Posted on 03/16/2002 7:41:28 AM PST by codebreaker
Prosecutors will weigh a number of factors that may lead them to prosecute Andrea Yates husband Russell for either child endangerment or negligent homicide. ABC News has learned.
No decision has been made, but it is being seriously considered, sources said. Prosecutors would charge Russell Yates if an when the evidence warrants, but do not have the evidence now, sources said.
Andrea Yates 37, was convicted Tuesday of two capital murder charges filed in the killings of her children last June.
Sort of like they were just standing there, minding their own business, and that dang lightning bolt hit them. Andrea seems to understand and accept her guilt while Russell is in denial -- along with those who excuse their conduct. They, Andrea and Russell, committed "this terrible situation." They ought to be punished for it.
Following that line of thinking, you might also ask yourself if you were safe sleeping at night. Would you? He could harm your children when you were sleeping. Do you sleep in your children's room and not with him, perhaps bolt the door, set up an alarm?
Just what do you do?
Your write But I don't believe that means I can't understand some basics, based on common sense...
A big part of the problem in living with a mentally ill patient is that all common sense goes out the window. You can not react to the situation the way common sense would tell you.
When they are giddy and talking to themselves, what do you do? How do you react to it? When they see things, hear voices and then tell you about those things, are they just ramblings or are they something to take seriously? Remember, these ramblings are nearly every word that comes out of the mouth. The relativly sane moments are the exception.
If the ramblings are something to take seriously, then what? Call the police? I assure you the police - even if they did take the person into custody - will have them released at first light just to get rid of them. They are back at your doorstep. What next, a restraining order to keep them away?
Have them committed to a hospital? The hospital will only keep them so long. They will get them "stabalized" and send them home. Only you find when they get home the definition of stabalized is only one of the most minute degree.
Perhaps Rusty Yates should have given up on his wife. Called the police, sent her to a hospital, pushed her out on the street to become one of the chattering homeless you see walking around Sunset Boulevard in Hollywood. Many people in this country have obviously chosen the later. Maybe they were right too. They will never have to face someone saying they should go to jail for being complicit in a lunatic acting on the voices they hear.
No, I'm sorry, but your common sense does not give you the answer. No more than all the learning gave the doctors the answer to Andrea Yates. It is easy from normalcy to come up with an opinion. In this case though, the answer is very hard even if you have walked in those shoes.
But that does not mean that he does not bear any responsibility for the crime
Hello, uh earth to dipstick, you keep rubbing your own nose in it. Can you read your own writing?
If she did it and he did not... yes sherlock, it does.
Sheesh.
By all means he should be charged with murder as well. All the prosecution would have to prove was that he was obviously psychic and knew that she would DROWN all 5 kids that day.
Yep it should have been clear as a bell to him, I mean everybody on this thread would have been able to predict this would happen, mothers drown all 5 of their kids all the time.
. . .no evidence now?
Guess they are not too serious about this. . .
Mr. Yates, we are sending your wife home. She seems better now. We have changed her medication. Let us know how things go.
Do I wish there was some way the legal system could pop him and pop him hard? Yes. That's my .02, you're entitled to yours.
. . .would not be surprised if it was 'Rusty' made this decision for Andrea.
Maybe she was not as good a 'companion' on her medication. . .perhaps, he could not tolerate her actually recovering.
. . .There was little in Andrea's life; he did not orchestrate.
You didn't ask me. As you know, you and I seldom agree on anything. But I am going to go out on a limb here to say, "Hell no!" I don't think the wife will be blamed.
The man will probably fry alone (with regards to responsibility, he also killed himself right?)
There might be cries as to who 'made' him do it. I doubt Mrs. Six-shooter will be called into serious question. Perhaps a little now, since you pointed out some potential for hypocracy. But little if any substantive guilt or "responsibility" will be placed on the mother.
Nice catch by the way on that article. I heard the report, could NOT believe it. You ought to consider posting it on a thread of its own as well as linking it here.
I for one would like to see who flip-flops overnight regarding assigning blame for the father shooting his own six kids.
Good question too.
So long. Believe it or not, there are people who can discuss things without being insulting. Maybe you can learn to do that when you grow up.
btw, I meant what I said. You just don't have the capacity to understand it. IMO, Andrea should be put to death. Russell should be tried for criminal neglect of his children. I never said they were equally guilty......but you know that, don't you?!
And don't bother to reply. I won't read any more of your inane comments tonight.
You see, I am sane.
I'm outa here!!
Again, I think Andrea Yates really was trying to save her children from the devil. After all, that is what she told the police she had been trying to do. And I can offer a scenario under which her C of C theology could very well support her weird actions (in a decidedly perverse way) if she was profoundly depressed. That was my point.
Has anyone herebouts had any experience trying to get any American Court to sustain the involuntary treatment of psychotics at any time ins, say, these last thirty years?? Cain't do it ...
First,, the lefty libs gutted commitment and guardianship laws (Walden II & all -- schizophrenia just melts away with a bit of TLC ...), then the Scientologists & such kicked in (with WJC's curious authorization of them as a 'religion' contemporaneously with his harvest of their cash), then Managed Care defunded psychiatric care in America by 50% this past decade (in 1990 $$$).
Don't know (nor much care) about the oaffish Mr. Yates, but just try to get a loved one care against his or her stated preference ... it jess cain't be did no more!!
First, you would not continue to bring children into the world. . .you would not leave the children in full custody of that person; to be cared for, nurtured and educated by that 'sick' person.
You would not ignore a total wreck of a home, while expecting that 'sick' person to be fully responsibile for all housekeeping tasks. . .
Of course their house was a wreck (described, I believe by a police officer as a 'pigsty')and would bet ol 'Rusty' never lent a hand; or paid for someone to relieve Andrea. . .
You would probably try and make sure that person stayed on their medication. . .you would make sure that person was not left alone with children; for even a minute. . .
There are so many things, he could have done to help Andrea. . .and to protect his children. . .and for all the ways he could have helped; Rusty chose not to. . .preferring 'his' way. . .
He left their 'pigstye' of a home that morning and probably every morning. . .clean shaven and off to work; he left his children with a sick, miserable zombie of a woman.
Can only wonder what he said to Andrea the morning he left for work; that convinced her, that her anger and the solution to it, was justified.
Did he tell her to 'clean up the house'. . .maybe; perhaps he expressed the desire for another child.
The only evident truth about 'Rusty'; who now says he is not sure he will stay married; because he needs a companion and wants more children. . .is that this excuse of man/husband/father is, in fact, a frightening, empty, disgusting human being. . .
. . .great sociopath however. . .
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