECTOR from Iraq has given American intelligence details of a secret underground network of laboratories where Saddam Hussein is believed to be building weapons of mass destruction.

The defector is a 43-year-old civil engineer named Adnan Sayeed who worked on 20 sites. He has provided evidence suggesting they are part of a network of bunkers where chemical and biological weapons have been made and where attempts are under way to create a nuclear bomb.

A second defector has reported that Iraq has constructed seven mobile germ laboratories, which have been disguised as milk lorries.

Saddam’s efforts to conceal his weapons programme have reinforced fears among American and British officials that he has rebuilt a clandestine arsenal since United Nations weapons inspectors were forced out of Iraq three years ago.

Amid growing tension over plans by President George W Bush to force Saddam from power, the Foreign Office has alerted all its embassies after eight Iraqis were found spying on British diplomats in Sweden in preparation for suspected terrorist attacks.

The eight, including two diplomats, were expelled or banned from the country after carrying out reconnaissance on British and American missions in Sweden.

The expulsions in January were the first sign that Saddam may have activated a European network of spies to retaliate if he is attacked.

Sayeed escaped from Baghdad in June 2001 by paying £14,000 in bribes and driving his two wives and children north to Kurdistan.

According to a senior British official, his information about underground sites is regarded as “high-grade” by the Pentagon’s Defence Intelligence Agency. He has supported it with a stack of Iraqi government contracts, complete with technical specifications, which have been seen by The Sunday Times.

The 3,000-word manuscript of a preliminary interview with Sayeed shows that he claims to have created “clean” rooms, using special materials to line floors and walls. The sites were under private houses, state factories and the Saddam Hussein hospital in Baghdad.

Sayeed says a unit producing mustard gas has been hidden between factories making insulation material at the Al-Taji compound north of Baghdad. At the city’s Waziriya complex two years ago, he was ordered to wear a protective suit, mask and gloves to seal a floor in an area where the air passed through seven layers of filtration before reaching the outside.

He also speaks of a biological laboratory under the Adwaniya presidential palace and of wells situated 10 miles south of Baghdad that were dug six metres underground and were lined with 1.25 metres of concrete mixed with lead. “My assumption is that there is radiation there. Why use lead otherwise?” he said.

The second recent defector, whose name is being withheld until his family reaches safety, said he worked in a concealment unit to foil UN searches.

“We learnt our lesson,” he said in a videotaped interview with Iraqi opposition officials. “Houses and factories can be searched. So I had the idea to use trucks. If we disguised them as milk and yogurt trucks, who would suspect they are carrying anything suspicious?” According to his account, Iraq took delivery of seven flatbed lorries that were fitted with computers, microscopes and other equipment. They move between the central Iraqi cities of Hilla and Kut, he said.

Such claims are expected to add momentum to America’s efforts to win support for military action against Iraq. Dick Cheney, the US vice-president, arrived in Saudi Arabia yesterday on the latest stage of a tour of the Middle East.

Concern about retaliatory strikes in Europe in the event of war intensified when two Iraqis were expelled from Sweden. Muhsen al-Haidai, a chargé d’affaires, and Abdul Kadir Hussein were given 12 days to leave the country after Swedish police were provided with evidence of their spying.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: geopolitics; terrorwar
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1 posted on 03/16/2002 4:44:26 PM PST by Pokey78
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To: Pokey78; aculeus; Orual; Tennessee_Bob
A second defector has reported that Iraq has constructed seven mobile germ laboratories, which have been disguised as milk lorries.

Baby-milk factory bump.

2 posted on 03/16/2002 4:48:12 PM PST by dighton
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To: Pokey78
A second defector has reported that Iraq has constructed seven mobile germ laboratories, which have been disguised as milk lorries.

They go to and from the "Baby Milk Plant", no doubt.

3 posted on 03/16/2002 4:48:36 PM PST by Physicist
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To: dighton
You're quick.
4 posted on 03/16/2002 4:49:26 PM PST by Physicist
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To: Pokey78
I am guessing that our satellites can locate, identify and pinpoint every milktruck in Iraq. Take everyone of them out w/ missle strikes and we're sure to get the offensive ones. Of course, the Iraqi's will be saying, "Got Milk?" for a while.
5 posted on 03/16/2002 4:54:42 PM PST by gg188
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To: Pokey78
Such claims are expected to add momentum to America’s efforts to win support for military action against Iraq . . .

With this new knowledge, no doubt the French will be worried about all the innocent baby milk factories.

6 posted on 03/16/2002 4:56:44 PM PST by Harp
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To: Pokey78
No wonder things are heating up. Bet Bush is putting a plan together right now.
7 posted on 03/16/2002 4:58:29 PM PST by Jewels1091
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To: gg188
I am guessing that our satellites can locate, identify and pinpoint every milktruck in Iraq.

Well, maybe and maybe not!

During the Gulf War, they had an awful time finding SCUD sites.

8 posted on 03/16/2002 4:59:07 PM PST by Gritty
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To: Pokey78
Inside the Ring - Big BLU Bunker Buster

Big BLU

The Pentagon is rushing to produce a new and bigger bunker-buster bomb for use against hardened targets, like some of the underground hide-outs used by Iraqi President Saddam Hussein.

Pentagon sources tell us the new bomb is being developed for the Air Force by Northrop Grumman Corp. in California and is called Big BLU — for bomb live unit. The new bomb will be bigger and more powerful than the new BLU-118 thermobaric warhead dropped on caves in Afghanistan recently.

Big BLU, we are told, will be six times bigger than the F-15E-carried thermobaric bomb and will be packed with some 30,000 pounds of high explosive. It will be guided to targets by satellite and will sport a cobalt-alloy penetrating warhead that allows the bomb to dive up to 100 feet below the surface before detonating.

The bombs are so big that it will take a B-2 bomber to carry one of them, we are told. Three Big BLUs have been ordered by the Air Force on an urgent basis.
9 posted on 03/16/2002 5:00:20 PM PST by TomGuy
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To: dighton
Good thing we've got those sanctions in place to keep him from purchasing the tools to produce weapons of mass destruction. Otherwise, I'd have to take this report seriously.

He's not developing weapons to use against us, he's just developing them to help deal with those pesky Kurds and other rebels, that's all.

10 posted on 03/16/2002 5:01:07 PM PST by Tennessee_Bob
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To: TomGuy
All they have to do is find the door. The rest will take care of itself.
11 posted on 03/16/2002 5:01:26 PM PST by gov_bean_ counter
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To: Pokey78
So, it looks like the evidence that our so-called allies are clamoring for is beginning to take form.
12 posted on 03/16/2002 5:01:36 PM PST by Kerberos
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To: Pokey78
'A DEFECTOR from Iraq '

Which PR firm planted this one?

13 posted on 03/16/2002 5:02:44 PM PST by Boyd
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14 posted on 03/16/2002 5:05:57 PM PST by My Favorite Headache
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To: Pokey78
I have a hard time believing that anybody privy to that kind of information in Saddam's regime would make it out of the country alive. Could be disinformation, perhaps.
15 posted on 03/16/2002 5:10:35 PM PST by TrappedInLiberalHell
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To: TomGuy
Who needs nukes, when we have 30 kiloton bunker busters? Saddam better dig a really deep bunker.
16 posted on 03/16/2002 5:15:17 PM PST by tomahawk
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To: tomahawk
Who needs nukes, when we have 30 kiloton bunker busters?

The big BLU (formidable though it is) weighs 30 kilo pounds, not tons.

17 posted on 03/16/2002 5:23:04 PM PST by dighton
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To: Gritty
During the Gulf War, they had an awful time finding SCUD sites.

We are in the middle of a real-world test of all kinds of new toys. Not to say we can 'bug' the whole country, but we can do a lot better ten years later. I wonder who Gen. Franks is breifing on how to use them.

18 posted on 03/16/2002 5:24:11 PM PST by StriperSniper
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To: Pokey78
From a speculative perspective, Saddam would probably focus on biological and chemical weapons, rather than nuclear ones because of the lower level of infrastructure required to develop them. You don't need Oak Ridge-sized centrifuges to build a biological weapon. Hence, the milk truck idea.

But biological weapons have their own complications too. One is containment. US biohazard facilities have elaborate systems to process water and air and to decontaminate the researchers at the end of shift. Transporting deadly pathogens in milk trucks will give a traffic accident a whole new meaning. Preventing the escape or capture of research personnel is yet another problem.

Then there is the problem of weaponization, which is in many respects, the hardest part of deploying biological weapons. This requires testing facilities and manufacture that goes beyond a high-school lab level.

My guess is that the milk truck scenario is unlikely, but if it is true, Saddam is well and truly crazy.
19 posted on 03/16/2002 5:25:06 PM PST by wretchard
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But...but... this can't possibly be true. Scott Ritter has been on television at least once a week for the past few months, assuring us that Saddam is really no threat. He also assures us that it wasn't true that Saddam didn't allow him to do inspections; all that was 'misunderstood'.

Ritter makes me very nervous. His story has changed so many times it's like listening to a fairy tale. His comments fly in the face of all other available intelligence.

20 posted on 03/16/2002 5:29:16 PM PST by SmartBlonde
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