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"A Betrayal" - Some advice for Bush on campaign-finance reform legislation.
The National Review ^ | February 20, 2002 | National Review Editors

Posted on 02/21/2002 6:22:01 AM PST by rightwing2

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To: mmmmmmmm....... donuts
Some areas are black and white - plainly enumerated in our Constitution - like free speech. Others are gray and subject to differing opinions. I can tolerate the latter, but not the former.
21 posted on 02/21/2002 6:52:50 AM PST by 4CJ
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To: Lazamataz
Laz....

I supported and voted for Bush. I think his foreign policy is excellent, however his domestic agenda is rotting from inside out. In my mind he is doing little for the party, not wanting to spend his high public ratings. Yet in 04, he will be wanting us to all line up and support him, without question. That support is eroding now, best he take a look at it.

22 posted on 02/21/2002 6:53:09 AM PST by cynicom
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To: JohnGalt
W stands up to Saddam and bin Laden but is scared by Tiny Tommy and L'il Dick. Sickening and saddening.
23 posted on 02/21/2002 6:53:22 AM PST by clintonh8r
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To: Lazamataz
If he signs this bill, I will not vote for him in 2004.

Keep your stylus handy. "W" will NOT allow this unconstitutional POS to stand! Count on it.

FGS

24 posted on 02/21/2002 6:53:24 AM PST by ForGod'sSake
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To: rightwing2
Bush lobbyists have confirmed he WILL, repeat, WILL sign. This was at the retreat for GOP Chief of Staffs yesterday, and the White House is very very candidate with these folks at these kinds of events. Read the last two paragraphs and weep: Stevens Balks at Reform (Bush will sign CFR)

Could someone post that article seperately in News? I have been trying and every time I get the article set up and hit preview, the "can't find server" page comes up, I don't know what I'm doing wrong.

25 posted on 02/21/2002 6:55:05 AM PST by justanotherfreeper
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To: rightwing2
I do not follow the President blindly into the sunset. I respect him, I trust him, I disagree with him on many issues. He plays his cards close to his vest. Even now, I tend to underestimate him.....simply because he does hold those cards tight.

I have to trust him to do what he thinks is the right thing to do. I admit, I will be crushed if he signs a bill that is so blatantly un-Constitutional in that it limits a private citizen's right to political dissent during the most crucial time of all----prior to elections.

Shays-Meehan has stripped away our means of exposing the difference between what an incumbent says & what he does during this crucial time. If an incumbent is afraid to run on his record, he knows his record serves someone other than his constituents. His record should be able to stand up to public scrutiny.

I will continue my own personal lobbying with my Senators and the White House & pray that the Constitution will prevail on principle and not because SCOTUS had to make Congress follow the Constitution.

If the GOP and the President are willing to gamble on what SCOTUS would rule, perhaps it is time for Americans to leave the GOP en masse and donate time, money, effort & VOTES to the Constitutional Party.

I, too, fear what could happen in legislation during that 60 day time period. Someone tried to point out that is unlikely, because Congress is usually in recess during that time so they can campaign. I would point out that water flows through cracks, bears sh!!t in the woods, and Congress exploits unintended consequences. Jeffords waited until after he was elected as a member of the GOP to switch....I call it fraud. Dems called it "brave." I have no doubt those 60 days will be used to slip things through.

BTW, if they are so concerned about the corrupting influence of money in politics, why are they whoring for money now with the orgies of fund raisers scheduled before now & November? Both Bill & Hillary are going to be the starring whores for the dems. Bill at the Apollo in Harlem. Just a little hypocritical, I would think.

26 posted on 02/21/2002 6:55:57 AM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: justanotherfreeper; All
It looks like Mitch McConnell and George W. Bush are tag-teaming the LIBERALS!

GOP Greases Skids to Sink Campaign Finance Bill

[Excerpt] In an e-mail message circulated to House members and reporters Tuesday, the RSC referred to a letter President Bush wrote to then Senate Majority Leader Trent Lott (R-Miss.) last year detailing the six principles Bush believed should govern any campaign finance bill sent to the White House for Bush's signature.

According to the RSC, the version of the Shays-Meehan bill passed by the House violates all six principles.

"Not one of President Bush's six reform principles," the RSC memo claims, "is incorporated into Shays-Meehan."

No members were available to comment on whether the RSC memo is an attempt to set up a Bush veto of the bill. But White House has not ruled out a veto.

Those principles laid out by Bush, according to the letter, included: * Protect the Rights of Individuals to Participate in Democracy
* Maintain Strong Political Parties
* Ban Corporate and Union Soft Money
* Eliminate Involuntary Contributions
* Require Full and Prompt Disclosure
* Promote a Fair, Balanced, and Constitutional Approach

Rep. Todd Akin (R-Mo.), an RSC member, says the bill doesn't even past the first of the president's six "tests." [End Excerpt]

27 posted on 02/21/2002 6:56:06 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: swampfox98
This is definately a win-win situation for the Democrat party. If Bush vetos this bill the press will destroy his credibility

I think if Bush veto's this it's a win for him. The RATS in congress & the press will howl but W's poll numbers will still be in the 80's, especially when we start kicking a$$ over in Iraq.

28 posted on 02/21/2002 6:56:40 AM PST by lideric
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To: Lazamataz
"President Bush is reportedly about to commit a cynical and opportunistic act unworthy of his young presidency..."

This is all pure speculation on EVERYONE'S part. Until he gets this on his desk and does NOT veto it, then I say "phuey" to what these "sources" have been reporting now for weeks...we saw what happened with the stem cell research, and he surprised us all. He's a lot smarter than some of us are willing to give him credit for, and I for one will not abandon ship until he actually DOES something.

29 posted on 02/21/2002 6:56:44 AM PST by DJ88
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To: rightwing2;all;Silence, America!
Silence, America!:

Silence, America!: for Silence, America!. 

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A further Mini-Editorial!

Folks, these clowns, corrupters, and frauds in Congress are trying to silence YOU!

Wake up, dammit!

Rush and Hannity and all the hosts in the world can inveigh against this garbage day and night, but unless you actually do something about it, it will not matter one tiny iota!

Now is the time! If not now, when? When they arrest your wife or kids for "improper speech?"

Get off your butts and send some emails and faxes. Write letters, especially letters to editors.

Call talk shows- the local ones are easy to get on and reach a lot more people than you may realize.

This- right here, this "issue"- is where the rubber meets the road...

There are over 70,000 members here, and I know each of you knows at least two or three more people you can tell about this-- so do it! Now!

And tell them to tell 2 more people, and tell them to "pass this on to 2 more..."

The right to speak freely is as fundamental to a free society as the right to defend yourself against unprovoked attack. This is a frontal assault on your liberty and the freedom of your children and spouse.

It's time to move out, folks- march, or die....


Here's a Note to Activists:

Want to do something? Go here:

Ignorance Making You Ill? Cure It!

for links, tools, & instructions about how to contact a pile of different people, and how to send a link to this story right here ( or anywhere else ) to a "mass email" using Outlook Express.


I say again, people- it's time to speak up- or be forever silenced!

30 posted on 02/21/2002 6:59:24 AM PST by backhoe
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To: mmmmmmmm....... donuts
Gimme a break. Presidential races are always a choice between relative good, you can never get anyone that precisely matches your perspective.

Give ME a break. The first two amendments I do not make 'relative good' decisions on. Mr. Bush, you are either with us, or you are against us.

31 posted on 02/21/2002 7:00:41 AM PST by Lazamataz
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To: plain talk
Now THAT's a principled shoot-yourself-in-the-face-to-spite-your-ass conservative for you. pretty good.

So you will vote for someone who repeals the first amendment to avoid,,,,,what?

32 posted on 02/21/2002 7:02:32 AM PST by Protagoras
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To: DJ88
This is all pure speculation on EVERYONE'S part. Until he gets this on his desk and does NOT veto it, then I say "phuey" to what these "sources" have been reporting now for weeks...we saw what happened with the stem cell research, and he surprised us all. He's a lot smarter than some of us are willing to give him credit for, and I for one will not abandon ship until he actually DOES something.

Oh, I absolutely agree! He may outfox them all!

But I am giving him fair warning, and I think my one opinion may reflect hundreds of thousands of people out there.

The last election was decided by around 500 votes. I'm not sure he can afford several hundred thousand abstentions.

33 posted on 02/21/2002 7:02:54 AM PST by Lazamataz
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To: ThomasJefferson
So you will vote for someone who repeals the first amendment to avoid,,,,,what?

Someone who repeals it harder? ;^)

34 posted on 02/21/2002 7:03:31 AM PST by Lazamataz
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
It looks like Mitch McConnell and George W. Bush are tag-teaming the LIBERALS!

I hope you are right.

35 posted on 02/21/2002 7:04:31 AM PST by Lazamataz
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To: Lazamataz
I understand...it's just that all these "reports" from "aides" disturb me, Laz. We do know that Dubya doesn't "leak" anything...so who is doing it? That's what I want to know. ;-)
36 posted on 02/21/2002 7:05:14 AM PST by DJ88
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To: ForGod'sSake
I really hope you are correct. This thing is bad on so many levels. It's bad for anyone (of whatever political stripe), NO ONE gives a damn or even knows about it outside of the beltway or with politcal junkies(and very few support it).
for the life of me I don't understand why the president is even concidering signing this(note: if he is).
37 posted on 02/21/2002 7:06:29 AM PST by Valin
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To: lideric
The president doesn't seem to understand that a veto will not hurt him. People who are adamently for CFR oppose him on other issues also, so signing the bill will not get their vote, and Joe Lunchbucket couldn't care less about CFR one way or the other. So VETOING the bill is a win-win for W. Why can't he see that?
38 posted on 02/21/2002 7:07:36 AM PST by clintonh8r
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To: lideric
I hope the aides of Bush are spreading dis-information by saying today he intends to sign the bill. We'll see.
39 posted on 02/21/2002 7:09:51 AM PST by swampfox98
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To: Lazamataz
Bump!
40 posted on 02/21/2002 7:12:04 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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