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Hepatitis shots urged for newborns { DON'T}
AP ^ | January 7, 2002 | AP

Posted on 01/07/2002 1:15:35 PM PST by expose

Edited on 07/12/2004 3:50:29 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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To: Marie
I have twin nieces. One of them developed chicken pox even though both obtained the vaccine.

The know-it-all attitude of the doctor you describe is very prevalent.

161 posted on 01/08/2002 6:21:27 PM PST by Kryptonite
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To: DoughtyOne
Most people don't realize that they should get another Tetanus shot every so often

A physician's assistant just told me to have another as the incidence of Tetanus is back on the rise . . . I am scheduled for one next week.

162 posted on 01/08/2002 6:29:27 PM PST by Kryptonite
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To: bonesmccoy
I do however think that adults planning on becoming sexually active should get the vaccine.
163 posted on 01/08/2002 6:32:20 PM PST by rightwinggardeninggirl
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To: aruanan
A knee-jerk response.

And what is that supposed to mean...

My kids never needed these things, albeit they are adults now, but why would I keep up with these things now??

So what's so knee jerk about my response??

DL

164 posted on 01/08/2002 7:12:01 PM PST by Pee_Oui
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To: karebare
Hep A is on the list here for all children. I've tracked the vaccine makers. We do not make any in the USA.

Do not make any, or it is not available? If your mean not available, that is incorrect since my 3 yr old received this vaccination just a year ago in Phoenix, Arizona. Just fyi.

165 posted on 01/08/2002 7:20:14 PM PST by glory
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To: Yaelle
Actually I understood that they vaccinate many at a time now because the vaccinations themselves are much safer then thier predecessors(sp) so they can be given together all at once.

"I also feel that if you keep your baby near home most of the time, and don't overexpose your baby to germs (no daycare), you can safely bring your baby late to his vaccinations. Breastfeeding does help the new immune system somewhat, too."

Not a knock on bfing, but as a mother who has both a formula fed child and a bf one for some of the first year, I'd have to say I think the single most important thing to my children maintaining good health while those little immunse systems were maturing was keeping them HOME!! They both have had very good health(in fact my formula fed daughter actually has had BETTER health overall than my son and that's not to say I draw correlation to how they were fed saying that) compared to thier DAYCARE counterparts, not to how they were fed. I know my anectdotal evidence may not measure up, but overall in my circle it seems the daycare children, bf or not, are sicker than those who are home with thier mothers. Like I said, not downplaying bfing, but it certainly is only ONE factor in the overall health of a child and imo not even the most important one.

166 posted on 01/08/2002 7:28:23 PM PST by glory
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To: sc01
"why not force everyone to be immunized against hep-b then?"

Because there are no forced medical procedures on any individual in our nation, including vaccination.

how many babies do you know that use i.v. drugs or have promiscious sex, or perhaps you know babies that donate blood? you don't have one shred of proof that vaccinating infants is safe, nor do you have any regard for children who would have lead normal healthy lives were it not for experimental, unproven vaccine trials. parents do not need medical training to realize vaccinating infants for this lifestyle disease is absurd and criminal."

What a lark! After tens of millions of doses of vaccination, somehow you still claim that there is no "proof that vaccinating infants is safe"? Exactly what do you believe IS proof?

How many kids do you see each day with Hepatitis?

167 posted on 01/08/2002 8:02:05 PM PST by bonesmccoy
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To: sc01
shot 1 was probably Hepatitis B active vaccine.

Shot 2 was probably Hepatitis B antibodies.

Shot 3 was probably Vitamin K.

Instead of posting your observations here and asking me to conjecture about what was done, have you actually approached your physicians and asked them?

168 posted on 01/08/2002 8:03:39 PM PST by bonesmccoy
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To: expose
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169 posted on 01/08/2002 8:04:59 PM PST by classygreeneyedblonde
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To: rubbertramp
Dear rubbertramp,

There is a well-established protocol for Vaccine Adverse Effects Reporting. Look up VAERs at google. CDC.GOV has plenty of reading on this topic. All of it credible and tested.

170 posted on 01/08/2002 8:05:00 PM PST by bonesmccoy
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To: Tauzero
Dear Tau Beta Pi,

May the unvaccinated child test your immunity too.

EOM

171 posted on 01/08/2002 8:06:13 PM PST by bonesmccoy
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To: GailA
You folks keep railing on the HepB vaccine. How do you know which vaccine causes the problem when the newest vaccine (Prevnar) could be the real issue?
172 posted on 01/08/2002 8:18:17 PM PST by bonesmccoy
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To: Harrison Bergeron
I presume you say this has no relevancy to humans at this point because humans are not being studied, right?

Otherwise, I would believe there would be tremendous relevancy seeing as how so much in medicine is developed using animals....even the study of AIDS was modeled on studies of retro viruses in sheep....can't think of the retro virus right now that had enough 'similarities' or whatever for the scientists to work with.

173 posted on 01/08/2002 9:13:27 PM PST by Rowdee
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To: bonesmccoy
But you don't give your patients information about how they can report side effects or lingering conditions they get after receiving a vaccination? No wonder you have a 100% success rate.

Many mommies don't have the time or training to search the internet when they have a sick infant. Some don't even have computers.

With all your bluster and bravado you don't have any more knowledge than the lay person regarding the poison that is put in the Hep b vaccine that the pharmacuetical salesman pushes on you.

Thanks for the tip though, I'll pass it on to a mommie I just met who swears her child's diabetes came from the Hep B shot.

I'll bet the pharmaceutical conglomerate will hop right on her case and make ammends...(sarcasm).

174 posted on 01/09/2002 3:28:48 AM PST by rubbertramp
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To: rubbertramp
With all your bluster and bravado you don't have any more knowledge than the lay person regarding the poison that is put in the Hep b vaccine that the pharmacuetical salesman pushes on you.

How do you figure that?

175 posted on 01/09/2002 4:22:29 AM PST by TomB
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To: IceCreamSocialist,bonesmccoy
The statistics are on Dr. Len Horowitz' website. They can easily be read from there. I found this article and it applies here, it seems to be some pretty good advice, to each his own though...

20 Resons Not To Take The Smallpox Vaccination By Amy Worthington 1-8-2

1. George W. Bush has said of smallpox vaccination: "One of my concerns if we were to have universal vaccination, some might lose their life." ~The Times (in London), November 09, 2001.

2. For each million people vaccinated with the smallpox vaccine, as many as 250 could die, according to the American Medical Association. Multiply 250 times 285 (millions of Americans) and the possible deaths from universal smallpox vaccination could equal 71,250. ~ Journal of the American Medical Association, June 9, 1999, Vol. 281, No. 22, p. 2132.

3. "The American Medical Association said on Tuesday it was not in favor of an immediate mass U.S.smallpox vaccination program, saying the potential threat of a bioterror attack did not warrant inoculating every American against the disease." ~Reuters, December 12, 2001.

4. "Right now the risk of getting the vaccine is higher than the benefit. You could get a secondary infection, a full-blown systemic infection." ~Marie Rau, Panhandle Health District nurse, quoted by The Spokesman-Review, November 20, 2001.

5. CDC director Jeffrey Koplan has admitted that universal smallpox vaccination could unleash a significant number of side-effects. He said that because many parts of ourpopulation do not have a"robust immune system," a fair number of people could have serious reactions. ~Koplan speaking on the PBS special "Bioterror Propaganda" aired by WETA, November 14, 2001.

6. If the entire nation were to receive a smallpox vaccine, several thousand people would likely develop encephalitis, an inflammation of the brain. ~Washington Post, Dec. 26, 2001.

7. Roger J. Pomerantz, chief of the infectious disease department at Thomas Jefferson University in Philadelphia, said that doctors have no idea what the smallpox vaccine might do to people at the extremes of life--less than 2 and older than 65. He said that an even greater concern would be its effect on people with weakened immune systems from HIV infection, chemotherapy or transplants. ~Washington Post, Dec. 26, 2001.

8. "Researchers have been reluctant to recommend a new vaccination program which would use the smallpox vaccine for the local population because the vaccine can cause disease and death in persons with inadequate immune systems." ~Science, Vol. 277, July 18, 1997, pp. 312-13.

9. Routine smallpox vaccination in the United States ended in 1972. Officials are hesitant to resume the immunizations because the vaccine is the most reactive of all and has been linked to serious side effects, including death. ~ Reuters, November 29, 2001.

10. Eight printed pages of medical studies documenting the many serious side effects of smallpox vaccination can be obtained at www.whale.to/vaccines/smallpox.html. See "smallpox vaccine adverse reactions 66-76." [Note: go to the home page above and put "smallpox vaccine adverse reaction" in the search engine.] Repercussions include serious brain and heart diseases, autism, abnormal chromosomal changes, diabetes, various cancers and leukemias, plus demyelination of nerve tissue years after vaccination.

11. The U.S. Supreme Court has ruled that vaccination must not be forced on persons whose physical condition would make such vaccination "cruel and inhuman." In other words, the state has no right to command that an individual sacrifice his life in the name of public health. ~Jacobsen V. Massachusettes, 197 U.S. 11 (1905).

12. By the 1920s, several British medical researchers documented that smallpox was not only more common among the VACCINATED, but that the DEATH RATE from smallpox was actually higher among those who had been vaccinated. This indicates that the vaccine was ineffective and predisposed vaccinated persons to more lethal disease. ~Vaccination, Dr. Viera Scheibner, Australia, 1993, pp. 205-220.

13. Getting a vaccination does not guarantee immunity. ~CDC, January 28, 1994.

14. By 1987, scientific evidence indicated that the World Health Organization's 13-year global smallpox vaccination campaign may have awakened dormant HIV infection in many vaccinees. ~Times (in London) May 11, 1987.

15. Vaccines made from animal substrate contain animal viruses that are impossible to filter out. By 1961, scientists discovered that animal viruses in vaccines, including smallpox, could act as a carcinogen when given to mice in combination with cancer-causing chemicals, even in amounts too small to induce tumors alone. They concluded that vaccine viruses function as a catalyst for tumor production. ~Science, December 15, 1961.

16. Some of the new smallpox vaccine doses will be created with animal substrate. Because the vaccine will incorporate vaccinia, the cowpox virus, many wonder about possible mad-cow contamination. Fifty-five million doses of the new vaccine will be created using a cell line dating back to 1966 and cultured from the lung tissues of an aborted human fetus. ~World Net Daily, December 4, 2001.

17. The new smallpox vaccine will be genetically engineered. Many scientists believe that genetically engineered vaccines may be responsible for the global epidemic of auto-immune disease and neurological dysfunction. ~American College of Rheumatology, annual meeting, Nov. 8-12, 1998. Merck's genetically engineered hepatitis B vaccine, Recombivax HB, is a classic example. According to Dr. Bonnie Dunbar of Baylor College of Medicine, many thousands of reported adverse reactions to the hepatitis B vaccine include: chronic fatigue, neurological disorders, rheumatoid arthritis, lupus and MS-like disease. ~Testimony of Dr. Dunbar to Texas Dept. of Health, March 12, 1999. Over 15,000 French citizens sued the French government to stop mandatory hepatitis B injections for school children because of resulting auto-immune diseases. ~Science, July 31, 1998. Dr. John Classen has published voluminous data showing that the hepatitis B and other vaccines are closely linked to the development of insulin dependent diabetes. ~Infectious Diseases in Clinical Practice, October 22, 1997.

18. The British vaccine manufacturer Medeva has a horrendous record of contamination and blunders. In 2000, the FDA found that Medeva was making vaccines in conditions of filth, resulting in contaminated products. Medeva had been illegally using bovine medium to culture its polio vaccines, then lied about it. Medeva also used the blood of a Creutzfeldt-Jakob victim (mad cow) to manufacture 83,000 doses of polio vaccine used for (against?) Irish children. Nevertheless, the FDA allowed the USA to accept Medeva's flu vaccine (Fluvirin) for the year 2000. ~London Observer series: October 20-26, 2000.

19. In 2001, the British socialized health care system was reported to be in a state of collapse, with many hospitals and labs operating in abysmal filth. Five thousand people die each year from infections contracted in British hospitals; 10,000 become deathly ill from such infections. Sterilization procedures are barely adequate and said to be risking the spread of mad cow disease. Government ministers are reportedly trying to hush up the scandal. ~www.itn.co.uk/ Jan 06, 2001; The Sunday Times of London, November 12, 2001.

20. The U.S. government apparently intends to conduct NO double blind studies on the safety and efficacy of the new smallpox vaccine. It has ordered 286 million doses, one for every man, woman and child in America at a cost of $428 million. At least half of this vaccine will be delivered by Acambis PLC of great Britain.

Tip of the Week: Keep all vaccine needles away from your body! ___

Vaccination Liberation - Idaho Chapter Ingri Cassel, President P.O. Box 1444 Coeur d'Alene, ID 83816 (208) 255-2307 / 765-8421 vaclib@coldreams.com www.vaclib.org

176 posted on 01/09/2002 5:51:03 AM PST by a contender
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To: bonesmccoy
Would you turn a parent in to the federal government for refusing to give their child a maditory vaccine?
177 posted on 01/09/2002 5:54:37 AM PST by a contender
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To: bonesmccoy
I do not object to the vaccines, just the ages they are given. All my boys had theirs. But I waited until they were slightly older than was recommended. My youngest had some bad reactions to the DPT, and ended up just getting the DT. Most of these vaccines can be started at 1 year not 1 month.

There is NO reason to shoot a 2 month old with FOUR shots at one time. Their little immune systems can't handle that much unnessary vaccines at one time. Matthew was made very SICK by his doctor and NO one seems to care that the medical profession is causing harm to babies with their compulsive vaccine habits. Oh, they give you a sheet of paper with a phone number on it to contact if you feel your child has been seriously and irreparablly harmed by the FORCED vaccines. Some good that does to a damaged child.

178 posted on 01/09/2002 6:19:01 AM PST by GailA
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To: Rowdee
"I presume you say this has no relevancy to humans at this point because humans are not being studied, right?"

No. Not what I meant at all. Veterinary protocals are totally foreign to human medical protocols. Human vaccines are not re-administered annually throughout one's lifetimes as are veterinary vaccines. Until recently, no thought was given as to whether they are actually required at such frequent intervals or if, at some point, immunity builds to an adequate level, negating the need for annual vaccination. The rabies vaccination laws were written to protect humans, not animals. Long term effects of repeated annual injections of vaccines that might overstimulate and ultimately weaken an animal's immune system are only recently being looked at.

179 posted on 01/09/2002 6:34:01 AM PST by Harrison Bergeron
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To: krodriguesdc
My youngest son was ill quite often and even in 1974 I suspected his vaccinations. When he was in the second grade he began complaining of severe headaches and was diagnosed with double vision. The specialist said he thought my son had contacted meningitis or encephalitis as a baby. His headaches still come and go but there is nothing they can do aside from doping him up. My eleven year old nephew contacted rsv (or so they think) right after he got his first series of shots. He is now retarded, autistic and will never learn anything beyond an year old baby. I suspect the vaccinations but the government won't admit it. They said the few illnesses and deaths outweigh the good they do. I am afraid everytime my grandkids are due for their vaccinations. So far, so good, but maybe one of them will be like my son, but not so lucky, if you consider double vision and migraines as being fortunate.
180 posted on 01/09/2002 6:55:31 AM PST by Jaidyn
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