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Van Dam Residence Photos, Close up analysis of Americas Most Wanted Website Information!
Rental Connection-San Diego ^ | March 5, 2002 | Nedthan Johns

Posted on 03/05/2002 8:04:09 PM PST by FresnoDA

VAN DAM HOUSE PHOTOS

Very interesting, when compared with details provided by the
VD's on Americas Most Wanted website.  www.amw.com



neighborssidedoor.jpg (271237 bytes)
Side Door, Open the night of Feb. 1

The photos below are of the Van Dam backyard and show the sliding glass door reported to have been found open the morning Danielle was reported missing. Detectives say this is likely to be the way a possible kidnapper may have entered the home.

This is the original post, from the February 9, 2002 broadcast of Americas Most Wanted.  As of March 4, 2002, it was still posted on the AMW website.

Additional Quirks:

Danielle was last seen wearing blue flowered pajamas with flowers
Her favorite colors are pink and purple
Danielle belongs to her local Brownie troop
Family friends have set up a website at: http://daniellemissing.tripod.com 

San Diego police are scouring the Sabre Springs area for 7-year-old Danielle van Dam.  Police say Danielle's parents, Damon and Brenda van Dam, reported her missing when they discovered Danielle was not in her room at about 9 a.m. Saturday, February 2, 2002.

Damon told police he put Danielle and her two brothers to bed at around 10:30 Friday night while Brenda was out celebrating with friends until about 2 a.m. Saturday, a send-off for a woman who was leaving the area, detectives said.  When Brenda arrived home with four friends at about 2 am, police say they ate pizza with Damon and talked for about an hour.  Shortly after the friends left, police say Damon and Brenda told them they noticed lights blinking on their burglar alarm panel and found a sliding glass door and a side garage door open. Police say the alarm was not set, but the panel is a type that indicates when doors and windows are opened and shut at all times. The couple told police they closed the doors and went to bed, and did not check on the children

Saturday morning, police say the couple told them a friend stopped by at about 9 am to see if Danielle could come out and play.  Damon and Brenda told police that they thought Danielle was still sleeping and that Brenda went to wake Danielle.  That is when police say the couple discovered Danielle was missing from her room and called 9-1-1.

Police began investigating immediately, using helicopters, horses and dogs to search the area canyons for Danielle, a second-grader at Creekside Elementary School in Sabre Springs. Officers also conducted door-to-door searches and provided the Border Patrol and Customs Service with photos of Danielle to keep watch for her at the border.  Detectives additionally interviewed family members, neighbors, schoolmates and friends about the disappearance, hoping to develop leads, but had no luck. 

Danielle was last seen wearing blue pajamas with flowers. She is white, 4 feet tall and weighs about 58 pounds. She has blue eyes and blond hair.

Police say at this point the parents are not considered suspects and have been extremely cooperative with investigators.  Police are considering one of the van Dam's neighbors to be the prime suspect.  Police have searched his home and impounded his vehicles.  At the time of this writing, an arrest has not been made.


The most recent Television Interview with the VD's contradicts what they told SDPD and AMW just 2 weeks ago!!  The March 2 interview will be the third major revision to the events of the evening of Feb. 1-2, 2002. 

This is the original post, from the February 9, 2002 broadcast of Americas Most Wanted.  As of March 4, 2002, it was still posted on the AMW website.


Recap of the Americas Most Wanted MISSING PERSONS REPORT…..

1.                  Kids Put To Bed at 10:30 P.M., by Damon VD.

2.                  Brenda arrives at VD residence at 2:00 A.M. with FOUR FRIENDS

3.                  Brenda and her friends "The Four Amigos" eat pizza with Damon, and “talk” for about one hour.

4.                  3:00 A.M., "The Four Amigos" depart the VD residence.

5.                  Damon and Brenda notice the alarm lights blinking.

6.                  Damon and Brenda notice BOTH the sliding glass door AND the side garage door are open.

7.                  Damon and Brenda note that alarm was not “SET” but was only in the monitoring mode.

8.                  Damon and Brenda tell police they closed all doors, and went to bed.

9.                  Damon and Brenda DID NOT CHECK on the condition of the children.

10.              Approximate time, 3:15 A.M.


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To: Amore
we'll be good...promise. Don't worry.
121 posted on 03/06/2002 3:47:52 PM PST by Mrs.Liberty
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To: spectre
Crowds Gather to Witness Cross of Light
122 posted on 03/06/2002 3:55:51 PM PST by MizSterious
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
Kim, what happened to the threads we had up last night? Were they pulled off? And if so, WHY?
123 posted on 03/06/2002 4:08:53 PM PST by RangeRatt
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To: All
Wednesday March 06 06:39 PM EST

Where To Put Danielle's Flowers Sparks Row

People who placed mementos near the East County site where the body of 7-year-old Danielle van Dam was found are angry that the makeshift memorial has been dismantled.

Volunteers Monday removed a carload of flowers, stuffed animals, wreaths and photographs placed at the Dehesa Road site by hundreds of people who visited the location following last week's discovery (news - web sites) of the partially decomposed body.

"How dare they?" Cindy Moore of Spring Valley told the San Diego Union-Tribune.

Although Danielle's parents have requested that people remember their daughter at a Sabre Springs neighborhood park near their home, they did not request that the Dehesa Road memorial be taken down, a family spokesperson told the newspaper.

The van Dams requested Tuesday that any additional flowers and stuffed animals dropped off at the East County location be left in place, according to the Union-Tribune.

The volunteers who removed the memorial on Monday said they were acting on their own and that they had taken the mementos to the park in Sabre Springs, the newspaper reported.

"They didn't leave anything," said Moore's sister, Connie Munzer. "It's upsetting. It's not right."

Moore said that people have the right to grieve for the slain second-grader in a location of their own choosing and that Sabre Springs is a long drive from East County.

"Nothing will ever change that her body was dumped in this spot," Moore said. "There will never be a time that I come up here that I won't think of her."

Meanwhile, the 4th District Court of Appeal is still deciding whether to release search warrant affidavits of the investigation into David Westerfield.

Westerfield's lawyer, Steven Feldman, also filed another request for a gag order to provent investigators and prosecutors from talking to the media. His first request, made during Westerfield's arraignment last week, was put on hold. A hearing on the new request is scheduled for friday.

Source

124 posted on 03/06/2002 4:10:11 PM PST by MizSterious
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To: All
From the article in #124:

"Meanwhile, the 4th District Court of Appeal is still deciding whether to release search warrant affidavits of the investigation into David Westerfield.

Westerfield's lawyer, Steven Feldman, also filed another request for a gag order to provent investigators and prosecutors from talking to the media. His first request, made during Westerfield's arraignment last week, was put on hold. A hearing on the new request is scheduled for friday.

Interesting...

125 posted on 03/06/2002 4:20:02 PM PST by MizSterious
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To: FresnoDA
Danielle's mother said she was too dignified to go over to Westerfield's two-story house to express her anger

I'm a very dignified woman (at least I like to think so) BUT, if my daughter was stolen from me, you better believe dignity would not be my first thought when dealing with the so called perp.

Unless, of course, I knew more to the story...

126 posted on 03/06/2002 4:22:46 PM PST by It's me
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To: golitely
That's lame.
127 posted on 03/06/2002 4:48:21 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez
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To: Cu Roi
It's going to be real difficult for Westerfield to explain away the blood on his clothes and in his van, the child porn that was allegedly found in his computer isn't going to help him any, the fact that he failed a polygraph test (even if not admitted as evidence, people know about that) isn't going to help either.

Now, the police have already checked everyone that had been in the house that night, as well as the van Dams (we don't know everything that the police knows) and at this time , they are not suspects.

One last thing, Westerfield's lawyer wil, also need to explain away why DW didn't simply call the cops when he found Danielle's body. Before the blood got on his shirt, before his fingerprints got on her.

That is what reasonable people do when they find a dead body, they call the police and do not touch anything.

Westerfield acted like a guilty party acts, he dumped the body and tried to clean-up.

He's fried.

128 posted on 03/06/2002 5:20:47 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez
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To: spectre
"He spent months defending the virgin in the mirror?"

Liar

129 posted on 03/06/2002 5:22:52 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez
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To: analog
I wish the moderator would delete them and kick freaks like 'FresnoDA' off FR as well.
analog member since October 28th, 2001


I am one of the few atheist conservatives on this board (although since I first wrote this I've been pleased to meet many other conservative and libertarian folks who share my views). I enjoy receiving torrents of abuse from all sorts of folks who believe in the supernatural, and want me to live by their sacred scrolls. I like to think I give as good as I get. Reasoned debate doesn't have much of an impact here on FR anymore, so I've also taken to screaming and shouting like other folks and I find it wonderfully cathartic.

Despite this increasingly bad signal/noise ratio on FR, this is still the place I come now and then to get my assumptions challenged and to find out the hot issues of the day from the wider conservative viewpoint. It also reminds me how wide the spectrum of views really is in the GOP and the whole conservative movement worldwide.  

Wow, when I first heard your comments, I was slightly hurt, and offended, but after reading your bio, I am honored to have your like rail against me.

God Bless You, analog!!!........FresnoDA

130 posted on 03/06/2002 5:38:49 PM PST by FresnoDA
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To: golitely
Bump to your memorable post, #92!!! awesome and correct. When a mental midget loses the match, they suddenly complain because they are wrestling in the wrong weight class. Seems to be a lot of that happening here today.
131 posted on 03/06/2002 5:44:54 PM PST by FresnoDA
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To: golitely;spectre;Amore;Bigg Red;Travis McGee;BunnySlippers;Doughtyone;Hillary's Lovely Legs...
David Westerfield was arrested on charges of kidnapping and burglary. Police say Danielle's blood was found on his clothing and in his motor home.
 
Police tried to talk with Westerfield without his attorney
 
by NBC 7/39 News Staff
SAN DIEGO, March 6 –    A San Diego police captain confirmed Wednesday that two detectives tried to talk with the man accused of killing Danielle van Dam when his lawyer was not present to represent him.

Lawyers for David Westerfield filed papers in court Tuesday saying that the detectives attempted to talk with Westerfield last Wednesday, the day after he was charged with kidnapping and killing 7-year-old Danielle van Dam. The lawyers called the action “outrageous government misconduct,” and wrote that it jeopardized Westerfield’s right to effective counsel.

Defense experts say the law is clear: once a suspect has a lawyer, police and prosecutors should not attempt to talk with the defendant without getting permission from the lawyer. Some say the incident could harm the case against Westerfield.

"It sends a lot of messages, in addition to laying the groundwork for potentially asking the court to dismiss the charges because of this outrageous governmental conduct," criminal defense specialist Kerry Steigerwalt said.

Wednesday, Police Captain Ron Newman told NBC 7/39 that two detectives did request to speak with Westerfield, but he apparently refused to talk with them and called his lawyer to report the attempted interview.

"I have confirmed that that did happen,” Capt. Newman told NBC 7/39. “I question the appropriateness of it. I'm sure the detectives felt that it was the appropriate thing to do, given the set of circumstances that they were under. But we will be handling that internally. So it's not something that we would normally do. In fact, we should not be doing it, frankly.”

Another legal expert told NBC 7/39 that if police did not actually talk with Westerfield that day, there's little damage to the case against him.

132 posted on 03/06/2002 6:13:30 PM PST by FresnoDA
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To: RangeRatt
Which ones? I know of a couple from I think Monday that were removed but the mod never told any of us why. Do they ever? If they do, it opens them up to debates.
133 posted on 03/06/2002 6:15:49 PM PST by Freedom2specul8
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To: golitely

There have been problems with this investigation from the start.


THE CRIME SCENE was not secured or preserved. The police allowed the van Dams and Westerfield to remain in their homes while the evidence people were there, friends, family, press,  etc., were allowed in and that destroyed the reliability of most of the forensic evidence.

Think about it........FresnoDA


134 posted on 03/06/2002 6:22:46 PM PST by FresnoDA
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To: all
I was just reading the comments about mary...and luis and SW...I am really sorry to see this has been a feud that has been going on for a long time. I just assumed that it was only relevant to the van dam threads. SO, I guess lines have been drawn eh? Once mad and bad..always mad and bad? Life is too short to "hold grudges, whine, attack, be hateful and spend time outdoing one and other". That is really awful. For all the time you spend being snotty with one and other, you are spending less time educating, sharing and learning. What better way to stifle the truth, than to conquer and divide from within..
135 posted on 03/06/2002 6:23:45 PM PST by Freedom2specul8
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To: FresnoDA, Luis Gonzalez, golitely, spectre
Please take a moment and read #135
136 posted on 03/06/2002 6:26:00 PM PST by Freedom2specul8
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To: FresnoDA
Another legal expert told NBC 7/39 that if police did not actually talk with Westerfield that day, there's little damage to the case against him.

That's a big: "Duh!"

(No offense to you, Fresno, but, gee, NBC it's a nonstory.
I guess the least little thing on this case is big news.)

137 posted on 03/06/2002 6:31:37 PM PST by Amore
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To: spectre
What you just read is an "exclusion" in most motor insurer's policies. It's in the small print. So you were saying about who's to blame if something valuable is left unlocked?

Irrelevant. Luis was referring to the issue of criminal liability, not ability to recover on an insurance policy.

Here's what Luis actually wrote: "The case being tried is the murder of Danielle van Dam, not any criminal charges against the van Dams. Think about it for a second, even if you leave your car unlocked, with the keys in the ignition, the person who takes it gets arrested for theft.

Even if the van Dams are found to be negligent by not checking on Danielle, or even for inviting Westerfield into the house, the killer is still 100% responsible for the murder."

If you're debating whether the van Dams can recover on their daughter's life insurance policy, then your point is well taken. But if you're discussing criminal liability for car theft in Luis' hypothetical or murder in this case, then Luis' statements are correct. Auto theft and murder are crimes. Contributory negligence is a civil tort law concept and has no applicability to criminal law.

138 posted on 03/06/2002 7:00:07 PM PST by William Wallace
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
I was just reading the comments about mary

Mary who?

139 posted on 03/06/2002 7:32:50 PM PST by Mrs.Liberty
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