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To: Aric2000
If every TRUE conservative in America would stop blindly supporting the GOP, and lend support to a party that requires their candidates to be REAL conservatives, like the Constitution Party we could make a difference, but I'm afraid it will not happen because too many GOP voters are scared to leave the party, they don't realize that the Republican Party was a third party at one time.
14 posted on 02/21/2002 11:12:23 AM PST by jgrubbs
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To: jgrubbs
If every TRUE conservative in America would stop blindly supporting the GOP, and lend support to a party that requires their candidates to be REAL conservatives, like the Constitution Party we could make a difference, but I'm afraid it will not happen because too many GOP voters are scared to leave the party, they don't realize that the Republican Party was a third party at one time.

That's exactly why all these "hate Bush" liberal media articles are being posted, isn't it? Split the party. Vote for your guy.

19 posted on 02/21/2002 11:17:46 AM PST by concerned about politics
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To: jgrubbs
I agree with you. I thought the reality was that conservatives probably have a better shot at reform through the GOP than through a 3rd party. I have my doubts now however after the republicans controlled Congress for so long with iffy results.

I've voted 3rd party in the past but voted for GWB in 2000. If CFR passes and Bush doesn't veto I won't vote for him again.

I'm tired of voting for republicans just because they're not as bad as democrats. That just isn't good enough anymore.

30 posted on 02/21/2002 11:27:52 AM PST by NEPA
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To: jgrubbs
If every TRUE conservative in America would stop blindly supporting the GOP, and lend support to a party that requires their candidates to be REAL conservatives, like the Constitution Party we could make a difference,...

Yes and we could also be like Italy and have a government of a whole lot of whiner parties and no majority. There is an up side to the two party system. Compare ours to any other multi-party system in the world. Show me one that has stability in government and gets anything done.

32 posted on 02/21/2002 11:28:26 AM PST by Magnum44
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To: jgrubbs
If every TRUE conservative in America would stop blindly supporting the GOP

Hate to be the one to break the news to you but conservatives are not the majority in the land. We cannot elect anyone much farther to the right than the population is in general. A politician cannot change the minds and attitudes of the populace by much. In fact if he doesn't mirror it pretty closely, his term is limited.

34 posted on 02/21/2002 11:32:21 AM PST by VRWC_minion
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To: jgrubbs
You'd be better off trying to change the GOP. If every single true conservative in the U.S. supported the Constitution Party the average vote total in an election would look like this: Democrat 50%, Republican 25%, Constitution Party 25%. Who gets elected then?

Think whoever's left in the Republican Party, northeastern and west coast Republicans who are trying to get and stay elected in states and districts (like mine) that are 60-70 percent moderate to leftist, will all of a sudden see the light and become conservatives simply to lose in their states and districts by landslides?

You'd be better off starting on the very long job of changing minds. If you change minds first, the politics will follow. How do you think the 60's generation managed to slowly turn us into the country with the attitudes we currently have. Not through electing McGovern, they didn't. They changed the attitudes of the country first (environmentalism, sexual "freedom", homosexuality, education, taxes are good/businesses are greedy, you name it) and the politics followed.

The first problem isn't that Republicans do stupid, leftist things. That's the result. Politicians will always be whores to public sentiment. That's how personally advance (and all politicians want only one thing: personal advancement). The problem is that the majority (or plurality) public sentiment in this nation has slowly turned over the years to becoming very mushy moderate leftist. Start turning it back, one mind at a time, and you will results -- of course only in the long term.

78 posted on 02/21/2002 12:21:20 PM PST by Scott from the Left Coast
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