'Granny' Busted For Pot Sales

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[Texaggie79]

A 72-year-old woman is one of three members of a Green Cove Springs family now in jail, accused of selling marijuana.

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The Clay County Sheriff's Office arrested Elnora "Granny" Layfield, along with Michael and Linda Layfield, last Friday in their Stauffer Street home. Officer seized approximately 30 bags of marijuana valued at $1,200 from the house.

Police said that undercover officers bought marijuana at the home on four separate occasions prior to issuing a search warrant. When officers entered the home, the elder Layfield was found sitting in a living room with several bags of marijuana.

"It's unusual to find someone her age selling pot, but she's not the first and probably won't be the last," said Lt. Larry Thompson, who heads up the Clay County Drug Task Force, which co-ordinates the efforts of the sheriff's office, the Green Cove Springs and Orange Park police departments.

All three suspects were charged with possession, sale and delivery of marijuana over 20 grams, a felony with penalties of up to five years in jail upon conviction.

Elnora Layfield has two prior drug-related charges.

"Maybe a little jail time will send a stronger message to her -- because probation isn't working," Thompson said.

[scottiewottie]

After all if there was a junkie in the middle of the street shooting up(not bothering anybody, when he/she is shooting up) and the neighbor across the street calls the cops, isn't the bigger criminal in your mindset the neighbor who called the cops and not the junkie who is shooting up heroin in the middle of the street.

First of all there is the peculiar positioning of the junkie. I noticed that you placed the junkie in the street and not on your front lawn.

Can you tell me why you did that?

[wienerdog.com]

Is that okay, then, if they drink while "packing a rod" as long as they don't smoke pot?

[Whilom]

Isn't that the Granny Layfield helping OJ look for the real killers? It's what all us folks in Abilene thought all along -- THEY don't want the real killers found.

[Codie]

What ever gets you through the night.Although I doubt it will be any real "Epiphany".

[scottiewottie]

If I recall, I think Chicago burned down one day under a similar circumstance. Springfield is just down the road from Chicago. Coincidence? I think not!

[tacticalogic]

I'd rather they smoke pot. If you give a drunk a gun, he'll probably go out and shoot somebody. If you give a stoner a gun, he'll probably take it apart to see how it works, and then lose the pieces.

[Codie]

Is ok with you?

[wienerdog.com]

Okay, dude. Once you explain why 100% of the populace should be armed and drunk but not stoned, and how you plan to enforce it, we can have a serious conversation.

[Dane]

First of all there is the peculiar positioning of the junkie. I noticed that you placed the junkie in the street and not on your front lawn.

Can you tell me why you did that?

To put you in a quandry. Who is the bigger criminal in your eyes, the junkie shooting up in the middle of the street(not bothering anybody while shooting up) or the neighbor across the street who calls the police complaining about a public nuisance?

Would you automatically brand your neighbor a constitution hating statist?

[wienerdog.com]

It sounds like a lot of fun until someone gets hurt.

[Codie]

I can't.Which is why there needs to be some sort of control system.

[wienerdog.com]

What kind of control system do you think would work best?

[signulex]

This entire line of reasoning could be labeled pointless, as most Americans have long accepted laws against public substance consumption (aka open container). Whether or not shooting up heroin in the street should be illegal has nothing to do with legalizing marijuana. I think it would be reasonable to expect the same types of controls to apply to legalized drugs as apply to our legal drugs today.

[wienerdog.com]

Welcome to the Thread That Never Ends. That's what we have been telling Dane since yesterday afternoon. It's been good for some laughs, though.

[riley1992]

when you went into the thing about the drug-addicted vegans trampling your begonias.

Oh God, I missed so much. LOL

[signulex]

I just finally had to say something...I've known too many people (sadly, as they were fellow college students) whose line of logic and reasoning on the drug war comes straight from (as a previous post termed it) the "DARE coloring book" or the movie Reefer Madness. It is really pathetic.

[scottiewottie]

No you did it to avoid my other question. You put up another decoy. If the junkie is on your front lawn we have rights of property to consider.

So lets consider them.

If the junkie is in your yard, or in the street what would be the difference in your response? Would it be criminal for me to call the cops to tell them someone was shooting up on your lawn?

Now your question:

To put you in a quandry. Who is the bigger criminal in your eyes, the junkie shooting up in the middle of the street(not bothering anybody while shooting up) or the neighbor across the street who calls the police complaining about a public nuisance?

Would you automatically brand your neighbor a constitution hating statist?

You are right, we have a quandry here. How can a junkie not bothering anyone be a public nuisance? Is he a nuisance because of his use of the street? If shooting up in the street is not a crime, just which nuisance law did he break?

No, I would not call the neighbor a constitution hating statist. Why would I care if he was? I my Libertarian world I would have laws to hold his political actions(initiatory force) in check. To the contrary, if I knew that the police would help this man far better than myself(because as a libertarian I would hope the police could to that), I would beat the neighbor to the phone and call the cops myself!

More quandry. Why as a Libertarian, would I do that?

Bonus question: Would it make a difference if the man was in your front yard doing the same thing?

[Dane]

I think it would be reasonable to expect the same types of controls to apply to legalized drugs as apply to our legal drugs today.

Not according to the Libertarians on FR. I asked a simple question and I would prefer the person who the question was asked of in reply #369 answer it if you don't mind.

But since you decided(on your own free will) to butt in, who would you hold in more contempt the junkie shooting up in the middle of the street or the neighbor who called the police about a public nuisance.

A simple answer(the neighbor or the junkie) to the above question will be suffice.

[Codie]

Honestly,I believe in self defense.Arming everyone isn't the answer,at least in my opinion.The perfect world you "crave",isn't here and never will be.On the other hand, I refuse to be "collateral damage" for you and you "drugged" out "zombie" pals. :):)

[signulex]

I have no special affinity for junkies in the street, and since public heroin use is, as of today, clearly illegal, then I would have no problem with someone calling the cops on said "junkie in street." Now, someone using substances in their own home is a different matter entirely. Even though it is illegal, there is a huge difference between private choices and public.