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George W. Bush: No Amnesty for Immigrants - "There's going to be no amnesty"
Associated Press ^ | August 23, 2001 | By SANDRA SOBIERAJ

Posted on 03/13/2002 10:18:46 AM PST by Uncle Bill

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To: Old Hickory
"Render unto Clinton's backer Tyson Chicken all that is Tyson's.

Click Me For Post #127:

It's a tough job stuffing cocaine in a chicken butt, but somebody has to do it

61 posted on 03/13/2002 11:38:24 AM PST by Uncle Bill
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To: Uncle Bill
Thanks for this tidbit, Uncle Bill. Terrific timing!

Deja Vu '92 with a low I.Q. named "W"!

62 posted on 03/13/2002 11:40:08 AM PST by gwynapnudd
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To: uncbob
Is this his version of "READ MY LIPS NO NEW TAXES " ?

It is if you want to interpret it that way.

63 posted on 03/13/2002 11:40:24 AM PST by rdb3
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To: TexKat
She can work here, they won't notice and she would be following preferred accounting methods.
64 posted on 03/13/2002 11:43:15 AM PST by Uncle Bill
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To: Major Malfunction
Oh, I get it. A play on words. No blanket amnesty, says Jorge Boosh. He apparently isn't ruling out a load of mini-amnesties or an ongoing oozing amnesty to make his Coca-Cola huckster buddy happy.

That is the game I believe. Jorge Bush has learned much from Slick Willie in parsing statements with the intent to mislead.

65 posted on 03/13/2002 11:50:36 AM PST by WRhine
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To: Sabertooth
Oh, I agree with you there. The INS needs major house cleaning done, and it needs to enforce the laws that exist. However just becuase it is not doing its job doesn't mean that everyone who has overstayed their visa should be deported.

The numbers I heard were that this bill would affect roughly 200,000 people, and their is the added security that they would then need to stand up and be counted (instead of just going underground).

66 posted on 03/13/2002 11:52:37 AM PST by Woodman
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To: gwynapnudd
Riordan supports amnesty for immigrants - He's the only GOP contender for governor to back Bush's proposal for undocumented residents.

Simon Trounces Riordan, Storms to GOP Nomination

67 posted on 03/13/2002 11:55:41 AM PST by Uncle Bill
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To: ThinkLikeWaterAndReeds
Like you, my faith in GW is certainly higher than it was in his predecessor.

But only marginally so.

He is less a Republican than a politician. He will use every ploy to increase government control over as many facets of day-to-day life as possible. What's really sad is that he may not even realize what he is doing, feeling instead that he is doing everything he can to make America stronger, richer and its citizens happier.

It will be his successor- or his, that will pull all the drawstrings together, confiscating guns from the people, moving them from the 'inefficient' farms and small towns to the big cities where they can be 'cared for' more effectively, and finally, weeding out those who don't measure up to some 'scientifically developed' scale of worth.

Who will go to the ovens? You. Me. Our children whom we have told about real freedom. For we will be the new enemies of the state. We who can poison the minds of the brain-dead faithful. We will have to go.

Are you ready?

69 posted on 03/13/2002 12:04:11 PM PST by oldfart
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To: Old Hickory
You wrote:

"Shhh. You'll be guilty of a hate-crime for highlighting the nationalities of these gentlemen."

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Naw.....I think the following is highlighting.

Librado Gonzalez, 41; Alejandro Perez Matayo Martinez, 32; Salvador Alcazar Martinez, 33; Efrain Alejandro Rios-Ramirez, 21; Angel Gonzales Perez, 20; and Tomas Mendoza Vasquez, 29; were taken into custody.

70 posted on 03/13/2002 12:05:07 PM PST by Osage Orange
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To: Uncle Bill
The problem with a "guest worker" program is the 14th Amendment. The 14th Amendment was not properly ratified, to be sure. But the Courts have been unwilling to make that decision; and so long as it remains enforceable, anyone born within one of these United States is automatically a citizen of that State and of the United States.

That a "guest worker" program is really not in our already quite crowded interest, is also made obvious, every time you get stuck in a gridlock traffic pattern on an expressway. We are already too many for pure comfort.

The partial amnesty--or whatever you want to call it--which got jammed through the House last night--needs to be derailed in the Senate. And what must follow is a full ranging debate on the question of immigration. (See Immigration & The American Future, for a Conservative view in that debate.)

There should be no Amnesty this side of the border. We need to make it clear to all the world that America belongs to her own people. Anything less is the abnegation of Nationhood.

William Flax Return Of The Gods Web Site

71 posted on 03/13/2002 12:16:33 PM PST by Ohioan
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To: Sabertooth
Yes. How, pray tell, does one legalize their labor without legalizing their presence?
72 posted on 03/13/2002 12:18:42 PM PST by Tauzero
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To: Native American Female Vet
Oh, I know there's some voices who want to wall us off from Mexico. They want to build a wall. I say to them, they want to condemn our neighbors to the south in poverty, and I refuse to accept that type of isolationist and protectionist attitude. (Applause.)

And let me say one other thing, one other issue that's important. It speaks to the spirit of our nation. It speaks to whether or not we're going to be true friends with the neighbors to the south. And that's the issue of trucking. There are some people who say we shouldn't allow our friends to the south to send their trucks into the United States. I say that's discrimination against Mexico."

Who is going to tell me that both political parties are not run by the new world order multinational corporate traitors?

73 posted on 03/13/2002 12:29:48 PM PST by majordivit
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To: Clemenza
"I have traveled widely throughout Mexico and have been treated wonderfully by 99% of the people I met. Of course, many on this thread would simply say 'get away from my daughter and my trailer you w-tb-ck!'"

No we wouldn't.

Mexicans in Mexico aren't wetbacks.

Mexico can indeed be a nice place to visit. But we don't want to live there.

74 posted on 03/13/2002 12:30:52 PM PST by Tauzero
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To: Woodman
"34 posts before someone actually looked at the bill without slamming GWB. Thank you Armando."

Too bad the subject of the article wasn't the bill.

75 posted on 03/13/2002 12:33:04 PM PST by Tauzero
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To: oldfart
You point out even more reason to stay armed - stay safe. I intend to continue carrying my Glock G26 as my trusted enemy of evil.
76 posted on 03/13/2002 12:34:55 PM PST by ThinkLikeWaterAndReeds
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To: Willie Green
If you keep your lips shut, you can still use your nose, and discuss issues in a Clintonesque manner. It works. As a matter of fact, it's a American presidential tradition now.
77 posted on 03/13/2002 12:54:48 PM PST by Uncle Bill
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To: LiberteeBell
The fart he cut while they were kissing his ass burned their little lips.
78 posted on 03/13/2002 12:58:55 PM PST by willyone
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To: Uncle Bill
He says it, but will he veto the bill?
79 posted on 03/13/2002 1:00:10 PM PST by PatrioticAmerican
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To: majordivit
"And let me say one other thing, one other issue that's important. It speaks to the spirit of our nation. It speaks to whether or not we're going to be true friends with the neighbors to the south. And that's the issue of trucking. There are some people who say we shouldn't allow our friends to the south to send their trucks into the United States. I say that's discrimination against Mexico."

'Arab terrorists' crossing border: Middle Eastern illegals find easy entrance into U.S. from Mexico

Just a little about trucking and terrorists.

Iraqi reportedly smuggled hundreds from Middle East across Mexican border

The New York Times
Oct. 25, 2001 10:05:00

EL PASO - An Iraqi-born smuggler led hundreds of illegal immigrants from the Middle East across the Mexican border into the United States in the 1990s, prosecution documents filed in a federal conspiracy trial here say.

The Iraqi, George Tajirian, who forged an alliance with a Mexican immigration officer, smuggled Palestinian, Jordanian, Syrian, Iraqi, Yemeni and other undocumented immigrants through Mexico and into the United States, sending them to wade across the Rio Grande or pass border checkpoints with counterfeit travel documents from Greece, Mexico and other nations, the prosecutors said.

Tajirian appears to have had no political or other agenda, and prosecutors have provided no evidence that any of the people smuggled by him had terrorist ties. But prosecutors said he had paid little heed to whether his clients were criminals, merely raising his smuggling fees when he became aware of such complications.

The record of prosecution proceedings against Tajirian and Angel Molina Paramo, the Mexican official who prosecutors say was a major confederate, suggest that the Mexican border has been a thoroughfare for hundreds of Middle Eastern migrants crossing illegally into the United States.

Tajirian, who is a naturalized Mexican citizen, was arrested in Miami in 1998, pleaded guilty to smuggling undocumented foreigners in a plea agreement that erased conspiracy and other charges, and is serving a 13-year sentence. Molina was extradited to Texas this spring. A federal judge here accepted his guilty plea last week, also the result of a plea bargain, and sentencing is set for next month. Tajirian's wife, who is a Mexican citizen, and a fourth suspect, a Lebanese woman who ran Tajirian's travel agency in Quito, Ecuador, are fugitives.

The documents pertaining to Tajirian's smuggling operations were presented to the court as part of the case against Molina and the two fugitives. Among the documents was one in which prosecutors said they collected evidence on 132 illegal immigrants Tajirian smuggled into the United States from 1996 through 1998.

The prosecutors estimated that since he began to build his smuggling organization in 1980 he had led more than 1,000 Middle East natives across the southwest frontier.

Tajirian showed "no scruples" in deciding whom he would smuggle into the United States, Assistant U.S. Attorney J. Brandy Gardes wrote in a brief before Tajirian's sentencing in 1998. One citizen of Yemen whom Tajirian brought to the U.S. in December 1997 was wanted for genocide in South Yemen, the prosecutors said. Tajirian, the prosecutors said, was aware of this and, accordingly, raised his fee. A Syrian native who was smuggled across the frontier in September 1996 had a criminal record in Germany.

"The tightening of our borders and our internal security," Gardes wrote, "is a priority and the desire of the American public. The defendant's criminal activity, through its sheer magnitude and cavalier attitude, struck deeply at these goals."

In documents presented to the court, prosecutors said Tajirian routinely charged clients $10,000 to $15,000 or more. They documented earnings of $230,000 from 1996 through 1998, and estimated that he grossed as much as $2 million during that period. Prosecutors say Tajirian is 60 years old. He says he is 70.

Statistics gathered by the Immigration and Naturalization Service suggest that citizens from countries with majority Islamic populations seek to gain entry to the United States illegally much more frequently at the Canadian border. Last year, American agents detained 254 undocumented immigrants, from 16 Middle Eastern countries, Sudan, Pakistan and Malaysia, at Canadian border checkpoints, according to the INS statistics.

By contrast, at the Mexican border, agents detained 90 undocumented immigrants last year from countries with majority Islamic populations: Egypt, Iran, Iraq, Jordan and Pakistan. The Mideast migrants were moving in a human tide that was overwhelmingly Latin. Some 99.9 percent of the 1.64 million undocumented immigrants detained at the southwest border last year were from Mexico and 16 other Latin countries.

The documents presented here detail more than any other case the nature of the smuggling pipeline by which illegal Middle Eastern immigrants cross the Southwestern border.

Tajirian, who was born in Baghdad, came to the United States and settled in Detroit, where he was convicted in the late 1970s for illegal possession of visas and served eight months in prison. Almost immediately after his release, Tajirian began building his smuggling network, prosecutors said.

He recruited Middle Eastern clients in Jordan, Syria, Palestine and Greece, the prosecutors said, and he established travel agencies in Havana and Mexico City as well as Quito. In a typical smuggling transaction, Tajirian would recruit his clients, arrange lodging for them in Greece, Havana, Quito and Mexico City, and eventually arrange for local smugglers in northern Mexico to bring them into the United States, usually at El Paso or Laredo in Texas or through Tijuana, south of San Diego.

Bush Issues Veto Threat for Mexican Truck Ban

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This Should answer ALL of your quesions regarding Pres. Bush's Mexico / Canada border policy

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U.S. Security Chief Says Mexico Border Control Outdated-Proposes Express Route For Low risk Crossers

MEXICO AND THE CUBAN TERRORIST REGIME CLOSE RANKS

Cuba and the Terror Coalition

Powell Praises Castro

Ashcroft Warns of Terrorism by Truck

The next wave of attacks will come from truck bombs

Semi-fuel truck was attempted to be highjacked in North Carolina this afternoon by 2 middle eastern men


"You're either with us or against us in the fight against terror."
George W. Bush - Source

China's Silent Invasion
"Mexico's top drug trafficking cartel, run by the Arellano Felix brothers in Tijuana, is working closely with the Chinese. According to Jamie Dettmer, writing in the August 23 issue of Insight magazine, ships arriving in Mexico from China may contain "more than illegal immigrants." The Chinese are pumping people and supplies into Mexico, and the cargo is considered so sensitive that it is "often under the apparent protection of Chinese and Mexican naval vessels."

"Setting aside the issue of dangerous drugs and illegal immigration, the reason we should worry about drug and alien smuggling into this country, and the reason that no effort should be spared in making our borders impenetrable, is because nuclear and biological weapons can be smuggled into the country by the same routes that illegal narcotics are smuggled. According to Colonel Stanislav Lunev, highest ranking defector from the Main Intelligence Directorate of the Russian General Staff, narcotics trafficking is a way of establishing secure pathways into the United States. If there is a hole in our border due to corruption by drug traffickers, that hole can be used to ship more than narcotics. It can be used to ship suitcase nuclear bombs."

80 posted on 03/13/2002 1:11:40 PM PST by Uncle Bill
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