Our Lady Weeps: V-Monologues Comes to Notre Dame (Catholic leader calls ND Prez a "modern Judas")

www.catholicity.com ^ | February 25, 2002 | Bud Macfarlane Jr., MI

[Diago]

Bud Macfarlane Jr sent this out to his e-mail list of over 70,000 conservative Catholics. It is also posted on his website www.Catholicity.com, probably the second most frequently visited Catholic website after EWTN.com.

Let's hope ND gets the message.

[Diago]

ping

[ArmoredCav]

Bump ND '88

[EODGUY]

Thanks Diago, now I'm going to be Pi$$ed for the rest of the day!

I hope all of us who have supported Notre Dame financially suddenly lose our checkbooks. This is a gross slap in the face to the person for whom this institution was named. I really cannot believe the administration will allow this.

I would love to see a huge negative response from the student body over this abominable decision.

[Deep_6]

It should be interesting to note, that the religious sector
of this Nation has historically voted along democrat lines.

They continue to support the democrat party in all areas,
encouraging their congregations to support candidates of
the democrat political party.

It's no wonder, since all organized religion's agendas are
basically socialistic; their demands for the "banning" of
various media and topics equally socialistic and repressive
of Liberty.

But we should be concerned of their "plight" concerning
"democrat agendas".........   why?

[ventana]

bttt.v's wife.

[austen]

My father went to Notre Dame and he used to send them contributions from time to time, not realizing that they were actively engaged in undermmining the Church. The last time they sent him one of their fundraising letters, he wrote "Not another dime until you stop inviting pro-abortionists to campus" and sent it back. What a great sorrow it is to see ND besmirched this way.

[Varda]

While I agree with nearly everything in this letter, I think the future leaders of the church are more likely to be the faithful who perservere at institutions like Notre Dame. ND is one of the most highly rated educational institutions.

[ex-Texan]

Also a graduate of Notre Dame, I love the University as well as the entire college community.

I am not Catholic. However, I am a member of the Lutheran Church (ELCA) and often attend Catholic services.

The University is secularized and open in its policies and has been for over twenty years. Sadly, Notre Dame will be forced to deal with controversies of this type because of certain negative influences on campus.

I personally do not think the use of vulgar words in college plays is objectionable in itself. However, the theme of the 'V. Monologues' is the elevation of lesbian sexuality and seduction of a young girl by an older woman. Clearly those themes should not be promoted by Notre Dame, and the production of this play is a significant mistake by the University.

Nuff said.

[PBRSTREETGANG]

Very sad to see Notre Dame buying into this third-rate tripe masquerading as women's "empowerment." The left has successfully managed to convince the gullible that this off-Broadway trash is somehow significant and "liberating."

Unfortunate that ND has chosen to neglect church teaching and common sense in a bid to appear trendy.

[independentmind]

I hope all of us who have supported Notre Dame financially suddenly lose our checkbooks. This is a gross slap in the face to the person for whom this institution was named. I really cannot believe the administration will allow this.

I suspect that this is exactly what will happen, at least among older alumni. Incidentally, I have heard more than a few alumni say they probably won't send their children there.

[Diago]

Thanks Diago, now I'm going to be Pi$$ed for the rest of the day!

Well, misery loves company and that is why I posted this. I hope you will keep ND in your prayers. This is a disgrace.

[Diago]

I no longer financially contribute to my Alma Mater either. We should however, try to support those institutions that are loyal to the Magisterium. The ones noted by Macfarlane are certainly worthy of support:

Franciscan University of Steubenville (OH), Christendom College (VA), Thomas Aquinas College (CA), Our Lady of Corpus Christi College (TX), Ave Maria College and School of Law (MI), Our Lady Seat of Wisdom Academy (ONTARIO, CANADA), and Saint Thomas More College (NH) are prospering and growing. They are attracting the higher quality students who in years past longed to attend Notre Dame.

[gaspar]

Notre Dame must decide very soon whether it wants to be Catholic, and a center of higher education, or a center of higher education and catholic. Georgetown has chosen the latter path; let us hope that Notre Dame does not follow.

[chatham]

Notre Dame has been falling for years and why should the Clergy at that School be any more Religious oriented than the clergy in most Catholic Universities today.

The Catholic church gave up seats to all comers when they could have been filled up with Catholic Children.

Where did the money come from to build these schools if not from Catholics.

[Diago]

I don't know, Varda. My own kids are young, very bright and home-schooled. Macfarlane says the same about his own children. I don't think I could ever give a dime to Notre Dame, no matter how highly rated it is as an educational institution. Nor could I give another dime to my own Jesuit Alma Mater.

I think conservative Catholic parents need to begin "voting with their tuition dollars" and sending their children to the more loyal Catholic schools. Thomas Aquinas College, for instance, is academically superior to Notre Dame, Georgetown and Holy Cross.

[grellis]

I was going to argue with your assertion that all religions support the democratic party in all areas until I read this:

It's no wonder, since all organized religion's agendas are basically socialistic; their demands for the "banning" of various media and topics equally socialistic and repressive of Liberty.

No point in going near that can of worms.

[SuziQ]

For decades now, the University of Notre Dame and other Catholic institutions of "higher" learning have jeopardized the souls of students that come under their influence, and they do so by design, willfully, and with a certain patronizing smarminess that makes decent folk feel the presence of evil.

I have been amazed since I've been in MA at the attitude of parents toward Notre Dame. It is ususally the FIRST school on so many kids' lists! Either they don't know or don't care just how bad it has gotten. I think they still have these visions of Knute Rockne and the Gipper dancing in their heads!

McFarlane is right about Notre Dame being in the vanguard of dissent! Apparently a few years ago it wanted to award Fr. Richard McBrien an honorary doctorate and it asked the Law School to do it. Folks in the Law School said NO POSSIBLE WAY, so the School of Theology had to do it. The folks at the Law School are apparently more concerned with the passing on of the faith than the so called theologians at the school. I have a friend who got a degree in Theology from a Catholic college in the 70's and said it was a major reason why she's almost lost her faith!

What was it Jesus said about millstones....?

[BlackElk]

Notre Dame cannot follow. It began the formal rejection of Catholicism by most "Catholic" coleges in 1967 when then-Notre Dame President Fr. Theodore Hesburgh, a professional leftist if ever there was one, called all of the Catholic colleges toa conference at Land o' Lakes, Wisconsin, wher the leaders of all but six of them agreed to abandon Catholicism as a ruling guideline for their schools. After all, whined the termites, how CAN our colleges EVER be respected as scholarly institutions (by the various enemies of the Catholic faith running other colleges) when we are presenting an image of being mired in medieval Catholicism (aka the Truth)? Hesburgh's successor at Notre Dame, Monk Molloy, has taken Notre Dame further from Catholicism. E. Michael Jones, a former Notre Dame faculty member, has chronicled the destruction of Notre Dame as a Catholic institution. Are you offended by the "V" Monologues being presented at Notre Dame, Holy Cross and other pseudo-Catholic institutions? That's nothing. How about the death by gunshot wound of a Danish Dominican priest/faculty member at Notre Dame in the 1980s slain by a .44 caliber chest wound, ruled a suicide (about as likely as Vince Foster) who had taken an off-campus house of his own when he was supposed to live in the discipline of the Dominican community and was an active participant in the "leather" subculture of the lavender lifestyle. He had dished out two dishes of ice cream, one for himself and one for his "guest" before the shooting.

How about Boston College referring co-eds for abortion? How about Notre Dame's execrable excuse for an oft-time Theology Department Chairman and priest, Richard McBrien who wrote Mario Cuomo's Notre Dame speech on why "Catholic" politicians MUST be support systems for baby killers? Please! There are about ten genuinely Catholic colleges in the United States, almost all of them new (20 yrs or so young) and run by laity.

If your bishop will not meaningfully implement Ex Corde Ecclesiae (Pope JP II's document requiring orthodoxy of faculty at "Catholic" colleges here, drop the bishop a note saying that all your Church contributions will be sent directly to the Vatican until the bishop performs his duty and purges the Catholic faculties within his jurisdiction. The courts will not interfere with such actions because they concede that internal decisions as to doctrine are beyond the competence of the courts, especially in light of the First Amendment.

Notre Dame can be cleaned up easily by replacing the quisling bishop of South Bend, Indiana, who runs interference for the heretics and heathens and lifestyle flora and fauna of Notre Dame with the National Conference of Bishops. A new bishop determined to empty out Notre Dame's faculty septic tank has the authority to do so. Only the Jesuits are immune from local bishops. The Holy Office (Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith) can deal with the Jebbies and ought to.

It is long since time to stop thinking of Notre Dame as: "Let's win one for the Gipper" or as the "Catholic Yale of the Plains" or as an even vaguely Catholic institution.

[BlackElk]

Gathering, as one must, that you are not Catholic, why is this any of your business?