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Down with Evolution! Creationists changing state educational standards
Scientific American ^ | March 2002 issue | RODGER DOYLE

Posted on 02/12/2002 12:24:57 PM PST by PatrickHenry

Since 1920 creationists have been successful in persuading legislatures in five Southern states to pass laws favorable to their views, but the courts consistently struck them down, saying that they violated the establishment clause of the Constitution. In the 1990s creationists began focusing instead on changing state educational standards. The most famous attempt to do so in recent years--the decision of the Kansas Board of Education to eliminate evolution from the state's science standards--was not a success: the decision was reversed in 2001 when antievolution board members were defeated for reelection.

Still, creationists have been victorious in many other states, a trend catalogued by Lawrence S. Lerner of California State University at Long Beach. His evaluation, summarized and updated in the map below, is valuable in part because it points up the widespread sway of creationists in Northern states, such as Illinois, Ohio and Wisconsin, that have a liberal or moderate tradition. Furthermore, it highlights the fact that certain Southern states--North and South Carolina--have more rigorous educational standards than some Northern states, such as New York and Massachusetts.

There is little information on what is actually taught in individual classrooms and school districts, so it is not clear what effect state standards have on the quality of evolution teaching. The influence of the standards is, however, potentially great because they are likely to affect the content of textbooks and lesson plans. Standards set the tone under which teachers and administrators work and, if written well, make it easier for science-oriented educators to insist that all teachers, including the one third who advocate equal time for creationism, observe proper guidelines.

Creationists have been able to alter state education standards despite being a fairly small minority. According to a 1999 poll by the People for the American Way Foundation, a Washington, D.C.-based organization opposed to the teaching of creationism in science classes, only 16 percent of Americans support the teaching of creationism to the exclusion of evolution. A huge majority--83 percent--favor teaching evolution, but most of them maintain that creationism should be discussed in science classes with evolution. Only 37 percent expressed strong support for evolution--that is, teaching it to the exclusion of all religious doctrine in science classes.

In the absence of a majority favoring strict standards for evolution teaching, it is easy to see why creationists have been able to make headway even outside the circle of evangelical Christianity. In 1996 Pope John Paul II reaffirmed the Catholic Church's commitment to evolution, first stated in 1950, saying that his inspiration for doing so came from the Bible. Despite this, 40 percent of American Catholics in a 2001 Gallup poll said they believed that God created human life in the past 10,000 years. Indeed, fully 45 percent of all Americans subscribe to this creationist view. Many who are indifferent to conservative theology give creationism some support, perhaps because, as mathematician Norman Levitt of Rutgers University suggests, the subject of evolution provokes anxiety about the nature of human existence, an anxiety that antievolutionists use to promote creationist ideas.


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To: AndrewC
Looks like mixing to me.

There was no mixing in that quote. Plate tectonic movements happen because the magma currents don't mix. And I still don't see an answer to how sedimentary strata get atop high mountains in the word "mixing." You could just as well be referring to turbulent mixing in the waters of the Great Flood, silly as that would be.

121 posted on 02/13/2002 6:59:17 AM PST by VadeRetro
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To: BikerNYC
sorta the overslept(inertia) drunk clown in his dirty(entropy) underwear the circus/freak show(evolution) left behind...

the next town in the universe---God owns that one with clear undisputed title--no entry for that farce--show!

122 posted on 02/13/2002 6:59:57 AM PST by f.Christian
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I doubt the "Intelligent Design"/Creationist camp would accept the finding that
the universe was created by Amaterasu-omi-kami with the assistance of Belldandy.
/sarcasm
123 posted on 02/13/2002 7:10:21 AM PST by Saturnalia
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To: rwfromkansas
It's also Lincoln's birthday, but nobody seems to know that, much less care these days.
124 posted on 02/13/2002 7:11:30 AM PST by stanz
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To: Sabertooth
Would you agree that the approach Sci Am and People for the American Way take in this article gives the controversy more heat than necessary?

Well, when a left-leaning magazine uses poll data from a leftist organization, one is naturally skeptical.

If we take the poll they cited at face value, most Americans aren't hostile to Evolution being taught, but it appears many are concerned about it being presented in a context that is religiously hostile. Wouldn't it be wise to make the case for Evolution instruction in a way that doesn't confirm this view?

Certainly. Evolution, like other scientific theories (gravity, atomic structure, etc.), doesn't deal with the supernatural at all, so there's no hostility to religion which is inherent in evolution.

125 posted on 02/13/2002 7:12:54 AM PST by PatrickHenry
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To: Physicist
I hope they were Krispy Kreme!
126 posted on 02/13/2002 7:23:30 AM PST by stanz
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To: VadeRetro
There was no mixing in that quote.

v. mixed, mix·ing, mix·es
v. tr.

    1. To combine or blend into one mass or mixture.

Finally, the lithosphere will be driven back into the asthenosphere where it returns to a heated state.

127 posted on 02/13/2002 7:30:32 AM PST by AndrewC
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To: PatrickHenry
Humans, plants & animals appear to be designed to live on the earth. They appear to be specifically designed for either this particular biosphere, or one extremely close to this one.

Common sense seems to suggest that if something appears to be designed by an engineer, then it is extremely likely that an engineer designed it.

Whether it was designed by an engineer, (or not) is a question that won't go away. Around Free Republic this seems to always degenerate into a "Did to!" Did not!" shouting match.

Perhaps a more practical use of time is to focus on understanding how things work, (like the human immune system) so that we can develop solutions for when things are broken.
128 posted on 02/13/2002 7:32:34 AM PST by samuel_7
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To: f.Christian
sorta the overslept(inertia) drunk clown in his dirty(entropy) underwear the circus/freak show(evolution) left behind...

the next town in the universe---God owns that one with clear undisputed title--no entry for that farce--show!


Hiccup! I agree with ya there, buddy...hey listen...can you tell if my socks are different colors?
129 posted on 02/13/2002 7:36:30 AM PST by BikerNYC
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To: samuel_7
Common sense seems to suggest that if something appears to be designed by an engineer, then it is extremely likely that an engineer designed it.

Can you tell me one thing in the universe that does not appear to be designed to exist in this universe?
130 posted on 02/13/2002 7:38:40 AM PST by BikerNYC
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To: BikerNYC
Can you tell me one thing in the universe that does not appear to be designed to exist in this universe?

Pedesis

131 posted on 02/13/2002 7:46:45 AM PST by AndrewC
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To: AndrewC
Pedesis

Why not? What kind of world would this be if gases didn't behave that way?
132 posted on 02/13/2002 7:55:02 AM PST by BikerNYC
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To: BikerNYC
Why not? What kind of world would this be if gases didn't behave that way?

According to what I have read on some of these threads, they don't necessarily act that way. In any case random, by its nature, is not designed, but I do agree with you that it(Brownian motion) has a purpose.

133 posted on 02/13/2002 8:01:57 AM PST by AndrewC
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To: AndrewC
v. lawyer, lawyering, lawyers
v. intr. / tr. (rarely)

To obfuscate, evade, and confuse in the manner of lawyers.

134 posted on 02/13/2002 8:27:36 AM PST by VadeRetro
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To: VadeRetro
pet·u·lant   Pronunciation Key  (pch-lnt)
adj.
  1. Unreasonably irritable or ill-tempered; peevish.
  2. Contemptuous in speech or behavior.

135 posted on 02/13/2002 8:40:25 AM PST by AndrewC
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To: AndrewC
Are you denying the first statement and confirming the second?

Both are correct statements. The key word is "spontaneously". If heat does flow from a colder body to a hotter one, there must be an active agency at work (such as a refrigerator) pumping heat from the cold area to the hot one.

Creationists like to point at life as something they believe to be low in entropy, and leap to the assumption that the agency responsible must be intelligent. But since there is a far more egregious local lowering of entropy associated with the sun's corona, why do they trust that in that case a natural mechanism is responsible for pumping the heat? Why don't they invoke the hand of God to move the heat?

136 posted on 02/13/2002 9:03:27 AM PST by Physicist
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To: Physicist
The key word is "spontaneously". If heat does flow from a colder body to a hotter one, there must be an active agency at work (such as a refrigerator) pumping heat from the cold area to the hot one.

Okay, I thought I misunderstood that part of your answer.

As to the Corona, how do you determine its entropy/change?

137 posted on 02/13/2002 9:12:16 AM PST by AndrewC
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To: PatrickHenry
Alliance for the Separation of School and State

138 posted on 02/13/2002 9:14:20 AM PST by CyberCowboy777
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To: oldcats
You are basing your entire argument on a many-timed translated book. Would you care to show any...ANY geological evidence for the flood? Oldcats

Try Charles Ginenthal's description of geological evidence for global floods, note the s on the end of the word 'flood' indicating plural and note also that I somehow resisted the temptation to post the thing here rather than providing a URL...

139 posted on 02/13/2002 9:14:28 AM PST by medved
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To: Physicist
Why don't they invoke the hand of God to move the heat?

Or invoke a band of angels to push the plantets around in their orbits?

140 posted on 02/13/2002 9:22:32 AM PST by Doctor Stochastic
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