Posted on 01/28/2002 6:08:09 AM PST by FourtySeven
Edited on 04/22/2004 12:32:21 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]
The International Bible Society said Monday that America's best-selling modern Bible is about to get an update using gender-neutral wording, despite past criticism of that idea from conservative Christians.
The revision will be called "Today's New International Version," or TNIV. The original "New International Version," which has sold more than 150 million copies worldwide since 1978, will remain on the market.
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I hope you're kidding. We have better texts now than we did back in the days when the King James version was translated. The KJV is a great Bible and beautifully written but the notion that it's somehow uncorrupted is just a fantasy stirred up by ignorant backwoods pastors.
Worth Repeating..
David
You've just shattered the cherished beliefs of more than one person here with that (absolutely true) statement.
MM
You are correct. I should have said...
"In addition to this actually being breaking news, I also posted this in this section to get everyone's opinion on this, because I'm curious what everyone thinks about it.
I apologize for any inconvenience.
"Man is the head of woman, like God is the head of man."
By changing the holy word, they are changing this. God said what he MEANT to say, and who are we to change his thinking for him???? Are the thought police so much wiser?
See #50. DO NOT CHANGE THE WORDS IN THIS BOOK. Revelations 18-19!
I'm on Gods side. There will be retribution. PC itself is an unholy worldly religion, that of the Anti-Christ. God will not be mocked!
Oh, good grief. I suggest that you pick up a copy of The King James Controversy by James White (or any one of several other good books). You're being duped by the King James only crowd. If you like it best, read it, but don't ascribe conspiratorial motives to other translations, several of of which are significant better than the KJV.
No I am not kidding. The fact is that the NIV and others use corrupted alexandrian texts. The KJV was taken from uncorrupted texts plain and simple. If you did a comparison of the NIV and KJV you would know this. The NIV is not even a complete translation
There are many references to God in the Torah - Lord, God, Almighty, Master, King, and so on. However, there is one reference to God in a feminine tense - Shekhina - Divine Presence.
In early Judaism, the figure of wisdom is experienced as feminine and the theology of "Shekina" and other references in Isaiah as to the Motherhood of God are well known. Ever since the resurrection of Christ, the grace of Christ has always manifested itself in the form of Mary.
(1) Genesis 1.26-27 God said, "Now we will make humans, and they will be like us. We will let them rule the fish, the birds, and all other living creatures." So God created humans to be like himself; he made men and women.
(2) Numbers 11.11-13 (a feminine kind of conversation going on) He prayed: I am your servant, LORD, so why are you doing this to me? What have I done to deserve this? You've made me responsible for all these people, but they're not my children. You told me to nurse them along and to carry them to the land you promised their ancestors. They keep whining for meat, but where can I get meat for them?
(3) Isaiah 66.12-13 The LORD has promised: "I will flood Jerusalem with the wealth of nations and make the city prosper. Zion will nurse you at her breast, carry you in her arms, and hold you in her lap. I will comfort you there like a mother comforting her child."
Deuteronomy 32:11 says, As an eagle incites its nestlings forth by hovering over its brood, so he [God] spread his wings to receive them and bore them up on his pinions. In fact, the eagle here is a mother eagle.
That verse is part of a longer hymn (32:1-43) in praise of God. Verse 18 says, You were unmindful of the Rock that begot you, you forgot the God who gave you birth.
The Book of Isaiah has several references to God using feminine imagery: Gods anguish for the Israelites is like that of a woman giving birth (42:14); God cherishes them with a mothers love (49:15); and As a mother comforts her son, so will I comfort you (66:13). Hearken to me, O house of Jacob, all the remnant of the house of Israel, who have been borne by me from your birth, carried from the womb; even to your old age I am He, and to gray hairs I will carry you. I have made, and I will bear; I will carry and will save." ~ Isaiah 46:3-4
So...don't worry, the bible already accounts for God's masculinity AND femininity. Does anybody out there REALLY think God is a man, with male plumbing and all that? C'mon. God's not that skinny Santa Clause sitting on a throne yer picturing. God's something we can't quite figure out.
hey - watch who yer callin backwoods ;)
"Your servants have counted the men (substitute "warrior here) of war who are under our command, and there is not a one of us is missing." (Num. 31:49) Even the males who were circumcised in Joshua 5:4 are not called "men of war," but "warriors." Obviously the "translators" want us to believe the army in Israel contained women and that the women were also circumcised.
Some people seem to find revisionism in the history books to be objectionable. Apparently, the same principle doesn't apply to scripture? Oh well, thanks for your advice to ignore it and not to stand against it.
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