Posted on 01/11/2002 6:31:43 AM PST by truthandlife
On Thursday, January 10, 2002, the White House reported President Bush signed the ominous $15.4 billion foreign appropriations bill, H.R. 2506, for fiscal-year 2002. The bill authorizes $446.5 million U.S. tax dollars to be given to other countries for abortion-family planning activities throughout the world. The abortion-family planning funds approved by Bush represents an increase of $21.5 million over last year for international family planning. Also on Thursday, Bush signed the labor, education and health spending bill, and a defense spending bill that was widely reported by The Associated Press (Bush Signs Defense Spending Bill).
Once we conservatives get onto the soggy ground of "people of goodwill may disagree" on an issue like this, we usually find ourselves being incrementally marginalized out of the debate.
You need to focus a bit more on tactics. You may think my position of favoring abortion being legal in the first trimester and not the third makes me nevertheless a disgusting facilitator of manslaughter and murder who is destined to burn in hell, and on whom if we met, you would spit on in the street as if a piece of rancid animated carrion. But while you go about trying to fashion a coalition to get rid of third trimester abortions (or most of them), or to get parental notification (parental notification should be the default position with the requirement of a court order to negate it), you should be whispering sweet nothings in my ear. You can turn on me later after my usefulness has been expended.
Does that make any sense?
| POPULATION CONTROL - THE KENYAN PERSPECTIVE By: Dr. Stephen K. Karanja, M.B.CH.B.M.MED O/G- Consultant Obstetrician/Gynaecologist The first birth control clinic was opened in Nairobi, the Kenyan Capital, 44 years ago. The second one opened a year later in 1956 at the Port Town of Mombasa. These two amalgamated into the Family a Planning Association of Kenya (FPAK). In 1963, FPAK was affiliated with the International Planned Parenthood Federation, thus becoming the first association in Africa south of the Sahara to join this monster which has nearly destroyed our society. Our nightmare just began. Following publication of a report on the demographic trends by the Population Council (New York; 1968), which partly talked of still unproven adverse effects of rapid population growth on socio-economic development, the Government of Kenya was coerced to become overtly involved in birth control. Thus a young nation then bustling with enthusiasm, hope and ambition for its people who had endured the yoke of colonialism suddenly offered itself to imperialism like it had never seen before, as we will soon discover. We were then only 7.9 million people in a vast empty country rich in resources but no people to exploit them. Believe it, we were said to be overpopulated - 34 years from then we are only 23 million - in this vast still empty land. The United States of America has used vast amounts of money over time to destroy the people of Kenya. USAID and other Non-Governmental Organizations funded mainly by the U.S. Government have targeted our people with a ruthlessness that makes one shudder. The International Planned Parenthood Federation, the Population Council (a subsidiary of the Rockfeller group), Population Action International, and the United Nations through its agencies like WHO and UNFPDA have targeted Kenya for depopulation at the expense of the integral development of its people. Some examples of the stark realities living side by side with the millions of dollars for population control include:
America has been a blessed country. This nation saved the world three times. During the first World War, the second World War and the Cold War. The American people can still save many in the world from preventable diseases. I do not believe that Americans want their taxes used to hurt other people. Why do you not stop this money being used for contraceptives and use it instead to provide clean water, good prenatal and postnatal care, good farming methods and rural electrification. Do the American people know that the millions of dollars spent for population control are used in the ways I have described? Why does your government not deal directly with our government but instead uses a third party like IPPF, which has no respect for the values of our people and our laws? It is therefore clear, that contrary to what one is led to believe, American Aid to Kenya is not a reasonable attempt to bring about integral development, rather it is a comprehensive and highly organized campaign to kill off as many of our people as are necessary so that the U.S. and other developed countries can continue exploiting our national resources. Therefor, for the first world to dominate the third world through contraceptive imperialism under the big stick of withholding development assistance for non-compliance makes us conclude that, not only the so-called Population Assistance to third world countries but even the "development assistance" has been tailored first to serve the interests of the richest of the rich of this world. USAID is the single biggest supporter and promoter of population control in Kenya. The programs it funds are implemented with an aggressive and elitist ruthlessness. In Kenya the target are always the poor and the illiterate who are pressured and tricked into using dangerous drugs which are often banned in the west, or who are sterilized during childbirth without either their knowledge or consent. You in the media, those in the White House and many in the United States Congress continue to deny these facts. We in Kenya are a people like you who are entitled to the same human rights and dignity as yourselves, but our right to live a normal human existence is ignored by globalist decision makers. If the funds you use to kill, maim, subjugate, dominate and break us to nothingness were used to cultivate our extraordinary resources, Kenya alone could feed more than half the African continent. Dear Americans, you cannot build your own security on the insecurity and degradation of others. You cannot build your own wealth on the poverty and destitution of people in the least developed nations. |
Wrong as usual. It's the Bush bill that insists that we can give them huge sums of money and they can be trusted not to kill anymore, despite their record. These organizations have a track record of death. They do not deserve to be rewarded, regardless of why Bush wishes to do so. To paraphrase P.J. O'Rourke, you don't give liquor and car keys to a teenaged boy and expect that your admonition to stay home and not get into trouble, is going to be listened to.
In other words, it is criminally negligent -- not to mention disingenous. Any idiot knows what's going to happen with this money -- even Dumb-ya.
Torie: really, do me a favor: don't project, especially if you're doing so just to make me into your strawman.
I have personally struggled with the abortion issue throughout my life and have moved along that very continuum your friend described. I know it exists, and I know that "people of goodwill" might even find themselves gravitating toward the right end of it.
But any serious consideration of the history of the 20th century would have to indicate that incrementalism, Gramscianism, and the various other tactics of the Left have rarely been co-opted with any success by the Right. It's hard to do good works with black magic, I guess.
Still, because I am an idealist, I hold out hope. I live in New York, and I consider anyone who even has an open mind about the issue to be a potentially. ally
Although you are certainly entitled to your belief that such concerns are fabricated, it seems pretty obvious to me that the threat of overpopulation in the next fifty years and resulting civil unrest, revolutions, etc are very real.
There is no evidence that there are abortions caused by or induced by hormonal combination oral contraceptions, used correctly (as opposed to the "emergency contraception" protocols). There is evidence that progesterone-only contraceptives do not sufficiently block ovulation, and results in far too many ectopic pregnancies (in a sense, you could say these are induced abortions). There is evidence that incorrect usage of oral contraceptives or the use of antibiotics or a bout of diarrhea while on any of the oral contraceptives can result in ovulation. And there is evidence that babies can and will implant without harm to them if mom becomes pregnant while taking oral contraceptives. (Annectdotally, I've never seen a lost pregnancy, positive pregnancy test after a period, or an ectopic pregnancy in my patients on any of the hormonal contraceptives. I've seen lots of healthy pregnancies.)
I have been looking for more than what ifs on this issue and have not found them. I would welcome sources that could clear this up.
Hyperbole does not serve your cause. The UNFPA is known to promote abortion as a primary method of population control. This is only one reason we need out of the UN. But don't distort the facts.
The Press is selling this bill as a raise for the military and "the budget bill" for the year.
From the aforementioned NSSM-200:
"Whatever may be done to guard against interruptions of supply and to develop domestic alternatives, the U.S. economy will require large and increasing amounts of minerals from abroad, especially from less developed countries. That fact gives the U.S. enhanced interest in the political, economic, and social stability of the supplying countries. Wherever a lessening of population pressures through reduced birth rates can increase the prospects for such stability, population policy becomes relevant to resource supplies and to the economic interests of the United States."
There's a scale over their eyes and they've actually brainwashed themselves, it appears to me. Weak Minds, Not at Work, in evidence.
Good Cite.
Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2002 15:46:07
Subject: False news story: "Bush Okays Abortion Spending"
re: http://www.covenantnews.com/
and http://www.covenantnews.com/murder.htm
Dear Mr. Rudd,
Your lead story today is wrong. It is entitled:
Bush Okays Abortion SpendingAnd it says:
By Jim Rudd / The Covenant NewsBut that is incorrect. Under the Mexico City policy which
On Thursday, January 10, 2002, the White House reported
President Bush signed the ominous $15.4 billion foreign
appropriations bill, H.R. 2506, for fiscal-year 2002. The
bill authorizes $446.5 million U.S. tax dollars to be
given to other countries for abortion-family planning
activities throughout the world. The abortion-family
planning funds approved by Bush represents an increase
of $21.5 million over last year. ...
It seems to me that it is even more urgent when you factor in national security. I completely agree with the assessment that populations controls can help maintain political, economic, and social stability. All are important factors in our overall national security policy. As I mentioend before, uncontrolled population growth will result in instability that will spill over into neighboring nations or our allies.
By helping these nations to control their population growth through family planning, we are helping to ensure stability. And with the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction, maintaining stability has become more important than ever before.
This still pays for abortions. The "health of the mother" is not mentioned, but I read it between the lines...don't you?
I'm more concerned about the types of governments that economic and political instability -- problems that are created by issues such as overpopulation -- fosters. This instability is ripe for an environment that creates overzealous dictators that create further suffering for their people.
Similarly, you can bet that we've only begun to see the problem of ethnic cleansing rear its ugly head. As populations of certain countries continue to escalate at high rates, ethnic groups in those nations will compete with one another for scarce resources. More massacres, and probably more U.S. intervention will follow. We should be trying to head this problem off at the pass. Funding of family planning is one such strategy.
I see no lie. You see a lie only because you have an extreme trick definition of "pro-life" that applies only to people who agree 100% with you.
Show me the statement Bush made during the campaign about RU486 that was a lie.
Under your definition of pro-life, a woman who was on birth control pills would be lying if she said she was pro-life.
It's a good thing that we havw adults running the Executive branch now instead of those vanity idiot candidates and their whacko devotees.
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