Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

To: Lent
Do you agree with his version of the Torah understanding

Which "his version" are you talking about? I have stated already that I am not a scholar of the Torah. So I have pretty much refrained from making any statements about it. The disagreements that I have had on this thread so far are WHAT he has claimed as opposed to whether it is true or not.

Monkeyshine and I, if there were any real disagreements, have been discussing the substance of his statements rather than what the Torah actually says. That is where you came into error.

136 posted on 01/20/2002 12:31:19 PM PST by Demidog
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 132 | View Replies ]


To: Demidog
Which "his version" are you talking about? I have stated already that I am not a scholar of the Torah

If you advance a position and then purport to justify it then put up or shut up.

Monkeyshine and I, if there were any real disagreements, have been discussing the substance of his statements rather than what the Torah actually says

And yet you continued to parrot his version as if you didn't believe a word monkeyshine or the Jewish posters asserted. Is this your version of the "catch me if you can" argument?

139 posted on 01/20/2002 12:34:34 PM PST by Lent
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 136 | View Replies ]

To: Demidog
Understand one thing. Virtually all religious Jews, Zionist or not, accept the principle that "there are 70 faces to the Torah". This means that there are 70 ways to read (interpret, see, evaluate) everything contained therein - from the literal to the metaphorical to the metaphysical to the bible codes and on and on. Moreover, each one of these 70 faces are all considered valid and intentional. Jewish scholarly research is based on this principle, and Jewish scholarship is all in all the effort to discover these 70 faces.

This is more or less how the joke about 2 Jews having 5 opinions comes about.

So when I say this rabbi stands on his ground, I am acknowleging that he may indeed have valid points. It's subject to interpretation and opinion. Jewish scholarship is extremely difficult -- sometimes two very valid points are in seeming contradiction with each other. But we're talking about people's hard core beliefs and the redemption of the world, so devout people are going to argue these beliefs vociferously and to their last breath. I don't have words of ill will for this rabbi or his opinion. I just think he is wrong. I am no Torah scholar either, just a layman who derives immense pleasure grappling in depths of understanding found in Jewish thought.

156 posted on 01/20/2002 1:08:53 PM PST by monkeyshine
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 136 | View Replies ]

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article


FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson