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Bud Macfarlane Jr sent this out to his e-mail list of over 70,000 conservative Catholics. It is also posted on his website www.Catholicity.com, probably the second most frequently visited Catholic website after EWTN.com.

Let's hope ND gets the message.

1 posted on 02/26/2002 3:54:43 AM PST by Diago
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2 posted on 02/26/2002 3:59:29 AM PST by Diago
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To: Diago
Bump ND '88
3 posted on 02/26/2002 4:05:17 AM PST by ArmoredCav
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Thanks Diago, now I'm going to be Pi$$ed for the rest of the day!

I hope all of us who have supported Notre Dame financially suddenly lose our checkbooks. This is a gross slap in the face to the person for whom this institution was named. I really cannot believe the administration will allow this.

I would love to see a huge negative response from the student body over this abominable decision.

4 posted on 02/26/2002 4:12:06 AM PST by EODGUY
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To: Diago
It should be interesting to note, that the religious sector
of this Nation has historically voted along democrat lines.

They continue to support the democrat party in all areas,
encouraging their congregations to support candidates of
the democrat political party.

It's no wonder, since all organized religion's agendas are
basically socialistic; their demands for the "banning" of
various media and topics equally socialistic and repressive
of Liberty.

But we should be concerned of their "plight" concerning
"democrat agendas".........   why?

5 posted on 02/26/2002 4:12:47 AM PST by Deep_6
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To: Diago
My father went to Notre Dame and he used to send them contributions from time to time, not realizing that they were actively engaged in undermmining the Church. The last time they sent him one of their fundraising letters, he wrote "Not another dime until you stop inviting pro-abortionists to campus" and sent it back. What a great sorrow it is to see ND besmirched this way.
7 posted on 02/26/2002 4:16:14 AM PST by austen
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To: Diago
While I agree with nearly everything in this letter, I think the future leaders of the church are more likely to be the faithful who perservere at institutions like Notre Dame. ND is one of the most highly rated educational institutions.
8 posted on 02/26/2002 4:30:05 AM PST by Varda
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Also a graduate of Notre Dame, I love the University as well as the entire college community.

I am not Catholic. However, I am a member of the Lutheran Church (ELCA) and often attend Catholic services.

The University is secularized and open in its policies and has been for over twenty years. Sadly, Notre Dame will be forced to deal with controversies of this type because of certain negative influences on campus.

I personally do not think the use of vulgar words in college plays is objectionable in itself. However, the theme of the 'V. Monologues' is the elevation of lesbian sexuality and seduction of a young girl by an older woman. Clearly those themes should not be promoted by Notre Dame, and the production of this play is a significant mistake by the University.

Nuff said.

9 posted on 02/26/2002 4:41:37 AM PST by ex-Texan
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Very sad to see Notre Dame buying into this third-rate tripe masquerading as women's "empowerment." The left has successfully managed to convince the gullible that this off-Broadway trash is somehow significant and "liberating."

Unfortunate that ND has chosen to neglect church teaching and common sense in a bid to appear trendy.

10 posted on 02/26/2002 4:45:24 AM PST by PBRSTREETGANG
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Notre Dame has been falling for years and why should the Clergy at that School be any more Religious oriented than the clergy in most Catholic Universities today.

The Catholic church gave up seats to all comers when they could have been filled up with Catholic Children.

Where did the money come from to build these schools if not from Catholics.

15 posted on 02/26/2002 5:03:14 AM PST by chatham
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For decades now, the University of Notre Dame and other Catholic institutions of "higher" learning have jeopardized the souls of students that come under their influence, and they do so by design, willfully, and with a certain patronizing smarminess that makes decent folk feel the presence of evil.

I have been amazed since I've been in MA at the attitude of parents toward Notre Dame. It is ususally the FIRST school on so many kids' lists! Either they don't know or don't care just how bad it has gotten. I think they still have these visions of Knute Rockne and the Gipper dancing in their heads!

McFarlane is right about Notre Dame being in the vanguard of dissent! Apparently a few years ago it wanted to award Fr. Richard McBrien an honorary doctorate and it asked the Law School to do it. Folks in the Law School said NO POSSIBLE WAY, so the School of Theology had to do it. The folks at the Law School are apparently more concerned with the passing on of the faith than the so called theologians at the school. I have a friend who got a degree in Theology from a Catholic college in the 70's and said it was a major reason why she's almost lost her faith!

What was it Jesus said about millstones....?

18 posted on 02/26/2002 6:01:18 AM PST by SuziQ
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Thanks for posting this, Diago.

Though I "gave up" FR during Lent, I just received a small but encouraging bit of news regarding the VM play at Catholic universities, and wanted to share it.

I posted a related thread before Lent, Press Release: An Open Letter to the President of the College of the Holy Cross.

This effort at publicizing the problems with this play lead to Gonzaga University cancelling the play. It was scheduled for February 28:

Dateline: 02/25/2002


GONZAGA UNIVERSITY NEWS RELEASE

Dale Goodwin, Director
Peter Tormey, Associate Director

WOMEN’S STUDIES CLUB TO PRESENT ‘VAGINA MONOLOGUES’ FEB. 28, MARCH 1-2
The Women’s Studies Club of Gonzaga University will present “The Vagina Monologues,” a dramatic production that is part of V-Day, the global movement to stop violence against women and girls, at 7 p.m., Feb. 28, March 1 and March 2 at the WestCoast River Inn.

*****

We just got a call at the Catholic Family Association of America from Gonzaga, a Jesuit Catholic university out west. The president had just prohibited the VM scheduled by it's WOMEN'S STUDIES CLUB for FEB. 28, MARCH 1-2. They had seen our open letter to Fr. McFarland. His assistant, a good priest, was looking for ammo to defend his decision in a televised public forum on freedom of speech this evening. It was of great interest to him that Holy Cross alumni were outraged. We forwarded just about everything we had.

It's great to hit a homer, even a small one.

21 posted on 02/26/2002 6:19:14 AM PST by Brian Kopp DPM
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Central to this play is the lesbian rape of a thirteen year old child.

Liberals are spiritual, and often literal, rapists and pedophiles. They despise all innocence, especially that of a child.

23 posted on 02/26/2002 6:24:41 AM PST by moyden
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To: Diago
Here's another, deeper and longer, analysis of the VM play:

V-Day at St. Mary’s College

Excerpt:

The revolution which could bring about the overthrow of the political power of the Catholic Church in Austria was based, not on debate, but behavior: "We do not discuss the existence or nonexistence of God—we merely eliminate the sexual repressions and dissolve the infantile ties to the parents" (p. 182).

"The inescapable conclusion of all this," Reich concludes, "is that a clear sexual consciousness and a natural regulation of sexual life must foredoom every form of mysticism; that, in other words, natural sexuality is the arch enemy of mystical religion. By carrying on an anti-sexual fight wherever it can, making it the core of its dogmas and putting it in the foreground of its mass propaganda, the church only attests to the correctness of this interpretation." By getting people to act contrary to the Church’s teaching on sexual morals, Reich and his followers automatically limited its political influence. The logical conclusion of this is also clear: the total sexualization of a culture would mean the total extinction of the Church and the classical state based on the moral law.

"The process of the uprooting of mysticism" is accomplished more effectively, in other words, by deviant sexual behavior than by debate over the existence of God or the nth thesis of the Sixth International. Reich felt that sexual license would win out over self-control in every instance, and he probably felt that way based on his own experiences, where self-control lost consistently. But he also was empirical enough to see the same phenomenon in others. He mentions "clerics" who find it impossible to continue in their vocation once they have "felt on their own body" the "physical consequences" of sexual license. (p. 182).

The real purpose of a play like The Vagina Monologues is to "uproot" the Catholic faith in the girls who attend St. Mary’s College by promoting masturbation and deviant sexual activity. The political implications of this insight are clear, but they can be put into effect only after a cultural revolution has taken control of the instruments of culture. In other words, most people will not act out sexually in any consistent fashion on their own. They will be cowed by social convention into inhibition or brought by it to repentance. Reich noticed the inhibiting effect of culture on his patients. He was also quick to draw a conclusion which was the converse of the one he discovered. If women are inhibited sexually by culture, changes in the imagery promoted by the culture will bring about a change in behavior, which will in turn bring about a change in values.

25 posted on 02/26/2002 6:38:15 AM PST by Brian Kopp DPM
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29 posted on 02/26/2002 7:45:23 AM PST by .45MAN
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To: Diago
University of Notre Dame feedback page.
32 posted on 02/26/2002 11:46:17 AM PST by SMEDLEYBUTLER
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To: Diago; teacup
thanks for posting this
I'm a HUGE Bud MacFarlane fan and love Catholicity.
They had a major impact on my returning to the faith....long may they both exist!
33 posted on 02/26/2002 11:59:12 AM PST by MudPuppy
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To: Diago
Catholicity.com is an excellent web site.
Thanks for sharing!
35 posted on 02/26/2002 12:21:01 PM PST by mickie
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Kudos to fellow Domer Bud McFarlane, Jr. from this son of Our Lady's University.

MONK MALLOY--THE TIME HAS COME FOR YOU TO GO.

36 posted on 02/26/2002 1:59:56 PM PST by nd76
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I was recently on campus at my Alma Mater ST. LOUIS UNIVERSITY (1973 grad) and saw a flyer advertising this. It is a sad commentary that Catholic institutions (or any religious institution)would promote such vileness.
38 posted on 02/26/2002 2:12:15 PM PST by Schaef
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I assure you that the devout Catholic counter-revolution is underway.

Aslan is on the move.

40 posted on 02/26/2002 2:35:09 PM PST by Askel5
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