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Border Patrol encounters Mexican soldiers: Heavily armed foreign troopers on U.S. turf near Tecate
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | Saturday, March 16, 2002 | By Jon Dougherty

Posted on 03/16/2002 2:15:46 AM PST by JohnHuang2

A U.S. Border Patrol officer has encountered four heavily armed Mexican army soldiers on the U.S. side of the border near San Diego.

The soldiers, armed with three submachine guns and one M-16 rifle, crossed the border near Tecate, Mexico, while on a counter-drug mission, Border Patrol spokesman James Jacques said. They were all dressed in camouflage fatigues, said officials.

A Border Patrol agent, who was not identified in the SanDeigoChannel.com report, said he was following footsteps left by the Mexican patrol. When he encountered them, one of the Mexican soldiers had his sidearm unholstered.

The agent then unholstered his sidearm and identified himself. He told superiors the Mexican troopers then realized they were inside the U.S. and cooperated with the Border Patrol agent, who took them to a nearby Border Patrol station.

Their identities were verified by the Mexican consulate and other U.S. officials before they were returned to Mexico via the San Ysidro Port of Entry. The report did not say whether their weapons were confiscated.

"This could easily have escalated into a real tragedy," Jacques told reporters. "Thankfully, cooler heads prevailed."

The Border Patrol's Washington, D.C., headquarters did not immediately return phone calls seeking comment.

The March 10 incident signals a growing trend of Mexican military forces crossing into the United States.

In March 2000, WorldNetDaily reported that a group of Mexican soldiers fired on Border Patrol officers.

On March 14, 2000, "two Mexican army Humvees carrying about 16 armed soldiers drove across the international boundary and into the United States near Santa Teresa, New Mexico," said a statement issued at the time by the National Border Patrol Council, a union representing about 8,300 "non-supervisory" Border Patrol personnel.

There the vehicles pursued a Border Patrol vehicle, which was "outfitted with decals and emergency lights (that were activated for much of the pursuit) over a mile into the United States," the union said.

The lead Mexican army vehicle, said the council, contained nine soldiers "armed with seven automatic assault rifles, one submachine gun and two .45 caliber pistols," and was eventually apprehended by other Border Patrol units.

The second Mexican army Humvee, however, "pursued a Border Patrol agent on horseback and fired a shot at him. The soldiers then disembarked their vehicle, fired upon one more Border Patrol agent and chased another agent before fleeing [back] to Mexico in their vehicle."

Then, in November, two border patrolmen who had just disembarked from a "clearly marked Border Patrol helicopter" immediately came under fire from a 10-man unit of what appeared to be soldiers with the Mexican army, according to L. Keith Weeks, vice president of the National Border Patrol Union Local 1613 in San Diego, Calif.

The second incident reportedly occurred Oct. 24 in Copper Canyon, about eight miles east of the Otay Mesa Port of Entry.

About eight shots were fired, Weeks said. "Once other Border Patrol agents neared the scene, the soldiers retreated to Mexico and drove off in a minivan," he added.

News of the incursion comes as President Bush earlier this week convinced the House leadership to attach an amnesty bill to a series of other non-controversial bills that usually don't require much debate. The measure was passed.

Critics of Bush's bill say the granting of amnesty to millions of illegals rewards illegal behavior, worsens domestic security and demoralizes the Border Patrol and other law enforcement agencies charged with enforcing immigration laws.

On Wednesday, Bush signed into law the "Family Sponsor Immigration Act of 2002," which, the White House said, "allows an alternative family member to sign the necessary affidavit of support for an alien in the event of the death of the relative who initially filed a petition for permanent resident status for the alien."


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To: Don Myers
There are a relatively few holdouts

And the holdouts are put on display for public ridicule....the sheeple cry out against those who defend the country our Founding Fathers envisioned.....the tragic end of America.....if people would only take their heads out of the sand.....we could take our country back from being held hostage by the likes of Daschole, the Klintoons, Boxer, Feinstein, Leahy, the Kennedys, etc., etc., etc.

121 posted on 03/16/2002 8:06:07 AM PST by nicmarlo
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To: nicmarlo
"And the holdouts are put on display for public ridicule....the sheeple cry out against those who defend the country our Founding Fathers envisioned.....the tragic end of America...."

This board is a microcosm of our Nation. You see the same things here.

122 posted on 03/16/2002 8:08:00 AM PST by Don Myers
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To: nicmarlo
"Tis the problem for depending upon Big Brother; his goals are not the people's goals....and he invents all the red tape so that laws cannot be easily enforced....."

Yep. All communist countries will eventually collapse under the weight of corrupted, red tape based systems.

123 posted on 03/16/2002 8:08:18 AM PST by cake_crumb
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To: JohnHuang2
Does anyone think that Mexico is going to mount and armed incursion? Take off the tin foil...Please...Mexico will take over the Southwest by clogging our social services, flooding the labor market and electing socialist leaders...Ist already happening...

I wish it was as easy as pointing a gun

124 posted on 03/16/2002 8:08:21 AM PST by antaresequity
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To: usconservative
I remember that! There was a documetary about it, too.

If I'm not mistaken, that's how the crack assault team earned it's Stripes
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125 posted on 03/16/2002 8:11:31 AM PST by Tickle Me Pank
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To: Don Myers
This board is a microcosm of our Nation. You see the same things here.

But at least the people on this board have a passion which transcends the selfishness and disinterest in country which seems to be lacking in the general population (unless it's something like the toys they want to buy but can't, then I see passion).....

126 posted on 03/16/2002 8:11:56 AM PST by nicmarlo
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To: antaresequity
Mexico will take over the Southwest by clogging our social services, flooding the labor market and electing socialist leaders...It's already happening

Yes, it is, isn't it? Now, they're allowed to do it with the stamp of approval from Congress and our President.

127 posted on 03/16/2002 8:13:34 AM PST by nicmarlo
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To: antaresequity
Ok, the Mexican soldiers who fired upon the Border Patrol agents were really Snow White and her group of merry little people just out for a walk in the desert. No one but you has mentioned an Armed Mexican incursion (read Mexican government sanctioned attack) upon the US. If you mean that we are discussing some corrupt officials sending some equally corrupt soldiers across the border for their own purposes, do you think it all that wild when they have crossed the border and fired upon our people? Would you prefer to think that the Mexican Army is about to attack the US?
128 posted on 03/16/2002 8:14:01 AM PST by Don Myers
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To: nicmarlo
Oh, I agree there is a lot of passion in the US for their toys and hedonistic lifestyle. And that is what our rulers want.
129 posted on 03/16/2002 8:17:16 AM PST by Don Myers
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To: Sabertooth
I say the Army Corps of Engineers builds fences on our borders and the U.S. military patrols them.

Abolish the civilian border patrol.

The defense of our national sovereignty is a job for our armed forces.

Retire the national debt.

But hey, I would concede that some confiscated possessions could be auctioned on Yahoo. Just to be fair.

LOL.

130 posted on 03/16/2002 8:17:24 AM PST by 4Freedom
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To: 4Freedom
"The defense of our national sovereignty is a job for our armed forces."

Our Armed Forces are busy doing other things.

131 posted on 03/16/2002 8:18:40 AM PST by Don Myers
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To: NoControllingLegalAuthority
This is beginning to sound like we are going to have a shooting war along the border...

No, it sounds like making a big deal out of nothing.

132 posted on 03/16/2002 8:22:43 AM PST by BJungNan
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To: Don Myers
there is a lot of passion in the US for their toys and hedonistic lifestyle. And that is what our rulers want.

I absolutely agree with you.....and also to dumb down our kids, let them grow up stupid, needing to be told what to think, how to think, what to do, when to do it....control, control, power, power...

133 posted on 03/16/2002 8:25:44 AM PST by nicmarlo
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To: NoControllingLegalAuthority
This is beginning to sound like we are going to have a shooting war along the border. These Mexican soldiers may have some financial interest in smuggling people or drugs and are trying to intimidate Border Patrol officers who are too close to the source of the smuggling. 2 posted on 3/16/02 4:23 AM Pacific by NoControllingLegalAuthority

You bet. Its coming. But, what I want to know is who in Hell is standing up for American interests? Im pro-GW, but my gosh! Hes seems to be spending more time trying to adopt mexico as a 51st state than anything else!

The New World ReOrder crowd must be very happy with GW.

134 posted on 03/16/2002 8:29:09 AM PST by antidemocommie
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To: BJungNan
"No, it sounds like making a big deal out of nothing."

Yeah, it was probably just a little harmless target practice. It wasn't the fault of those Mexican soldiers that the Border Patrol agents had targets painted on their backs.

135 posted on 03/16/2002 8:35:55 AM PST by Don Myers
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To: antidemocommie
"The New World ReOrder crowd must be very happy with GW."

And, a light flickers on.

136 posted on 03/16/2002 8:36:50 AM PST by Don Myers
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To: Don Myers
I certainly did not mean the problem at the boarder was not serious. But the incident of the federalies coming across sounds to me to be innocent enough.

Perhaps the more significant point is that someone armed like that could get to our side of the cactus by the big rock that marks our boarder.

137 posted on 03/16/2002 8:41:18 AM PST by BJungNan
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To: BJungNan
"Perhaps the more significant point is that someone armed like that could get to our side of the cactus by the big rock that marks our boarder."

Are you kidding? The border is nothing but a piece of land. There is no fence there or any type of barrier. Mexican soldiers crossed the border and shot at marked Border Patrol vehicles and agents, and the most significant thing is they crossed the border with weapons?

138 posted on 03/16/2002 8:44:44 AM PST by Don Myers
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To: BJungNan
"Perhaps the more significant point is that someone armed like that could get to our side of the cactus by the big rock that marks our boarder."

Someone with something more sinister than a gun...

139 posted on 03/16/2002 8:46:01 AM PST by monkeywrench
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To: Dane
Looks like the system worked, but you just want to complain.

The INS didn't work, it didn't shut down the border when there was s definite security risk to Americans. The local police had to do that ---interesting huh. I wonder how many of his buddies did make it across, and you can tell how lax they know bridge security is that they would just walk parts of bombs over the bridge and through INS checks. At least one did get caught. Maybe he needed that stuff to go pick apples.

140 posted on 03/16/2002 8:53:40 AM PST by FITZ
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