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Foreigners Must Learn German Or Be Expelled From Austria
DeutschePresse - no url yet | 3/4/02

Posted on 03/04/2002 5:01:27 AM PST by NativeNewYorker

Vienna (dpa) - Immigrants from outside the E.U. will have to pass German courses within four years or else be expelled from Austria, the government said on Monday.

Foreigners arriving in the country would also have to show a health certificate.

Presenting a new ``integration contract'', the government said the foreigners would have to pay 50 per cent of the cost of the language courses themselves.

The other half would be paid out of public funds or by the foreigner's employer. |

The German courses would be mandatory for non-E.U. citizens who had arrived in Austria after January 1, 1998, said top government officials including Interior Minister Ernst Strasser.

The courses would be 100 hours at least, and the cost nearly 400 euros (345 dollars) per person. Taught would be not only the German language, but also ``basic organizational processes, and knowledge of the country and state''.

If the immigrant completed the course in 18 months, the residence permit would be extended for two years, if not, for one year.

Those failing after 18 months would be sanctioned. They would have to pay 75 per cent of the further courses themselves, and after two years, 100 per cent.

There would be an additional ``administrative fine'' of 100 euros after two years, and 200 euros after three.

If the immigrants had not started their course after three years, or completed it after four, they would lose their residence permits altogether.

The other new introduction was the health certificate. The government said that when submitted on entry to the country, it must not be more than 90 days old.

The exact content was still to be decided on. It would be orientated on ``a European catalogue''.

Presenting its new ``integration'' program, the government did not comply with frequent opposition demands that all foreigners who are allowed to live in Austria should automatically be allowed to work as well.

The new regulations also expanded the use of temporary ``seasonal'' workers.

These workers would no longer be limited to the traditional areas of tourism and agriculture, but could also be employed elsewhere.

A seasonal worker would get a work permit for six months, which could be extended for another six months.

But after that, at least two months must lapse before a further permit could be applied for.

Strasser said the new regulations would go into force on January 1 next year.


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To: NativeNewYorker
Smart Austrians.
61 posted on 03/04/2002 10:42:36 AM PST by ikanakattara
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To: NativeNewYorker
Immigrants from outside the E.U. will have to pass German courses within four years or else be expelled from Austria

...and must be able to cite the lyrics to every song in "The Sound Of Music".

62 posted on 03/04/2002 10:48:37 AM PST by TADSLOS
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To: Merovingian
Sorry for the tardy reply.I see that you have found it.Spengler is regarded as very controversial,which is almost an endorsement in itself.If you can work your way through this book and understand it,you're a better man than I.But I am interested in classical antiquity,and Spengler's is one of the best attempts to create a comprehensive history.
63 posted on 03/04/2002 10:52:20 AM PST by kennyo
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To: NativeNewYorker
Hope its not reciprocal, hate to lose Arnold and Wolfgang. : )
64 posted on 03/04/2002 10:55:57 AM PST by Semper Paratus
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To: Don Myers
There are plenty of people here in Minneapolis who speak that wodnerful mix of English and Spanish.
65 posted on 03/04/2002 11:27:14 AM PST by MadRobotArtist
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To: angkor
"... ironically, it also is directly across the street from Sallie Mae, which administers all US student loans."

The young students who lived next door to me all attended the University of Alaska, Anchorage. They understood the Guaranteed Student Loan/Pell Grant/'System'(Welfare) better than any American. They teach one another.

The one fellow I knew best married another foreign student before he graduated and they promptly had their 'anchor baby'. He is presently working in one of those jobs that Americans are too lazy, or uninterested in working ... as a Flight Instructor at Merrill Field.

I once told the individual that if he and his buddies had any integrity, they would buy guns and ammo up here where they can, and go back home and fight their own damn revolution. We cannot do that for them, and they only muck up our situation by overstaying their welcome and SUCKING off of us.

66 posted on 03/04/2002 12:04:53 PM PST by CIBvet
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67 posted on 03/04/2002 12:08:30 PM PST by theophilusscribe
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To: Sabertooth
Achtung, Baby.

eschulten sie bitter, voh est der banhoff?

Sorry, but I just learned enough German so that I wouldn't get lost coming back to base from the latest frau's house!

68 posted on 03/04/2002 3:31:02 PM PST by AAABEST
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To: NativeNewYorker
4 years to learn enough to pass is plenty of time. Most people can learn enough in 6 weeks to go shopping, and within a year to read the newspaper and argue politics.
69 posted on 03/04/2002 3:35:51 PM PST by RightWhale
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To: RightWhale
Most people can learn enough ......within a year to ........argue politics.

"Fashistischen Schwachkopf !"

"Kommunistische Schwein !!"

70 posted on 03/04/2002 4:08:16 PM PST by Polybius
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To: Polybius
In some cases perhaps a single evening at the local watering station would be enough to begin arguing politics in a meaningful way.
71 posted on 03/04/2002 4:15:40 PM PST by RightWhale
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To: Sabertooth
Achtung, Baby.

Thanks for the ping. That is the way it should be here.

By helping to pay while learning the language they also learn something about work ethics.

That is something our neighbors from the south know little or nothing about.

72 posted on 03/04/2002 4:26:20 PM PST by Brownie74
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To: MadRobotArtist
"There are plenty of people here in Minneapolis who speak that wodnerful mix of English and Spanish."

Must be strictly a local thing.

73 posted on 03/04/2002 8:00:32 PM PST by Don Myers
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To: Sabertooth
I dunno about the "Actung" comment,Saber. I agree with this. They are not demanding anybody be fluent to the point of no accent,only that they learn the language well enough to manage without problems. They are also NOT demanding the Turks (for example) not speak Turkish at home.
74 posted on 03/05/2002 8:02:19 PM PST by sneakypete
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To: MadRobotArtist
How many people do you know who speak Spanglish?

Maybe about a third of the people I know speak Spanglish. It's an interesting language, most who speak it have problems making themselves understood in English and in Spanish. They are so used to mixing the two that they are unable to use one language or the other. You hear phrases like "esta working" or "la troca". It's funny when someone tells a Spanish speaker "vengo por atras" to mean they're returning.

75 posted on 03/05/2002 8:18:47 PM PST by FITZ
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To: FITZ
Hehehehe. My wife works with people who do the Spanglish thing. Of course they also do the Englorean, which is a mish mash of English and Korean.
76 posted on 03/05/2002 9:09:36 PM PST by MadRobotArtist
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To: EggsAckley
I seem to recall a year or so ago when Austria first talked about this, the world roared "Fascist" at them.

I believe that had more to do with the fact that the right-wing party agreed to share power with the more popular conservative party. They got scared in europe because that was the firstime in many years that a right-wing socialist party has had power in europe. In europe conservaivtes and right-wing socialists have their own parties instead of here were right-wing socialists and conservatives share a party just like liberals and left-wing socialists share a party.
77 posted on 03/05/2002 9:15:51 PM PST by Libertarian_4_eva
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78 posted on 03/06/2002 1:30:39 AM PST by randystone
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To: NativeNewYorker

Learn German or you're out, Austria tells immigrants

By Barbara Miller in Vienna

10 July 2002

Foreigners in Austria will be forced to learn German or face deportation, under new legislation passed yesterday.

Non-EU citizens who arrived in Austria after 1 January 1998 will be obliged to attend 100 hours of tuition in German language and culture. Those immigrants who can prove they already have German language skills, and high-ranking managers and other professionals who stay for less than two years can be excused.

Participants will be obliged to pay half of the estimated €350 (£230) cost of the course. The state's contribution drops to a quarter after 18 months for foreigners who do not comply with the regulations, and to zero after two years. After three years, anyone who has not completed the course will be fined and after four years of non-compliance their residence permit will be withdrawn.

The "integration contract" has been heavily criticised by the opposition Social Democrats and Greens.During the parliamentary debate on the Bill, the Greens' migration spokeswoman, Terezija Stoisits, appealed for MPs to vote "no to the de-integration package, yes to integration".

But the centre-right People's Party, which governs in a coalition with the far right-wing Freedom Party, argued that the government was merely addressing the concerns of ordinary Austrians.

Peter Westenthaler, the Freedom Party's parliamentary leader, described the new law as "one of the most modern pieces of legislation on foreigners in Europe".

In autumn 1999 there was an international outcry when the Freedom Party ran an election campaign with posters calling for an end to Überfremdung ("being swamped by foreigners"). Several months later, diplomatic sanctions were imposed on Austria by the EU when the Freedom Party entered national government.

Now, the party is relishing the swing to the right in recent European elections. The party's de facto leader, Jörg Haider, said such election results were "the best confirmation" of far right-wing ideas.

Recent ideas from within the Freedom Party include paying new immigrants only as much social security benefits as they would receive in their home country, and making asylum-seekers clean up dog faeces. With general elections due next year, this is probably just a taste of what is in store.

79 posted on 07/09/2002 11:49:16 PM PDT by ATOMIC_PUNK
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK
http://news.independent.co.uk/europe/story.jsp?story=313624
80 posted on 07/09/2002 11:49:55 PM PDT by ATOMIC_PUNK
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