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A Warning for Americans: A Message from a South African
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Posted on 03/10/2002 2:21:18 AM PST by Jakarta ex-pat

People used to say that South Africa was 20 years behind the rest of the Western world. Television, for example, came late to South Africa (but so did pornography and the gay rights movement).

Today, however, South Africa may be the grim model of the future Western world, for events in America reveals trends chillingly similar to those that destroyed our country.

America's structures are of "Western Culture". Your Congress, your lobbying groups, your free speech, and the way ordinary Americans either get involved or ignore politics are peculiarly your "Western Culture", not the way most of the world operates. But the fact that only about a third of Americans deem it important to vote is horrifying in light of how close you are to losing your Western character.

Writing letters to the press, manning stands at county fairs, hosting fund-raising dinners, attending rallies, setting up conferences, writing your Congressman -- that is what you know, and what you are comfortable with. Those are the political methods you've created for yourselves to keep your country on track and to ensure political accountability,with freedom and justice for all.

But woe to you if -- or more likely, when -- the rules change. Americans may soon find themselves unable or unwilling to stand up to challenge the new political methods that will be the inevitable result of the ethnic metamorphosis now taking place in America. Unable to cope with the new rules of the game -- violence, mob riots, intimidation through accusations of racism, demands for proportionality based on racial numbers, and all the other social and political weapons used by the have-nots to bludgeon treasure and power from the haves -- Americans, like others before them, will no doubt cave in. They will compromise away their independence and ultimately their way of life.

That is exactly what happened in South Africa. I know, because I was there and I saw it happen.

Faced with revolution in the streets, strikes, civil unrest and the sheer terror and murder practiced by Nelson Mandela's African National Congress (ANC), the white government simply capitulated in order to achieve "peace."Westerners need peace. They need order and stability. They are builders and planners. But what we got was peace of the grave for our society.

The Third World is different -- different peoples with different pasts and different cultures. Yet Westerners continue to mistake the psychology of the Third World and its peoples. Sierra Leone and Zimbabwe are perfect examples of those mistakes. Sierra Leone is in perpetual civil war, and Zimbabwe -- once thriving, stable Rhodesia -- is looting the very people who feed the country. Yet Westerners do not admit that the same kind of savagery could come to America when enough immigrants of the right type assert themselves. The fact is, Americans are sitting ducks for Third World exploitation of the Western conscience of compassion.

Those in the West who forced South Africa to surrender to the ANC and its leaders did not consider Africa to be the dangerous, corrupt, and savage place it is now in Zimbabwe and South Africa. Those Western politicians now have a similar problem on their own doorsteps: the demand for power and treasure from the non-Western peoples inside the realm.

It is already too late for South Africa, but not for America if enough people strengthen their spine and take on the race terrorists, the armies of the "politically correct" and, most dangerous of all, the craven politicians who believe "compassionate conservatism" will buy them a few more votes, a few more days of peace.

South Africans, you should remember, have been in that part of Africa for the same amount of time whites have inhabited North America; yet ultimately South Africans voted for their own suicide. We are not so very different from you.

We lost our country through skillful propaganda, pressure from abroad ,Great Britan the UN (not least from the U.S.A.), with unrelenting charges of "oppression" and "racism," and the shrewd assessment by African tyrants that the white man has many Achilles' heels, the most significant of which are his compassion, his belief in the "equality of man," and his "love your neighbor" philosophy -- none of which are part of the Third World's history.

The mainline churches played a big role in the demise of Western influence throughout Africa, too; especially in South Africa. Today's tyrants were yesterday's mission-school proteges. Many dictators in Africa were men of the cloth. They knew their clerical collars would deflect criticism and obsfucate their real aims, which had nothing whatever to do with the "brotherhood of man."

Other tyrants, like the infamous Idi Amin, were trained and schooled by the whites themselves, at Oxford, Cambridge, and Harvard. After receiving the best from the West, they unleashed a resentful bloodlust against their benefactors.

From what I have seen and read thus far, I fear Americans will capitulate just as we did. Americans are, generally, a "compassionate" lot. They don't want to quarrel or obstruct the claims of those who believe they were wronged. They like peace and quiet, and they want to compromise and be nice.

A television program aired in South Africa showed a town meeting in Southern California where people met to complain about falling standards in the schools. Many who politely spoke at the meeting clearly resented the influx of Mexican immigrants into their community. When a handful of Chicanos at the back of the hall shouted and waved their hands at them, the "compassionate" simply shrunk back into their seats rather than tell the noisemakers to shut up. They didn't want to quarrel.

In America, the courts are still the final arbiters of society's laws. But what will happen when your future majority refuses to abide by court rulings -- as in Zimbabwe? What will happen when the courts are filled with their people, or their sympathizers? In California, Proposition 187 has already been overturned.

What will you do when the future nonwhite majority decides to change the names of streets and cities? What will you do when they no longer want to use money that carries the portraits of old, dead white "racists" and slave owners? Will you cave in, like you did on flying the Confederate flag? What about the national anthem? Your official language?

Don't laugh. When the "majority" took over in South Africa, the first targets were our national symbols.

In another generation, America may well face what Africa is now experiencing -- invasions of private land by the "have-nots;" the decline in health care quality; roads and buildings in disrepair; the banishment of your history from the education of the young; the revolutionization of your justice system.

In South Africa today, only 9 percent of murders end up in jail. Court dockets are regularly purchased and simply disappear. Magistrates can be bribed as can the prison authorities, making escapes commonplace. Vehicle and airplane licenses are regularly purchased, and forged school and university certificates are routine.

What would you think of the ritual slaughter of animals in your neighbor's backyard? How do you clean up the blood and entrails that litter your suburban streets? How do you feel about the practice of witchcraft, in which the parts of young girls and boys are needed for "medicinal" purposes? How do you react to the burning of witches?

Don't laugh. All that is quite common in South Africa today.

Don't imagine that government officials caught with their fingers in the till will be punished. Excuses -- like the need to overcome generations of white racism -- will be found to exonerate the guilty.

In fact, known criminals will be voted into office because of a racial solidarity among the majority that doesn't exist among the whites. When Ian Smith of the old Rhodesia tried to stand up to the world, white South African politicians were among the Westerners pressuring him to surrender.

When Robert Mugabe of Zimbabwe murders his political opponents, ignores unfavorable court decisions, terrorizes the population and siphons off millions from the state treasury for himself and his friend, South Africa's new President Thabo Mbeki holds his hand and declares his support. That just happened a few weeks ago.

Your tax dollars will go to those who don't earn and don't pay. In South Africa, organizations that used to have access to state funds such as old age homes, the arts, and veterans' services, are simply abandoned.

What will happen is that Western structures in America will be either destroyed from without, or transformed from within, used to suit the goals of the new rulers. And they will reign either through terror, as in Zimbabwe today, or exert other corrupt pressures to obtain, or buy votes. Once power is in the hands of aliens, don't expect loyalty or devotion to principle from those whose jobs are at stake. One of the most surprising and tragic components of the disaster in South Africa is how many previously anti-ANC whites simply moved to the other side.

Once you lose social, cultural, and political dominance, there is no getting it back again.

Unfortunately, your habits and values work against you. You cannot fight terror and street mobs with letters to your Congressmen. You cannot fight accusations of racism with prayer meetings. You cannot appeal to the goodness of your fellow man when the fellow man despises you for your weakness and hacks off the arms and legs of his political opponents.To survive, Americans must never lose the power they now enjoy to people from alien cultures. Above all, don't put yourselves to the test of fighting only when your backs are against the wall. You will probably fail.

Millions around the world want your good life. But make no mistake: They care not for the high-minded ideals of Jefferson and Washington, and your Constitution or Bill of Rights. What they want are your possessions, your power, and your status.

And they already know that their allies among you, the "human rights activists," the skillful lawyers and the left-wing politicians will fight for them, and not for you. They will exploit your compassion and your Christian charity, and your good will.

They have studied you, Mr. and Mrs. America, and they know your weaknesses well.

They know what to do.

Do you?


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To: RAY
Yeah, it's entropy, and governments and cultures seem to be as subject to it as any other human construction.
41 posted on 03/10/2002 5:18:33 AM PST by Yardstick
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To: sunnshine2
see post #38
42 posted on 03/10/2002 5:22:37 AM PST by robnoel
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To: Jakarta ex-pat
That is exactly what happened in South Africa. I know, because I was there and I saw it happen

This author is very convincing. Scary stuff.

43 posted on 03/10/2002 5:25:02 AM PST by Republic
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To: sunnshine2
The fate of the native SA, "the Boer" was sealed when they were conquered by the British. One must admire them nonetheless for their futile struggle against the worlds most voracious power at the time. The willingness of the English to starve and murder their women and children turned the day.
44 posted on 03/10/2002 5:25:34 AM PST by nkycincinnatikid
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To: mcook4
I think it's a given that there were differences between pre-Mandela South Africa and the USA, but the article posted was a warning about the similarities in terms of the future.

Whatever our faults, the metamorphosis mentioned in this article is taking place here, and if we don't want what happened in South Africa to happen here, we need somehow to change course.

The outcome of O.J. Simpson's trial, with one of the black jurors raising the right fist of solidarity at the announcement of the verdict is a perfect example of what this article addresses. I think it also applies to the Cincinnati riots, as well as others, where rioters basically got away with criminal behavior because of their skin color. To those who let people like Jesse Jackson and his gang speak for them, equality doesn't mean equality; it means getting even.

So you and others can worry about how things weren't fair for blacks in the past, whether here or elsewhere (personally, I think their conditions were deplorable) but what's at issue is our society, the destruction of which - such as what happened in South Africa - is not justified by past behavior.

45 posted on 03/10/2002 5:26:15 AM PST by Marauder
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To: Jakarta ex-pat
Put together this story with unlimited numbers of illegal immigrees. Many parts of America are already ghetto areas, and know firsthand rioting and general lawlessness.
46 posted on 03/10/2002 5:34:03 AM PST by Don Myers
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To: Marauder
Right! Like a flood it seems, it comes. Those giving this county away can be proud of themselves as they are stewed. To those who now come, the founding principles mean nothing.
48 posted on 03/10/2002 5:35:05 AM PST by RAY
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To: sunnshine2
Are you another product of public school system....where did you get your information ...ANC?
49 posted on 03/10/2002 5:42:15 AM PST by robnoel
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To: WyCoKsRepublican
"Payback..." Sounds sort of like the reparations movement.
51 posted on 03/10/2002 6:17:39 AM PST by Freedom56v2
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To: LadyDoc
"live in luxury in their enclaves and ignore the nearby slums".....

Perhaps the author was being kind enough to not remind us of conditions that exist in your own backyard. I do not live in a slum, and I venture not many on FR do. Two blocks away from me are slums and to say I ignore them is extreme. This borders on the insanity that we in the western world forced onto other countries in the name of "compassion". The type of government that South Africa had cannot be blamed for all of the ills now found in that country.

The author is trying to pass along a warning to people of the U.S. To attack his background is to ignore his message at our own peril.

52 posted on 03/10/2002 6:50:21 AM PST by cynicom
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To: Godel
"It never ceases to amaze me that people living in third world countries whose ancestors never built anything worth noticing feel they're entitled to everything ever produced anywhere in the world by anyone."

In the late '60s the father of a friend was brought to South Africa by a prospective employer. This guy was more of an Archie Bunker type than "bleeding heart liberal". He was revolted by the normal everyday treatment of the blacks by their white "masters" (Master was, he said, the form of address black employees were required to use when responding to their white employers). He said he couldn't wait to get out of there.

Later in the early '80s a close friend went to South Africa as a missionary (again, no liberal) she said the whites had sown the seeds of their own destruction. It was not only the men who went to the cities to work but also the women. The people left in areas reserved for blacks were those too old or sick to work and children. She told a story of a white women who was present when her black maid was informed that her child had died (back in the black homeland). The maid cried and the white women said "Oh look, she cries just like us."

What you fail to grasp is that the blacks in South Africa were not fat and lazy sitting with their hands out demanding the fruits of the labor of others, but the right to live with their families and some of the fruit their labor had produced.
53 posted on 03/10/2002 7:11:00 AM PST by lucysmom
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To: Marauder
Marauder.....

Your comment about the OJ trial is right on. That sad event should have been an awakening for all Americans. Apologists such as we have here, say nothing about that event or what it portends. Neither do they address the African dictators mentioned by the author, rather they repeat the old tired communist/socilist/liberal lines about the African repression by the white man.

Anytime the liberals are faced with facts, they deflect the message by attacking the messanger.

54 posted on 03/10/2002 7:15:43 AM PST by cynicom
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To: sunnshine2
With all due respect, to me your reasoning seems rather distorted when one considers the facts.
55 posted on 03/10/2002 7:27:19 AM PST by cynicom
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To: LadyDoc
that 30-40% of the US Army are African Americans.

WRONG
56 posted on 03/10/2002 7:38:32 AM PST by uncbob
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To: cascademountaineer
Right on! This was posted months ago or something very similar. However, a good reminder. Thanks.
57 posted on 03/10/2002 7:42:51 AM PST by mulligan
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To: sunnshine2
Welcome to FR. Here random use of the word Nazi is very much respected as confirming the wisdom, fairness and high moral basis of your opinion. The correctness of your opinion is therefor no longer open to dispute.
58 posted on 03/10/2002 7:44:40 AM PST by nkycincinnatikid
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To: Jakarta ex-pat
Aids will take care of black Africa. They fit the mold of what one of our former Secretarys of Agriculture said, all they want is loose shoes and a tight p....
59 posted on 03/10/2002 7:58:33 AM PST by hgro
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To: *AfricaWatch;*Immigrant_list;*Clash of Civilizatio

60 posted on 03/10/2002 9:39:17 AM PST by Libertarianize the GOP
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