Hepatitis shots urged for newborns { DON'T}

AP ^ | January 7, 2002 | AP

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CHICAGO (AP)

[bonesmccoy]

The fever was caused by the newest of the vaccines. That's Prevnar. The vaccine was in short supply in our area and the fact is that the vaccine is the single most expensive vaccine on the market.

I have had no problems with the children in our practice who have received these vaccines without Prevnar. When the Prevnar was introduced, it created the fever side effect.

On the other hand, if no fever occurred, then it would show that your child was not responding to the vaccines. That is not good. The fact the fever exists shows that you will have lasting immunity to the germ.

[Pharmboy]

Uuuuuhhhhh, no.

[goodnesswins]

"Did you know the hospital gets $500 from the government for every social security number that they give out to their newborn child."

Can you point me to where this is proven - I ask because I do a newsletter that I'd like to include that little tidbit in..... but I need a documentable source.

[RLJVet]

Breast feed that new child and keep him or her off of antibiotics as long as possible for the reason you state. it is inconclusive but I have read such things about antibiotics. They can interfere with certain protein digestion, so the theory goes, and can cause such problems. I am leery of vaccines and handle them cautiously. Breastfeeding can reduce incedence of many illnesses due to incresed immune function . . . blah blah blah. Go to a la Leche league and find out all about this as well as for networking on other mothering issues -even before you deliver.
I hope you don't mind my advice.

[RLJVet]

Darn it-
. . . It, and incidence.

[Valpal1]

There were a number of babies in my upper-middle-class suburb infected with hepatitis by a daycare worker ten years ago. It's VERY politically incorrect to say that daycare puts your baby at risk.

"So your child can be put in daycare" is one of the main reasons they keep pushing more shots on younger and younger children. So younger and younger children can be placed in daycare and tought groupthink from the cradle.

[Coleus]

If you read how hepatitis B is contracted, you will see that it's from: Sex and I.V. drug use.

If one thinks their child will be engaging in such activites, one should not have children.

Immunizations have been linked to autism and AD(h)D, etc.

[bonesmccoy]

Excuse me, but there are NO kickbacks from any vaccine manufacturer to our organization. The insinuation is unfair and blatantly incorrect. Sorry to post this publicly.

[bonesmccoy]

Your information is also incorrect. There is no increased risk of liver cancer from Hepatitis B vaccination. The vaccination is a genetically engineered protein and has no contagious properties.

[bonesmccoy]

There is NO LINKAGE TO AUTISM. I'd like to kick the editors at NBC Dateline and CBS 60 Minutes for jointly condemning a solid vaccination program that has already saved many lives in our youngest generation.

For all those mothers who have any questions, please compare the rate of illness of HepB in Asia vs. America. You will find that your kids are safe from these diseases, but China is not.

Please immunize your children. Thanks.

[karebare]

Hepatitis A and flu vaccines are recommended for certain at-risk children.

Hep A is on the list here for all children.

I've tracked the vaccine makers. We do not make any in the USA.

[Shaftan]

It doesn't make a difference. It shouldn't be mandatory which it is for school in New Jersey. The fact is that 99 percent of Hep B cases are transmitted either through "unprotected" gay sex or sharing needles. The rest are immigrants from China and other places with AIDS epidemics.

My wife and I are are fighting this mandate in New Jersey and we will win and when we do, those of you who hold Merck or SKB stock will lose your shirts. Don't think we won't because there's a lot more of us than there are on the other side. It is just a matter of time and those of you who know me know enough than to bet on the other side.

And if someone can get Hep B through "casual contact" they can get AIDS the same way, since the transmission method is the same. If that's true, lets quarantine all the homosexuals and junkies rather than inject newborns, First Graders and Sixth Graders (law here in the Peoples Republic of New Jersey) against a Sexually Transmitted Disease known in the medical profession as "Junkie's Disease."

[karebare]

I've checked with Doctors ,Pharmacists ,Nurses,Traced companies.....So can You tell me where to get any hepA vaccine made in the U.S. ?Made With AMERICAN COWS ? I bet Not.

[Yaelle]

My first child has autism and I did have my 2nd child vaccinated but MUCH later than their crazy schedule. At least 4 shots at 2 months old, again at 4 months old, and again at 6 months old??? Into newborn immune systems??? I think it is insane! I deliberately brought my 2nd child later for each vaccine. You can also ask them to split up the doses of those killer triple disease vaccines. They don't like it, the baby doesn't like it (more shots), but less chance of overdoing it and making the baby sick.

I personally believe that the reason they shoot 'em all in at once and so early is because they feel that at the newborn stage the parents are less likely to "miss" the appointments (well baby checkups that are usually covered by insurance completely). They feel they've "got" the attention of the parents then, so shoot 'em all in while they can.

I also feel that if you keep your baby near home most of the time, and don't overexpose your baby to germs (no daycare), you can safely bring your baby late to his vaccinations. Breastfeeding does help the new immune system somewhat, too.

[all_mighty_dollar]

I did a google.com search using "hepatitis B" and found this site among many
Immunization Action Coalition, St Paul MN

It says:

How is HBV spread?

HBV is not just a sexually transmitted disease. It is a hardy virus that can exist on almost any surface for up to one month. HBV is found in the blood, semen, and vaginal secretions of infected people, and low concentrations can be found in saliva.

HBV can be spread by:

unprotected anal or vaginal sex
sharing needles used for drugs, body piercing, or tattooing contact with open sores
sharing toothbrushes, razors, nail clippers, or washcloths
living in a household with a person with ongoing HBV infection.
human bites

You do not get HBV from sneezing, coughing, or holding hands...

Looks to me like more of on effort to 'sell' drugs to generate revenue or to avoid profiling then to protect children. It claims Hep B is 'not just a sexually transmitted disease' yet the list ONLY covers that area and junkies or body piercing, things not associated with infant or even child activity.

Barbara Simpson of KSFO 560 AM in San Francisco has spent a lot of time on the subject several months ago and previous discussion seems to indicate more debate is needed.

[exDemMom]

The fact sheet they gave us said risk groups for Hep-B were injection drug users, homosexual men, sexually active heterosexuals, and infants/children of immigrants from disease-endemic areas.

They missed a group: researchers and/or lab clinicians; anyone who routinely handles human tissues or samples of human origin. Since I work with human cells, I've had the vaccine. No big deal.

For some very complicated, non-scaremongering, reasons, I do have certain concerns with vaccines, especially with the wisdom of giving vaccines for diseases like chickenpox, which I don't remember ever hearing is a major killer. But for diseases with severe health consequences, e.g. Hep. B (or A or C), and/or high mortality, the benefits of vaccination far outweigh the rare risk of side effects.

[Guenevere]

#78...I'll be glad to & direct you to his website.

He's convinced the multiple vaccines played a part in his son's autism.

I'm convinced newborns DO NOT NEED Hep B vaccine!

What's YOUR take on that?

[mommadooo3]

A while ago, I had heard that the process of decaffinating coffee left some serious health concerns....caused some kind of illness. Shortly afterward, there were two kinds of decaf sold...that old-fashioned decaf way, and the newer way.

Personally, if I'm drinking it, I don't want an 'imitation'. And there have been recent studies showing that coffee's NOT the horrible no-no they said it was. I guess folks just want to believe 'experts' too much. They should realize that living and breathing is a DEFINITE cause of cancer/death/illness/disease.

[Guenevere]

#98...Never mind. I just read your replies to Hep B vaccine for babies...........

I DISAGREE STRONGLY WITH YOU!!!!!!!

I can't even express how strongly my opinion is about this.............and you do NOT negate my opinion just because you're a doctor and I'm a parent.

For goodness sakes, these are OUR CHILDREN!

And I'm sick & tired of the government pushing unneccesary medical experimentation on them...........when the same government is TOO COWED to quarantine or try to stop unsafe sex that is rampant.....just because it's politically incorrect!

THIS IS WHAT I THINK!-----------I think SOME.....SOME, not ALL in the medical profession or the CDC or whatever, think it's easier ....less risk....to intimidate new parents who are all caught up emotionally at the time, and press their cause for ridiculous vaccines for babies like Hep B.

They would rather intimidate parents, than isolate or quarantine active (& they know who they are) sexually transmitting people......because it just wouldn't be politically correct, and they're afraid of the backlash from the well funded & loudly voiced 'gay society'............

And it really makes me steamed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And FWIW, I'm sorry I gave you that dear doctor's website..............he doesn't need more grief.
He lives with grief every day.!!!!!
Please leave him alone.