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Posted on 03/04/2002 4:01:26 PM PST by terilyn
Gunman Fires on Tel Aviv Restaurant
Mon Mar 4, 7:50 PM ET
JERUSALEM (AP) - A gunman opened fire at a Tel Aviv restaurant early Tuesday, wounding at least nine people, police and rescue workers said.
The identity of the gunman was not immediately known, but Israeli radio stations were calling it a terror attack.
He is the author of the past 18 months of death and carnage!
This most foul little cockroach should not be allowed to live another minute.
Of course, always blame the Jew.
What a real sc*mb*g!
Always a giveway that the original argument makes no sense. "No, prove my theorem is wrong!" That's not how it works.
No, you made the assertion. Now back it up with facts.
He didn't get an M-16 into the restaurant. He stood outside shooting into the restaurant.
Here's part of an article about the terrorist attack from the Jerusalem Post:
The gunman, standing on a pedestrian footbridge and armed with an M-16 semiautomatic rifle, opened fire first at diners in the "Seafood Market," emptying one magazine at the eatery.
He then changed clips and began firing at the nearby "Mifgash Ha'Steakiya," both located near the intersection of Begin, Lincoln, and Yitzhak Sadeh streets and the offices of the Ma'ariv Hebrew daily.
The terrorist, Ibrahim Mohammed Hasuna, 20, then ran into the second restaurant and began shooting stabbing diners, according to Army Radio.
Hasuna was a resident of the Jabalya refugee camp in the Gaza Strip, and moved to the Ramallah vicinity several years ago.
The Fatah Aksa Brigades took responsibility for the attack in a statement released to the Qatar-based Al-Jazeera network.
I doubt if the Palestinians in Bethlehem and Nazareth would welcome Christians with open arms, either, so scratch out the Christmas season as well.
Are you familiar with the *Samson Option* as a part of the Israeli national policy on the use of nuclear weapons?
*Before the State of Israel will permit another Holocaust, we will tear down the pillars of the Temple of Humanity....*
-archy-/-
I note that you both also avoid any mention of substantive matters. There is a reason for that - you two, as with DennisW, are attempting to change the subject because it makes you mighty uncomfortable.
True
"...the numbers are coming in..and people who have careers in answering for the economy are bringing heavy pressure to bear on Sharon concerning this.
This is legit..Bibi Netanyahu has better ties to business enterprise and economic growth..waiting in the wings.."
That I don't know about. The violence I see coming will involve significant mobilization of reserves as I doubt the Israeli govt. will use NBC weapons on the Palestinians even if Hezbollah starts firing rockets from Lebanon. And such a mobilization will have a drastic effect on Israel's economy.
"Sharon knows He must act soon..or see His reign ended."
I disagree. He is pretty much paralyzed due to his need for the Labor Party coaltion. They have to be willing to let Sharon act, which is why I've been focusing on attacks against the secular Israeli Jews, as opposed to settlers and the Israeli Taliban. IMO, only when the seculars feel threatened will Labor let Sharon do anything effective. Though another way for the Palestinians to set off Labor would be to use children as suicide bombers. At that poin the Palestinians would have thoroughly dehumanized themselves.
Keep in mind that the U.S. has gotten in that frame of mind - we're familiar with it. The U.S. govt. was going to spray Japanese cities from the air with poison gas had the A-Bomb not produced surrender, and that decision was made in June 1945 before Allied SIGINT decyphered the Imperial GHQ order to Field Marshall Teruachi in July 1945 to begin genocide of all the Allied civilians and POW's they could catch starting with the impending British invasion of Malaya/Singapore. See:
http://www.inet-one.com/cypherpunks/dir.1997.12.25-1997.12.31/msg00086.html
I've read the Military History Quarterly article by Polmar & Allen (both reputable historians) in question. The discussion at this URL is a fair summary of what was about to happen.
The Japanese side of the war in the Pacific escaped being uglier than the Nazis' only by a narrow margin. I did not exaggerate in my first post in this thread by saying that the Japanese surrendered when the Emperor realized we really would kill all of them. The Japanese's suicidal bravery and atrocities gave America the political will to commit genocide. We really would have done it.
The Palestinians are IMO getting the Israelis into that dark place too.
"There is nothing like money concerns to finally get a Jew focused."
That is racist and I wouldn't be surprised if the moderators kill your post.
"....Israel is beginning to find its focus..the Palestinians would go for white flags now if they had any brains...but they don't..they only have hatred.
Israeli's have a very realistic philosophy ..."We wish to exist..and we wish to enjoy life"...this thinking will be hopping into Apaches.. F-16's..Merkavas...and M-113's soon.
Conflict is resolved by the side with the greater will and resolve....Israel will win this conflict..they understand all too well whats at stake"
Not yet.
Better.
No. I said that the yeshiva concept, however innocent its origin, changed over time to a breeding ground for religious fanaticism, and that the madrassa concept later imitated this process. Sure lots, probably, most, of both retain their originally intended function, and many doubtless expel the criminally inclined. And there is a considerable difference in degree between the worst (in this sense) of the yeshivas vs. the worst of the madrassas.
But not a difference in kind. Religious fanatics are far more alike than they are different. IMO the yeshivas are becoming, if they are not already, a significant threat to Israeli national security. But Israeli politics is such that nothing will be done about it until (if then) they become a threat to American national security.
The Israelis have their own Taliban and madrassas, and had them first. Osama bin Laden and his kind used the Israeli nutballs and their yeshivas as role models. That's right. The role model of the private Islamic religious schools, called "maddrassas", which are the secret recruiting ground for Muslim terrorists such as Al Qaeda, were the earlier created Jewish Israeli schools called "yeshivas".
You brought this subject matter. You were the one to change the topic.
Please provide substantiation to this assertion. There's no need to post entire documents for your documentation, but you can if you want to, although links are acceptable.
You are hallucinating. Provide the names of all the victims of ultra-Orthodox suicide attacks or terrorist bombings. How many Israeli seculars have been murdered last year by ultra-Orthodox terrorists? Please list all the places and times where such attacks have taken place, if you can't then put away your crack pipe.
Earth to Thud! You were asked to provide some names, dates and places of ultra-Orthodox yeshiva terrorist attacks against secular Jews and non-Jews. You make these weird statements and then you run and hide.
No, I had a short between the chair and the keyboard. Will you accept my humble apologies?
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There were press reports today of an extremist Jewish group claiming responsibility for bombing a Palestinian school in retaliation for recent Palestinian attacks.
Oh yeah, you missed the followup reports that it turned out to be another group of Arabs who thought it would be a neat way to ice their rivals and blame it on the Jews.
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