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Jeb Bush`s Daughter Arrested
CNN BREAKING

Posted on 01/29/2002 7:31:58 AM PST by Buzznutt

Breaking on CNN charged with fraud,trying to obtain a controled substance....nothing follows..........


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To: codebreaker; johnhuang2
So she has a bottle that was not a refill

if that were the case, she'd be charged with possession of a controlled substance...

any Florida attorney FReeper know what constitutes "prescription fraud?"

241 posted on 01/29/2002 8:38:37 AM PST by glock rocks
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To: GovernmentShrinker
Go over to your rat hole and use it all you want with the other 10 morons that post there.
242 posted on 01/29/2002 8:38:44 AM PST by TLBSHOW
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
Do people abuse it for reasons other than to control their anxiety?

Don't know that much about it beyond some cursory reading, but it looks like it's in the "downs" category, and part of the same drug family as Valium.

243 posted on 01/29/2002 8:38:48 AM PST by Catspaw
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To: Geronimo
"Unfortunately, substance abuse is an issue confronting many families across our nation. We ask the public and the media to respect our family's privacy during this difficult time so that we can help our daughter."

The media show the same deference, respect and sensitivity to anyone in the Bush family? Not bloody likely. Just note the number of DU vampires coming out to feed right on this very thread.

If this story is true, it is extremely sad. Stories like this are always extremely sad, because of the pain and suffering caused to all the other family members. Unfortunately, this particular story is DOUBLY sad, because it involves a family member of a sitting Republican governor with high approval ratings, who just so happens to be the brother of a sitting Republican president, who has SKY HIGH approval ratings...therefore, we know what's coming, and must prepare.

The media overreaction to this is a good place to start.

244 posted on 01/29/2002 8:38:59 AM PST by cake_crumb
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To: glock rocks
I think it could be interpreted as the same thing but I'm not an attorney.
245 posted on 01/29/2002 8:39:35 AM PST by marajade
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To: DoughtyOne
With all due respect, and inviting flames upon myself, I disagree. You may not think it should be this way. In my heart, I don't think it should be this way. But I feel the same way about this that I did about the stuff with G.W.'s daughters ... you can look in my posting record and see that I'm consistent. And it doesn't matter to me if the person in question is 24 or 14.

The reality is, when one chooses to go into big-time politics ... and I consider being governor of Florida big-time politics ... then one's immediate family comes along for the ride as well.

Meaning, they are in the spotlight whether they choose to be or not, and they become public figures whether they choose to be or not, and they lose the right to privacy that Joe Schmoe in Secaucus, N.J., might have. Meaning, if they screw up, more likely than not it's going in the papers with screaming headlines and there's going to be a big fuss like this.

That means, basically, and I think I said this specifically when the stuff about the Bush twins broke last year, because of what her daddy chose to do with his life, they have to be above suspicion like Caesar's wife, and they forfeit the right either to do a lot of things that other people get to do, and the right to screw up without it being made a big issue of. And if they don't like it or don't think it's fair, then they need to take it up with their daddy, because his choice for his life has impacted the choices they can make for their lives.

This has nothing to do with Dem vs. GOP, liberal vs. conservative, the bad ol' media (which I'm a member of, BTW, although I'm one of the rare conservatives in the biz) picking on people, etc. It has to do with the realities of the way the game is played ... for everyone ... in 2002.

And it drives me CRAZY when conservatives circle the wagons and start whining and wanting to shoot the messenger when stuff like this happens.

Why in the wide world of sports do we continue to stick our faces out and say "hit me" to the enemies, and then pitch conniption fits when the enemies oblige?

246 posted on 01/29/2002 8:39:38 AM PST by GB
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To: dighton
I've seen other Bush supporters use "Shrub."

What are you talking about?

True fans and supporters of the President do not, I repeat do not use this term. It is an insult. I read this FReepers profile and still find the use of this term to be a slap in the face to the President Bush. Nuff said.

247 posted on 01/29/2002 8:40:11 AM PST by Reagan Man
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To: Melinator
I think it's a very interesting story and will be most interested in seeing exactly how Jeb and "W" react.

With sadness. They're parents. How would you react? They can't ground her!

248 posted on 01/29/2002 8:40:13 AM PST by concerned about politics
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To: FryingPan101
"I do hope Noel is innocent in this though. I smell setup."

Whatever way it shakes out tonight, it will sure smell ... or should I say ... STINK!

249 posted on 01/29/2002 8:40:23 AM PST by 2Trievers
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To: monday
maybe that poster stops using it instead of stinking up the site with DU talk.
250 posted on 01/29/2002 8:40:49 AM PST by TLBSHOW
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To: Buzznutt
from http://www.dicksguides.com/Xanax.html

"Studies of Xanax (see ahead) show that most patients develop withdrawal symptoms during routine treatment lasting only eight weeks. Tolerance, or the need for increasing doses to achieve the same psychoactive effect, is the underlying physical mechanism of addiction. Within two to four weeks, tolerance can develop to the sedative effect of minor tranquilizers taken at night for sleep. This again warns against the use of these drugs for more than a few days at a time.

The short-acting benzodiazepines can produce especially severe withdrawal symptoms, because the drug is cleared from the body at a relatively rapid rate. These include Xanax, Halcion, Ativan, Restoril, and Serax. However, according to expert Louis Fabre in a February 1991 interview ..., tightness of binding to receptors is probably more indicative of addictive potential, and the most tightly binding are Xanax, Halcion, Ativan, and Klonopin.

Individuals who take only one pill daily for sleep or anxiety are not exempt from withdrawal problems. In my private practice during the last few years I have worked with several people who were unable to stop taking a once-a-day standard dose of Xanax, Ativan, Klonopin, or other minor tranquilizers. In each case, the attempt to stop the medication led to a disturbing degree of anxiety or insomnia within twenty-four hours. The problem seemed to be caused by rebound anxiety or rebound insomnia (see ahead). In a personal communication in late December 1990, internist John Steinberg confirmed that patients taking one Xanax tablet each day for several weeks can become addicted. Steinberg is medical director of the Chemical Dependency Program at the Greater Baltimore Medical Center and president of the Maryland Society of Addiction Medicine. He points to research that Xanax and other short-acting benzodiazepines can cause a reactive hyperactivity of the receptors that they block. The hyperactive receptors then require one or more doses of Xanax each day or they produce anxiety and emotional discomfort. Steinberg calls the impact of Xanax "a fundamental change in the homeostasis of the brain." After the patient stops taking the Xanax, according to Steinberg, it takes the brain six to eighteen months to recover. Xanax patients should be warned, he says, that it can take a long time to get over painful withdrawal symptoms. Since doctors frequently don't realize this, they, too, are likely to be confused and to continue the drug in the hope of "treating" the patient's drug-induced anxiety and tension.

Many detoxification beds are occupied by patients addicted to minor tranquilizers and even more by those who are cross-addicted with alcohol and other drugs. Steinberg says that Xanax is "by far and away" the worst offender and that it definitely causes addiction without being mixed with other sedatives. Steinberg estimates that one in ten patients receiving Xanax will become addicted. * (Based on an estimated fifteen million people receiving Xanax each year in the United States, Steinberg concludes that 1.5 million Xanax addicts are produced each year.)"

The above excerpt is from Toxic Psychiatry by Peter R. Breggin

251 posted on 01/29/2002 8:41:44 AM PST by japaneseghost
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To: marajade
Hard to say. It's for Xanax; that's really no big deal, IMO. Could be expired.
252 posted on 01/29/2002 8:42:19 AM PST by Howlin
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
Vicodin (a pain killer) is much more addictive than Xanax, something smells here-unless this gal was an absolute nervous wreck and taking 100mg a day then stopped..and that is highly unlikely

I'm sure Barbara the grandmother has taken all the children aside and warned them that there are people everywhere who will take any opportunity ot smear the president VIA his relatives.

253 posted on 01/29/2002 8:42:24 AM PST by codebreaker
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To: section9
Good reply, chris.
255 posted on 01/29/2002 8:43:16 AM PST by Rebelbase
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To: ravingnutter
Police in the state capital Tallahassee confirmed Noelle Bush's arrest and said it involved the anti-anxiety drug Xanax

BIG EFFIN' DEAL. CAN I GO ON WITH MY LIFE NOW, MSNBC?

256 posted on 01/29/2002 8:43:29 AM PST by Jhensy
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To: section9
He cannot afford to lift a finger for his daughter. He can afford to love her. But he can't show favor towards her.

You're right.

Reminiscent of the Fox series "24" in the plot element involving the son of Sen. Palmer.

257 posted on 01/29/2002 8:43:30 AM PST by L.N. Smithee
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To: Buzznutt
This is sad if true. I'm so sorry about this.
258 posted on 01/29/2002 8:43:52 AM PST by Soaring Feather
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To: Melinator
"The U.S. State and Federal authorities routinely destroy peoples lives over exactly this kind of "offence"."

The OFFENSE is alleged to be prescription fraud...not a marijuana bust

It's a NON STORY in my opinion because of the hype and *breaking news* alerts/music/headlines every 5 minutes on cable news.

Most Americans will feel badly for this girl if she's addicted, and her parents - concerned and embarressed by this family problem. Thats about the extent of it.

She's surely gotten NO special treatment, she was arrested, as she should be if she was committing prescription fraud.

In light of everything this country has gone through, I consider this a non story, for you it may be the STORY of a LIFETIME, enjoy it!

259 posted on 01/29/2002 8:44:10 AM PST by SunnyUsa
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To: japaneseghost
Ill bet she was mixing the drug with something else if this wasn't a Democrat political 'hit ' like Jenna at the Tex-Mex restaurant.
260 posted on 01/29/2002 8:44:25 AM PST by codebreaker
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