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Mourners Gathering At Site Where Danielle's Body Was Found: (Post van Dam News Here)
Union Tribune ^ | March 1, 2002 | Seth Hettena

Posted on 03/01/2002 4:04:47 PM PST by FresnoDA

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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
That's it ---searching the truth ---whatever that might be. I happen to believe their lifestyle might have had a lot to do with what happened to their little girl ---why she out of all the kids around there was taken. We had a terrible child murder here recently. The parents weren't swingers or immoral but there was a common custom before of parents taking children to the store and letting them go off on their own to go play with toys while parents shopped. So a child killer encountered a little girl in the toy section alone with her parents no where in sight so she was taken. If not her, it would have been another child but her parents let it be easy.
641 posted on 03/03/2002 7:35:14 AM PST by FITZ
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
Kim, with all due respect, you're not a flamer. You're more of an insinuator. You prefer to work with innuendo and twisting words.

For instance, you asked me if I felt Mrs. VD was like a well-known serial killer, when what I said was that she lacked emotion. The attempt to put words in my mouth in comparing Mrs. VD to a serial killer was transparent, but I give you E for effort.

The fact that some of us do not like what the ever-changing stories indicate about the VDs seems to bother you. Time is going to tell the tale, however, and I trust my own instincts on this one--and those of several other very good Freeper researchers.

Your work on your web page is commendable, but it's work many of us have already done on a day to day basis following this case. And so far, the facts gleaned from your work seem not to have assisted you in seeing the obvious. Bias often brings that about.

642 posted on 03/03/2002 7:40:53 AM PST by MizSterious
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To: FITZ
My first reaction was that this public hanging would blow over and that people would quickly realize that they were being manipulated by ricky roberts and possibly the ''pitbull attorney''. (It started after the pitbull attny was hired) Maybe there is a cop that spoke to ricky. maybe the cop is buddies with the pitbull attorney.

Right now, I would venture to guess that pitbull attorney is THRILLED at all the negative publicity the poor parents are receiving..or have received. He'll try to bring it up in court..that's a given. I think it was a terrible distraction from the investigation. Maybe sometime in the future the issue will be addressed.(even though Brenda did say it was hurtful rumors..that wasn't enough for ricky)

643 posted on 03/03/2002 7:44:21 AM PST by Freedom2specul8
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
Please explain how, if "nothing gets between" BVD and her children, she never bothered to check on them when she got home from the bar. EVEN THOUGH HER DAUGHTER'S BED WAS IN THE DIRECT LINE OF SIGHT FROM THE DOOR? I'm starting to get the idea that we can't believe a word out of this woman's mouth.
644 posted on 03/03/2002 7:49:49 AM PST by MizSterious
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To: golitely
That was not an insinuation. I was simply trying to understand your concept of what an emotionless mother was like. It was a statement that imho needed clarification. It was NOT a twist of words. A twist of words would have been more like "well, since you believe she IS a socio or psycho path"...but that's not what I did. I believe I phrased it in the form of a question..on purpose. IMHO, it's wrong to insult people's intelligence..especially someone such as yourself, who does NOT go out of her/his way to belittle or degrade a fellow freeper.

Yes, the news accounts on that webpage are difficult to hold up against Ricky Roberts version of what happened. I agree. I'm not going to argue against speculation, innuendos, gossip and rumors. How does one do that?

645 posted on 03/03/2002 7:49:55 AM PST by Freedom2specul8
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
Gee, that's funny. Every time we find a discrepancy in the VD story, you claim it's a coincidence. Now that you've discovered this little item, you claim it can't be a coincidence. No bias here, nahhhhh...
646 posted on 03/03/2002 7:51:17 AM PST by MizSterious
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To: golitely
I'm looking for the pic of her room again so I can comment..
647 posted on 03/03/2002 7:53:04 AM PST by Freedom2specul8
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To: golitely
Gee, that's funny. Every time we find a discrepancy in the VD story, you claim it's a coincidence. Now that you've discovered this little item, you claim it can't be a coincidence. No bias here, nahhhhh...

Are you talking about the possible connection between RR and the Pitull? I told ya'll yesterday when I brought this little bit of info up that I can create conspiracies or shed doubts too. :) At least I don't deny that it's a conspiracy theory. I have to leave after all...as of right now, I don't know where the the door is in the room.. CYA

648 posted on 03/03/2002 7:56:04 AM PST by Freedom2specul8
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
I'm not going to argue against speculation, innuendos, gossip and rumors. How does one do that?

That's no fun. But if you really don't want to (like I'm doing now on this case), then you just read about it and wait till more details come out.

649 posted on 03/03/2002 7:56:07 AM PST by FITZ
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
Feldman will deal in facts, miss smarty pants!

Quote from Brenda "Nothing would get in between me checking on my children. It's a rumor. I don't know why people would want to be hurtful."

Examine the statement. "NOTHING would get in between me checking on my children." So what does the word Nothing mean. Does it mean that even if she was engaged in her reindeer games, she would still check on her children, and that it is a "rumor" she didn't check on her kids (while engaging in "nothing"?) Read it the right way!

Put on your flame retardent outfit, Kimmie...I changed my mind about not coming back at you....developing.

sw

650 posted on 03/03/2002 7:57:04 AM PST by spectre
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To: golitely
New thread forming in Breaking News.....more information seeping out as well. Join me over there!!!! FresnoDA
651 posted on 03/03/2002 7:57:30 AM PST by FresnoDA
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To: golitely
"Sorry, Luis, nice try."

What do you mean "nice try"? You don't think that these people are hurt by their daughter's murder?

I think that the one lacking human traits here is you.

God help you.

652 posted on 03/03/2002 11:16:32 AM PST by Luis Gonzalez
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To: golitely
Yeah they go through this terribly traumatic situation and you need them to be absolutely perfect on every single little detail. Judging them on every media speculation. Do what you have to do I guess.
653 posted on 03/03/2002 3:01:50 PM PST by Greg Weston
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
It's a good thing it's 2002 and not 1702, there is no telling what these types could stir up. I wonder if they have torches and rope in their closets just ready to go. Always question the motives and conduct of the lynching kind.
654 posted on 03/03/2002 3:08:33 PM PST by Greg Weston
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To: FresnoDA
Break out the barf bags.
655 posted on 03/03/2002 3:12:44 PM PST by Greg Weston
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To: Luis Gonzalez
You amigo, must have missed it!!

CLICK ME
The well-rehearsed face of grief

656 posted on 03/03/2002 3:28:42 PM PST by Freedom2specul8
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To: Greg Weston
I agree that some of these people have a warped sense of what freedom and gossip means.
657 posted on 03/03/2002 3:29:27 PM PST by Freedom2specul8
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To: spectre
I know it for a FACT.
658 posted on 03/03/2002 6:13:45 PM PST by onyx
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To: GummyIII
FYI... :)
659 posted on 03/05/2002 6:44:37 AM PST by Freedom2specul8
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To: FresnoDA
Just looking through old threads, and came upon the John Walsh piece. Funny how they don't mention the strippers, coke, and limos in this?
660 posted on 03/24/2002 1:46:03 PM PST by MizSterious
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