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Prosecutors 'Seriously Considering' Case Against Russell Yates (Negligent Homicide)
ABC News ^ | March 16, 2002 SGT | Elenn Davis and Mike von Fremd

Posted on 03/16/2002 7:41:28 AM PST by codebreaker

Prosecutors will weigh a number of factors that may lead them to prosecute Andrea Yates husband Russell for either child endangerment or negligent homicide. ABC News has learned.

No decision has been made, but it is being seriously considered, sources said. Prosecutors would charge Russell Yates if an when the evidence warrants, but do not have the evidence now, sources said.

Andrea Yates 37, was convicted Tuesday of two capital murder charges filed in the killings of her children last June.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: charges; father; homicide; yates
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To: BJungNan
You are right. I have not lived with a person who is mentally ill. But I don't believe that means I can't understand some basics, based on common sense and known facts.

If, for example, my husband were mentally ill, had expressed any thoughts of harming our children, and had been taken off medication, I would not leave those children alone with him. Never. If I knew that some particular occurrence aggravated his mental illness (such as Andrea Yates' pregnancies) I would not willingly and knowingly participate in creating that situation again for him (as did Russell Yates).

Perhaps my mind is made up, and perhaps that is not right. But a large part of my opinion is based on what I heard from Russell Yates himself.

281 posted on 03/16/2002 3:27:03 PM PST by ohioWfan
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To: The Irishman

I think Zviadist may be onto something in pointing out the political uses to which this case is being put.

Hi. Thanks for considering my thesis. Agree or not, at least you considered it. I appreciate that. Cheers.

282 posted on 03/16/2002 3:29:10 PM PST by Zviadist
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To: codebreaker
I think that they would be right. I am not attacking "traditional" families like I saw one poster comment they thought that is what it was. I dont think so. I am a stay at home mother, my husband is the "breadwinner". Being in that position I know how terribly stressful it can be. I believe he was aware of her mental problems, and did not expect anything like this to transpire when he married her. So out of ignorance of its severity turned a blind eye. I understand alot of people cannot understand mental illness. I know I am having a hard time myself. One of my very closest friends was recently diagnosed with very similiar mental problems as Andrea Yates. I saw it coming too. I even contemplated calling CPS because I knew her kids were in danger. Her husband also turned a blind eye, and in fact was enabling of her psychotic behavior. He reasoned it away to whatever was going on that day. Finally two weeks ago she had a serious break from reality with their 4 yr old in the car and ended up in the mental hospital. Thankfully the baby was okay. We told him, told him and told him for months to get her more help. He refused. He got lucky, no one was killed. If something had happened, I would still vote her guilty, because even with pychosis she was very manipulitive and aware of right from wrong, but I would also have held him equally responsible. So I guess I am saying, yes he is just as responsible for not taking her condition seriously after being told it was serious. Who here would leave their child with a psychotic person and then be shocked if lord forbid something happened?
283 posted on 03/16/2002 3:32:31 PM PST by mini_teacup
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To: I still care

?I can tell you that it is very easy to fall into self deception like that.

I know what you are talking about. Few others here do. You'd think they would refrain from posting their ill-informed ridiculous emotional opinions in areas about which they know nothing at all. If there were a site about nuclear physics I would certainly refrain from posting. Yet after reading a headline or two they are all experts. The sheep march on, carefully.

284 posted on 03/16/2002 3:35:09 PM PST by Zviadist
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To: Zviadist
FWIW, I agree with you. Which is saying a lot. Because as you know, you and I seldom agree... on much of anything. strange.
285 posted on 03/16/2002 3:40:49 PM PST by Robert_Paulson2
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To: Robert_Paulson2

Because as you know, you and I seldom agree... on much of anything. strange.

Yeah, but you're a decent guy and so am I, so who cares. I'd still buy you a freakin' brew and I bet we'd have an interesting conversation. Cheers.

286 posted on 03/16/2002 3:44:52 PM PST by Zviadist
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To: ohioWfan
I believe he is absolutely NOT guilty for killing his kids or ALLOWING her to do what she waited for him to leave, in order to commit, premeditated, coldblooded murder.

I hardly see how excusing a woman's heinous murder of her helpless children, AFTER she waits for hubby to leave for work, pretty much nails it down to one person ALONE.

I have PLENTY of respect for women. It's cold blooded murderors I despise, along with those who try to turn it into a sexist debate. Playing the gender card. Playing the race card... whatever. It's a liberal ploy to create moral equivalency when there is none.

Every time you fill in the post form you prove it. You are clearly grasping at reasons to hold someone else equally responsible for what the heinous murderess and she alone, did to her children.

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bang and blame lady... just keep it up. you make my point very well. very nice of you to do it so diligently. thanks.

287 posted on 03/16/2002 3:49:16 PM PST by Robert_Paulson2
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To: Zviadist
Since when is intimate knowledge of the minutiae of that which is being discussed a prerequisite for posting here? I'd wager that the majority of posts here ... including many of mine ... are people going off emotionally half-cocked about this or that. That's what Internet message boards like this are all about. It gives people a chance to vent their spleen and rant from their individual soapboxes about issues. I don't of anyone with a brain who treats this as objective, rational, scientific or deductive analysis of things.

As far as the potential political ramifications, who cares? Because NOW might hammer Russell Yates, and it might put a conservative on the same side as NOW on an issue or might paint NOW in a good light, we should knee-jerk take a position against NOW? Because people who oppose "traditional families" and who hate the concepts of home schooling might use the example of the Yates to smear or impede others who seek to practice those concepts, we should keep our mouths shut about this?

Not me. Again, politics is or at least should be irrelevant here. To me, this is strictly about right or wrong. And if being right and being able to look at my face in the mirror in the morning puts me on the side of NOW on one issue out of a million, or puts me on the side of those who seek to attack "traditional families"/home schooling, so be it. Because right or wrong comes before political considerations for me, and I deal with things on an individual basis, case-by-case, on their own merits as they're placed in front of my face. I don't get into mind games and I don't worry about any supposed effects the matter at hand might have on anything else.

Basically, though, I think your posts in this thread have been intended solely to get a rise out of people.

288 posted on 03/16/2002 3:53:28 PM PST by GB
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To: codebreaker
What legally recognized duty did he breach, so as to cause the death of his children? Remembering that we do not have common law crimes, please name a statutory duty this man breached? At the most it appears that he did not handle a difficult situation(as to intensity and duration) very well. How many could have handled it. Leave him alone.
289 posted on 03/16/2002 3:55:47 PM PST by HENRYADAMS
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To: Robert_Paulson2
What in the world are you talking about??

I did nothing to make this a sexist debate......you did.....or someone before you to whom you were ranting.

There is absolutely no moral equivalency between what she did, and what he did, and I made abolutely no claim that there was (can you read?). I never said they were equally responsible for this heinous crime (once again, can you read? 'both' and 'equal' are not synonyms).

She committed the murder. She held her children under the water, suffering, struggling, trying desperately to break free. Her crimes are beyond description and beyond belief.

But that does not mean that he does not bear any responsibility for the crime. That does not mean he is not culpable because he was negligent to his children. His guilt or innocence needs to be decided by a judge and jury who have all the facts, but from the facts that have been made public, he did not protect his children as a father should, and should be held responsible.

290 posted on 03/16/2002 4:07:02 PM PST by ohioWfan
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To: codebreaker
Father of Six Charged with Their Murders
Will his wife be blamed for leaving the children in his care?
291 posted on 03/16/2002 4:10:37 PM PST by ValerieUSA
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To: GB

That's what Internet message boards like this are all about. It gives people a chance to vent their spleen and rant from their individual soapboxes about issues. I don't of anyone with a brain who treats this as objective, rational, scientific or deductive analysis of things.

You've been here long enough to know better. This is not an internet chat site. It is a place for more serious analysis, not emotionalism and empty-headedness. Have a look back at the charter.

292 posted on 03/16/2002 4:13:31 PM PST by Zviadist
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To: rintense
I agree the verdict was correct for Andrea. However, the joker Rusty should be tried for neglect and putting the kids in harms way. IMHO he should make a final appearance in Huntsville. Can you imagine, as I have read, he built a house then rented it while his family LIVED in a trailer. Great provider !!! And while ex-wife Andrea spends the rest of her life behind bars, He will be married, live in a house and produce lots more replacements for the dead Children. AARRRRRGGGG
293 posted on 03/16/2002 4:14:36 PM PST by battleax
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To: Zviadist
Have a look at the archives.
294 posted on 03/16/2002 4:26:48 PM PST by GB
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To: codebreaker
Well then, I guess we'll just have to prosecute every guy who marries a crazy bleeptch and every gal that marries a dumba$$.
295 posted on 03/16/2002 4:27:27 PM PST by wattsmag2
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To: alnick
I'm thinkin' that as soon as the fact that his wife murdered his entire family, and was to stand trial for murder, he began to contemplate what life was going to be like with her behind bars. He stood by her during the trial, she is sentenced now, it is not like he would have just made up his mind. If my wife murdered my family, the least I would do is get divorced.
296 posted on 03/16/2002 4:38:02 PM PST by jeremiah
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To: Zviadist
Look, I'll concede to you that this place is a million miles above the average Internet message board. And Jim Robinson is doing the Lord's work by making it available to us. But it is what it is, and people who take it and themselves so seriously and act like we're exchanging the Blessed Sacraments when we post here have always been a turnoff for me. I dislike pomposity whether it's of the left or the right.

And the whole argument here is moot, because I'll eat every hat I own if the prosecutors in Houston come up with a charge that will stick against Russell Yates. Would I like to see it happen to him? Yes. So sue me.

Plus your use of the buzz word "sheep" connotes libertarianism to me, which is a philosophy that I do not and can not subscribe to.

297 posted on 03/16/2002 4:38:15 PM PST by GB
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To: nicmarlo
Well, at least in Florida, we have The Baker Act and the first thing they ask before they initiate picking up someone under the Baker Act "Are you a danger to yourself or others?" Nobody ahead of time never picked up on that fact that she was crafty and this was a very elaborate plan. She was suffering from a mental disorder but she wasn't totally out of it to conceal each drowning from the next and the next and keep track of what she was doing. It must have been chaotic by the time she was chasing the seven year old around the house but he couldn't escape. They fought for their lives and she was resolute that they all had to die. She called the authorities.

That being said, the husband is negligent for the simple fact that he really was not participating in Andrea Yate's treatment. He gave a press conference and he said that all she had to do was to take her medicine and take a shower. Those were her only responsibilities. What did he think those five children were that were all over the house? mannikins? Why didn't he mention that the children were her responsibility and his. He forgot to mention the children AT ALL and I heard that sometimes during the trial, he played videogames out in the hallway.

He was negligent by not paying enough attention to a wife that was crafty and had a mental disorder as well. Human beings are very complex and due to his lack of sensitivity, he had no fatherly instincts that his children were in harm's way. He'd be a great guest on Jerry Springer and maybe he will try to capitalize on his undeserved celebrity. I won't be watching his pity party. I don't pity him. I feel only for those poor kids who were brutalized by mom and betrayed by dad.

298 posted on 03/16/2002 5:12:18 PM PST by floriduh voter
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To: yikes
"Based on his spraying of potential targets yesterday at the press conference? He cast his net pretty wide. More humility would have been in order. But he learned his lessons well from the Slicksters."

Boy, are you right. I saw it too, and I was actually shocked by Rusty's totally self-justified attitude and his blame-everybody-else statements. Perhaps he saw this coming, too, and wanted to try to innoculate himself as best he could, but it was sickening.

299 posted on 03/16/2002 5:23:50 PM PST by Irene Adler
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To: father_elijah
I worked for a guy who took effexor; saw the bottle on his desk. Without fail, he'd yell at me and his mom every Thursday (he worked out of their luxurious home). I hated Thursdays and it was only Thursday's he'd go off.
300 posted on 03/16/2002 5:25:53 PM PST by floriduh voter
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