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Jesus, in the Shroud of Turin is truly a revelation
WHISTLEBLOWER MAGAZINE ^ | 3/12 | Wired

Posted on 03/15/2002 6:57:35 AM PST by OPS4

WHISTLEBLOWER MAGAZINE Evidence of the risen Christ? Special Easter report sheds new light on reputed burial cloths of Jesus

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posted: March 12, 2002 1:08 p.m. Eastern

© 2002 WorldNetDaily.com

The March edition of WND's acclaimed monthly magazine, Whistleblower concludes with an in-depth and stunning report on the Shroud of Turin – the 14-foot-long piece of linen believed by many to be the burial cloth of Jesus of Nazareth.

The most studied artifact in human history, the image of a crucified man mysteriously emblazoned upon it – in a way modern technology has been unable to duplicate – is breathtaking.

Experts – the gurus of science and medicine, the professors of history and art – cannot agree on the authenticity of the Shroud of Turin. Skeptics have tried, unsuccessfully, to recreate the image they insist is a “pious fake.” Most who reject the Shroud put their faith in the carbon-14 testing results that date the linen as from the 14th century. Others respond that the storage conditions over the years and at least one fire forestall any accurate dating using carbon-14 tests.

Believers point to the growing body of scientific and historical evidence that bolster the authenticity of the Shroud.

How, ask Shroud supporters, is it possible that a clever fake shroud could be made in the 1300s as a perfect photographic negative that would not be properly “seen” until modern photography was invented? And what of the incredible fact that the fabric areas on the Shroud where the image is contained are only one fiber deep? No paint or stain would remain on the top surface of the first layer of the fibrils.

And how was a fraudulent relic-monger to know the medical truths that recent medical science has just learned? The medical details of crucifixion are so complex that no modern artist has – and no medieval artist could have – duplicated the precise geometry of the body in extremis.

And most compelling, why has no copy been achieved, given the vast science and technology at our command?

Skeptics have a difficult time, say Shroud proponents, with the mounting scientific and historical corroboration that should force an open-minded investigator to reconsider his objections.

One historian of the Shroud mused, “Their refusal to believe the evidence is itself not a scientific attitude.” The real problem, claim Shroud supporters, is not that an ancient cloth that covered a crucified victim still exists after two thousand years. Said one researcher: “Do you think that if the ancient burial sheet of a sandal maker had been discovered with a scroll that read, ‘here lies Benjamin the Sandal Maker,’ that the scientific world fall all over itself to prove that it could not be Benjamin the Sandal Maker?”

“No. They only compromise their scientific witness because the peculiarities of the wounds of this victim reveal him to be no sandal maker, but the Son of God. If they could, they would get rid of all the physical evidence of Christianity – that Jesus lived, died and was buried. And then Christians would have nothing to believe in. Then, after two thousand years, Christians would finally die out.”

The March edition of Whistleblower is dedicated to the rampant persecution of Christians in today's world. But in honor of Easter, WND's editors included this special section on the Shroud of Turin. Titled "The first Christian martyr," this eye-opening report on the Shroud – as well as the lesser known Sudarium of Oveido, believed to be the face-cloth of the entombed Jesus – begins with the reactions of visitors who view the Shroud in person:

“You look at it and you cannot escape it: His body was horribly, horribly wounded. I choked up,” said one visitor to the millennium Shroud of Turin exhibit.

Another viewer summed up his experience, “I realized that this image is a message that was left for us. The resurrection truly happened. The man they tried to extinguish, lives. And we will too, no matter what the world tries to do to us, we will rise again with Him.”

Whistleblower's special report by Mary Jo Anderson includes five remarkable, high-quality photographs taken by Barrie M. Schwortz, a member of the historic 1978 scientific team that was allowed to examine the Shroud. One of them is the full-length negative of the Shroud that clearly reveals the detailed and deeply gripping image of a crucified man.


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To: ArrogantBustard
It is possible. I can't remember the name of the book I got my information on bioplastic (your "gunk") from, but it came out within the last two or three years and the author was a biologist with a Spanish surname. You might be able to locate it on a website dealing with Sindology.

When you compare this with the all other data on the shroud, a date of around 50 A.D. in a carbon dating test on a piece of material stripped of biplastic would make a VERY compelling case for the veracity of the Shroud.

61 posted on 03/15/2002 8:24:39 AM PST by ZULU
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To: weikel
I give you a couple of links to look at. I am not saying what they should prove to you one way or another, just asking that you look.

"Nuclear Medicine and Its Relevance to the Shroud of Turin"
"Is The Shroud of Turin a Medieval Photograph? A Critical Examination of the Theory"

62 posted on 03/15/2002 8:27:43 AM PST by Woodman
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To: OPS4
Well, there seems to be something to this shroud, but what amazes me is the amount of analysis it gets. If the same folk spend as much time examining the Word, they'd find something a whole lot more mysterious and awesome than with what was left behind.

Christ said "the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life (John 6:63). Read you Bible today and fill you life with the Spirit!

63 posted on 03/15/2002 8:31:57 AM PST by kickme
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To: OPS4
In the Shroud, the image of the head is separate from the image of the body, --as in severed at the neck.

The face remarkably resembles that of Leonardo da Vinci.

64 posted on 03/15/2002 8:36:53 AM PST by RightWhale
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To: jboot
Until a method by which it could have been made is revealed, it is premature to dismiss it as a fake.

While I personally beleive the shroud to be real. There is a method by which it could have been faked. the method also produces an image that just lies on the surface of the fibers and makes a negative effect as well.

65 posted on 03/15/2002 8:37:05 AM PST by farmfriend
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To: Crusher138
he would have to have a process for putting an image on cloth that has not been reproduced in the 700 or so years since him doing it,

Not true. It has been reproduced.

66 posted on 03/15/2002 8:39:52 AM PST by farmfriend
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To: all
If you want to examine the shroud go to this web site and click on the image:

http://www.shroud.com/

67 posted on 03/15/2002 8:40:18 AM PST by Retiredforever
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To: OPS4
Check out http://www.crystalinks.com/shroud.html. Particularly the information on the face cloth, plant images and pollen.
68 posted on 03/15/2002 8:42:34 AM PST by ZULU
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To: sphinx
No one today can figure out how it could have been made

You obviously don't watch the same shows I do. I've seen it done.

69 posted on 03/15/2002 8:42:52 AM PST by farmfriend
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To: farmfriend
Fine, but was such a method available during the Middle Ages? I think not.
70 posted on 03/15/2002 8:44:00 AM PST by ZULU
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71 posted on 03/15/2002 8:45:14 AM PST by Stand Watch Listen
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To: kcrack
The Shroud stands as a monument and warning! Monument, as a proof that Jesus, Our Lord, did live, died and has risen as foretold in scriptures

The only thing the Shroud MIGHT stand as proof of, is that someone, who was crucified, also must have glowed in the dark really brightly after death.

Since the Gospels don't say anything about the soldiers being blinded by a bright light coming from within the tomb itself, for me this "relic" proves too much.

72 posted on 03/15/2002 8:47:29 AM PST by Alex Murphy
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To: farmfriend
That is news to me and, I suspect, many here. Elaborate, please.
73 posted on 03/15/2002 8:49:31 AM PST by sphinx
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To: OPS4

74 posted on 03/15/2002 8:50:28 AM PST by Stand Watch Listen
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To: weikel
"Its possible the radiocarbon dating is inaccurate but the fact that its dated to the 14th century when a lot of phony relics were made makes this a lot less likely." Did you really mean to say this? So...it's possible the carbon dating is inaccurate, but the since the possibly (I say probably) inaccurate carbon dating puts it in the 14th century, then it is probably a fake? If the carbon dating is inaccurate, IT MEANS NOTHING, doesn't it?
75 posted on 03/15/2002 8:53:35 AM PST by cmak9
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To: ZULU
Fine, but was such a method available during the Middle Ages? I think not.

Actually it was. As I have already posted here, I beleive the shroud to be real. There is ample evidence that it is. My point is simply on the ability of midevial mans ability to create such an image.

First you carve a relief image in wood. Then you place wet cloth over the image pressing it into the carved form. You then make a dobber out of cloth and fill it with the burial spices that were used on Jesus. Dipping the dabber into a tea, also created with these spices, you then dab the solution on the carved image. The solution lays on top of the fibers as with the shroud. When it dries it looks just like the shroud including the photographic negative effect. Simple if you have the talent.

76 posted on 03/15/2002 8:54:23 AM PST by farmfriend
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To: sphinx
See my post number 76.
77 posted on 03/15/2002 8:55:22 AM PST by farmfriend
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To: Alex Murphy
You obviously know your stuff, unlike many of the Christian believers on this site. But just for the record, what spectrum of light is visable to the human eye and what spectrum has science determined caused the image on the Shroud? Thanks.
78 posted on 03/15/2002 8:58:16 AM PST by Mr. Lucky
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To: sphinx;ZULU
I forgot to add, this was a popular art form at the time the shroud would have been faked if you are inclinded to believe it is a fake. This according to the gentleman who demonstrated this method on one of those debunking shows.
79 posted on 03/15/2002 9:01:14 AM PST by farmfriend
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To: farmfriend
Have a look at "Nuclear Medicine and Its Relevance to the Shroud of Turin" in my reply #62 above. I realize you are a believer, but it seems that these guys may have stumbled onto a method that could have created the image. It's more than a little eerie
80 posted on 03/15/2002 9:07:18 AM PST by Woodman
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