Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 13 January 2002

Various big media television networks ^ | 13 January, 2002 | Various Self-Serving Politicians and Big Media Screaming

[Alas Babylon!]

Guest lineup posted yesterday by FReeper dickmc.

[SW6906]

Based on waht we saw on the shows today, I say they are already shutting up.....

[Alas Babylon!]

Agree. It's just not working. and I'm actually glad they're doing this. I know that big media is a DNC mouthpiece, but does the average American? I hope because of this fraud about linking Enron to Bush, with all the contributions to both parties and the enormous money Enron made under x-42, that at least a few people wake up. If not, at least the wet dreams the democrats/big media have about this, namely, a scandal to use against the republicans, won't happen. LOFL!

Hey, Timmy! Is this the best ya got? Bob Shieffer, sorry man, try again. Maybe you, Dan, and Terry McCaulife can get together and find something else?

[copycat]

Roger that...

[Sungirl]

ALL:

Why are the Dems saying that the Enrons employees were not allowed to sell their stock..that only the top officials were? Aren't there windows where employees are allowed to buy and sell several times a year? The stock has been falling since Mid february 2000...so the employees were not allowed to see since then??

[Bigg Red]

I thought O'Neill looked really good on the Sham and Kookie show (but not all that hot on the Fox show).

[SW6906]

I think they were only allowed to move stocks around in their 401(k)'s quarterly, so when it really started diving, they could do nothing but watch.

BTW: from what I understand, the company dictates this, not the FedGov. The company I work for used to work like this, then they changed their system and now I can move funds daily.

[Bigg Red]

Love your Neo-Con definition! I'd say "LOL," but you are dead right, so it's not really funny.

[Scott from the Left Coast]

Then the question becomes how do you help the employees without helping the company at large? By helping the employees you are also helping Bush's "rich oil buddies" (Demo speak). Those "rich oil buddies" now face personal bankruptcy from the legal hell they've gotten themselves into -- so how do you bail out the employees without bailing out the company (and by extension its executives)?

I thought Waxman and Lieberman were against that sort of thing? Apparently, they're just the hypocrites we've all thought they were.

Lieberman said that O'Neill acted like a "laissez-faire" Treasury Secretary from the 19th Century. So what do want Joe? You want O'Neill to bail out the "rich buddies" from their own begotten hell and save the company? You want the campaign contributors to get their quid pro quo in billions? I thought you were for campaign finance reform, Joe?

Actually, Joe, I really think your just an imbecile prostitute. You don't give a flying F about 401ks or employees in Texas, if you did maybe you could start up a fund using money donated by the 50 multi-multi-multi millionaire (and more) FAT RAT Senators to help re-inlate those 401ks.

[Howlin]

John Edwards is lying. Enron employees were NOT required to keep their stock.

He's a liar. And I hate the way he talks. He makes us ALL sound like rednecks.

[Bigg Red]

Well, you should be grateful that Russert did not show a picture of Waxman, the Mayor of Nostril City.

BTW, I used to watch Russert every week, but I have not watched his show since that "interview" he gave of Hitlery, and I vowed that day never to watch again. If he had stuck out his tongue that day we would have seen it was covered with her shoe polish. I would bet any amount of money that she was given -- most likely on demand -- advance copies of every question he asked. And, of course, there was no other guest on dispute any of her lies -- probably another of her preconditions.

[Howlin]

Ha ha ha..........CNN is now debunking what John Edwards just said. 89 percent of the employee stock was bought VOLUNTARILY!

[OldFriend]

By now all the demonrats and their cohorts in the media are just hoping this goes away....far away!!!

[1 FELLOW FREEPER]

That was my last episode to watch Russert too! That shoe polish must have tasted awful, though.

[MichelleSC]

"this guy and his Demo colleagues are going to war with Bush on his foreign policy initiatives and nominations."

---Daschle, Biden et al have for the past several months been looking for a way to openly oppose Bush and now they will use the recess appointments as their "excuse".

[be-baw]

Evans and O'Neill were both GREAT today

I didn't see O'Neill today, and, to be fair, I did not see all of Evans.

The part I saw was when Timmy had him on the ropes. Russert was spouting the party line from the NY Times and was pointing out their allegedly discrepancies between things Bush has said about his relationship with Ken Lay and what has since been reported in the press--Evans' response was pathetic--he stuttered a lot. After Russert posted all the contributions from Enron, Evans talked about the biggest political donation Bush got was from some guy in Colorado for $38 and change.

He appeared to be evading Russert's questions rather than taking them head on.

[Wphile]

Joe is just trying to save Citi-Corp, Enron's biggest creditor, and coincidentally, Joe's biggest contributor. A tangled web indeed.

[mafree]

If it turns out to be President Bush vs. sniveling, annoying Lieberman, I say we win easily..

Heck yeah -it's a slam dunk for Bush whether LIEberman runs as a Dimocrat or an Independent.

[VRWC For Truth]

The company I used to work for matched all my 401K contributions in company stock and I used to re-distribute my 401K ONCE A YEAR so I had no more than 4% of the total in company stock. I could trade more often but the key was balancing the 401K portfolio. I always made my contibutions to the other funds, and let the matching funds build up in company stock. If the company stock holdings got too big, when I realigned once a year, I would dump the excess into the other funds. This is investing 101. People tend to get greedy with their 401K's given the recent run up in the markets but it's for retirement. You have to be less agressive and more long term. Though I have sympathy for those who lost money, the one to blame is staring at them right in the mirror. These employees were all gung ho when the price of the stock was skyrocketing.

[Howlin]

Gene Sperling (sp) is on with Wolf, telling us all how well respected Robert Rubin is; all about how HE wasn't calling an administration he worked for, but a new one, just trying to give a "heads up."

Sure.

[Sungirl]

BTW: from what I understand, the company dictates this, not the FedGov. The company I work for used to work like this, then they changed their system and now I can move funds daily

That's the way it was with my company...a few times a year they were allowed to trade for a couple weeks. Some did...some didn't ...the stock went down to nothing and we are off the market. Some employees lost thousands...some made thousands. That's life.

Enron was going down hill since the Februrary of last year...surely they had many windows to sell.