T.U.L..I.P. and why I disagree with it

violitional theology | unknown | Ron Hossack

[StDonTheBaptist]

Good post. Thanks

[Knight_125]

Read Romans 9. Paul gives an arguement and defense of Election (Calvinism).

[fortheDeclaration]

Read Romans 9. Paul gives an arguement and defense of Election (Calvinism)

Read it. Romans 9-11 are parenthical, dealing with Israel, not individual salvation.

[CCWoody]

It looks like ftd has found someone else who either cannot or does not want to correctly define our position.

[biblewonk]

Catholics read that someone named Mary existed and before you know it, she is the Queen of heaven, immaculately conceived, ascended into heaven, ever virgin, mediatrix, etc etc etc etc.

To say that there is no scripture supporting election is every bit as deceitful.

[newgeezer]

I'm just glad that I had enough intelligence and humility to choose Christ, unlike those wretched heathens.

[biblewonk]

Thank you Lord that I'm not like those foolish and faithless heathens. Thank you that I was good enough and smart enough to believe in Jesus. Those heathens will have no one to blame but themselves for believing and I will have no one to thank but....

[Outlaw76]

*Hears Tiny Tim singing in the background*
"Tiptoe through the T.U.L.I.P. in the garden of make believe..."

Sorry, I realy couldn't resist. Thank God Christianity believes in forgiveness.

[Fifth Business]

It's difficult to accept just a little bit of providence. For example, do you believe that God creates souls and determines into what physical form and environs they are to be born? If so, aren't you glad He did not put you in Turkey? After all, that would be pre-ordaining you to a life of Islam.

[Jerry_M]

Yawn. Sniff, sniff, is that the smell of straw men burning?

[the_doc]

ftD has never given satisfactory answers to any of my arguments concerning Romans 9. On another thread, I demonstrated conclusively that his "National Israel" explanation doesn't work. The entire chapter is talking about salvation.

This just gets curiouser and curiouser.

[the_doc]

Cool screen name.

[JenB]

First off, the definition of TULIP that I have been taught starts with T for "Total Depravity", something different from what this article is talking about. And again, it fails to truthfully talk about the Calvinist position - but here is an area where there are many more knowledgable people than me to talk.

[newgeezer]

On another thread, I demonstrated conclusively that his "National Israel" explanation doesn't work.

Please post the link or URL. Next time I hear that one, I want to shoot it full of holes.

[Fifth Business]

Cool screen name

Thanks. I borrowed it from the title of one of Robertson Davies' books.

[rdb3]

The author's claims have been refuted several times right here on FR.

Will you glorify God, or man? Ya can't do both.

[rdb3]

Thank God Christianity believes in forgiveness.

It doesn't.

[jude24]

Looks like FTD has posted a parody of the Calvinist position held by you, me, and the others on this forum.

Just a rehash of the old, tired mischaracterizations of the Calvinist theology.

[Darksheare]

Do you guys even know what your position is?