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Hepatitis shots urged for newborns { DON'T}
AP ^ | January 7, 2002 | AP

Posted on 01/07/2002 1:15:35 PM PST by expose

Edited on 07/12/2004 3:50:29 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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To: Guenevere
she said: I'm convinced newborns DO NOT NEED Hep B vaccine!

A: I do not give Hep B at delivery and neither do ANY of the physicians in our medical group. We choose to give the vaccines later (like at one month or two).

121 posted on 01/08/2002 8:30:15 AM PST by bonesmccoy
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To: IceCreamSocialist
said: The screening is better in some places than in others. My physician said if you're on a trip to Africa and get injured, immediately get on a jet to the USA and don't let anyone stick any needles into you for any reason because their blood supply is dangerous.

Yes, because they have HIV rampant in their population and the blood supply may be unreliable in screening the donations. HIV and HepB are transmitted in similar fashions. HIV has no vaccine. HepB does. Only an idiot turns down the vaccine!
122 posted on 01/08/2002 8:31:51 AM PST by bonesmccoy
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To: Guenevere
In response to post 100, you are terribly mistaken. Your assumptions are incorrect, and you are antagonistic to only individuals in our country who are looking out for your child's health.

You have no facts to back up your political opinion. On what basis do you make claims of "medical experimentation" on America's children? In no way are our vaccines "medical experimentation". The vaccines I use in my office are tested, proven, and safe. I have not had one incident of a reportable side effect to any of our vaccines.

While I respect your role as a parent, your characterization of doctors is grossly incorrect. I urge you to reconsider your opinion based on scientific facts.

123 posted on 01/08/2002 8:35:50 AM PST by bonesmccoy
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To: karebare
Please post your analysis. I will post cross-comparison analysis from our area. Thank you and I look forward to your presentation of your facts.
124 posted on 01/08/2002 8:36:56 AM PST by bonesmccoy
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To: AdamWeisshaupt
Dear accuser,

You lack medical training, yet you hurl insults regarding the use of children's vaccines with PROVEN efficacy and PROVEN positive effects in our population. The attempts by some dunderheads to prevent protection and defense of AMERICAN families are clear.

Failure to immunize against contagious disease is a public health risk for us all. If we were immunizing against smallpox, would we really give a hoot about what Bin Ladin or Hussein has in their bioweapon stockpile? No. If we immunized our population against anthrax, would we have given a darn about these terrorist attacks... I doubt it.

Yet, a few scattered people hurl these ridiculous charges and totally unsubstantiated rumors in order to discredit vaccines that have CLEARLY saved thousands of lives already.

You are no conservative. Conservatives defend family. Your position on vaccines clearly shows you are not interested in protecting ANY child, let alone your own.

125 posted on 01/08/2002 8:41:35 AM PST by bonesmccoy
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To: AdamWeisshaupt
Dear accuser,

You lack medical training, yet you hurl insults regarding the use of children's vaccines with PROVEN efficacy and PROVEN positive effects in our population. The attempts by some dunderheads to prevent protection and defense of AMERICAN families are clear.

Failure to immunize against contagious disease is a public health risk for us all. If we were immunizing against smallpox, would we really give a hoot about what Bin Ladin or Hussein has in their bioweapon stockpile? No. If we immunized our population against anthrax, would we have given a darn about these terrorist attacks... I doubt it.

Yet, a few scattered people hurl these ridiculous charges and totally unsubstantiated rumors in order to discredit vaccines that have CLEARLY saved thousands of lives already.

You are no conservative. Conservatives defend family. Your position on vaccines clearly shows you are not interested in protecting ANY child, let alone your own.

126 posted on 01/08/2002 8:41:51 AM PST by bonesmccoy
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To: IceCreamSocialist
Yes, my friends child has polio. She got it from the polio vaccine. In the last 10 years, many children have received polio from the live vaccine.
127 posted on 01/08/2002 8:53:32 AM PST by a contender
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To: freefly
reference bump
128 posted on 01/08/2002 10:05:37 AM PST by freefly
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To: afz400
"How many hospital workers have hepatitis B? Why are they allowed to work in a hospital environment with a contageous disease? "

Uhhhh... OK, if you don't want to think it through to the next logical step, I'll do it for you. It's because they come into contact every day with Hep B positive patients and become infected via their bodily fluids. EMTs are in the same risk category and, from reports in Philly newspapers, run a 3% to 5% infection rate. Would you suggest that we fire 5% of all EMTs, nurses, and doctors? If more at-risk people - including infants - took the vaccine, the infection rate among medical personnel would probably drop.

129 posted on 01/08/2002 10:19:24 AM PST by Harrison Bergeron
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To: Marie, expose
expose wrote: "When a baby is taken of of formula and begins to eat regular food, it cannot diges it because of the hepitis shot."

Hogwash. There's as much of a relationship between Hep B vaccine and food intolerance as there is between black cats and bad luck.

Marie, and all FReepers on this thread with kids, I really would encourage you to speak with your pediatrician for information on food allergies and intolerances. The doctor, despite the paranoid misinformation on this thread, studied medicine for ten years and has dedicated his life to the health and well being of children. He advises you to vaccinate your kids for the same reason he encourages you to use a child safety seat in your car or put childproof locks on your bathroom cabinets - so your kids won't die horribly when it could have been avoided.

The advice you get from whacko anti-vaccination fanatics on the internet is worth every cent you pay for it. Would you risk your baby's life on what "soebody on the internet" told you?

130 posted on 01/08/2002 10:43:14 AM PST by Harrison Bergeron
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To: sc01
I do not believe there is a Hep-B on the market today that is administered by three shots in one day. To my knowledge there never was. Adults get their shots on day one, day thirty and day one hundred and eighty. The infant dose is either one shot or a few shots over a period of time.
131 posted on 01/08/2002 11:12:56 AM PST by DoughtyOne
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To: Harrison Bergeron, bonesmccoy
why not force everyone to be immunized against hep-b then? how many babies do you know that use i.v. drugs or have promiscious sex, or perhaps you know babies that donate blood? you don't have one shred of proof that vaccinating infants is safe, nor do you have any regard for children who would have lead normal healthy lives were it not for experimental, unproven vaccine trials. parents do not need medical training to realize vaccinating infants for this lifestyle disease is absurd and criminal.
132 posted on 01/08/2002 11:14:50 AM PST by sc01
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To: DoughtyOne
i watched my son administered THREE shots through the nursery window.. all that was listed on his shot card was hep-b. so what's your point?
133 posted on 01/08/2002 11:19:00 AM PST by sc01
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To: arkfreepdom
"Not to mention that these people who don't vaccinate their children only get away with it because enough others do to keep herd immunity high."

Since there are occasionally adverse reactions, the optimimum vaccination rate is less than 100%. In a free society, the actual vaccination rate would approach the point of zero marginal utility from further vaccination.

134 posted on 01/08/2002 11:21:37 AM PST by Tauzero
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To: bonesmccoy
I'm sorry, Bones. I wasn't clear. I'm not arguing for or agains vaccines. My problem is that my daughter contracted an illness that I was told she couldn't get if she was properly vaccinated. I would like to know how this is possible.

People are concerned about the dangers of vaccinating, I'm concerned that vaccinations don't work as well as we're told they do. Honestly, I'm not anti-vaccination, but I do believe that parents are usually the best judge of what is or is not in their child's best interest. I will still get my kids the MMR and the DPP, but I'm not as confident that they really work that well. When I asked the doctors (as I was asking you) WHY it didn't work I was looking for something to make me feel better about the other shots my kids had. Are they REALLY safe from polio? Mumps? All I want is for some scientist to give me a scientific reason why my daughter got measles after all that. How can I stand up and promote something that failed my family when I can't get an answer as to how it failed us?

135 posted on 01/08/2002 11:23:20 AM PST by Marie
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To: TomB
"You are essentially saying that just about every pediatrician and family practice physician in this country (for starters) is involved in a conspiracy to harm children by giving them unnecessary vaccinations just to make money."

No conspiracy is necessary.

If you subsidize something, you will get more of it.

And the members of the medical profession are no more immune to orthodoxy than others.

136 posted on 01/08/2002 11:28:34 AM PST by Tauzero
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To: sc01
"...absurd and criminal..."

What's absurd and criminal is uneducated paranoids with weird political agendas giving out medical advice.

Every pediatrician I've ever asked has his own kids vaccinated - across the spectrum. You say that they are performing evil and insidious scientific experiments on their own babies for the benefit of the government and the drug conglomerates. I say they are conscienciously caring for their children's health, as do my wife and I.

137 posted on 01/08/2002 11:30:22 AM PST by Harrison Bergeron
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To: bonesmccoy
I have not had one incident of a reportable side effect to any of our vaccines

Could you please tell me what would be the procedure if a parent needed to report a side effect? I have heard many parents complain of side effects to vaccination, even voicing them to physicians in my presence. No formal procedure to provide quality assurance feedback to these pharmaceutical conglomerates has ever been offered to these parents that I know of.

138 posted on 01/08/2002 11:33:06 AM PST by rubbertramp
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To: Harrison Bergeron
The advice you get from whacko anti-vaccination fanatics on the internet is worth every cent you pay for it. Would you risk your baby's life on what "soebody on the internet" told you?

Thank you for your sincere concern. (and I'm not being sarcastic when I say that) The reason I asked was because my son has an unexplainable problem with malabsorbtion syndrome. He developed it at about 10 months and by 14 months he had lost 1/3 of his body weight and had stopped all linear growth. Things have improved, but after a colon biopsy, allergy tests and uncountable blood work he still has problems after 8 years. Right now I'm working on the gluten/lactose intolerance theory and a pure meat/veg/rice diet help a LOT. My daughter didn't receive the HepB, he did. I doubt that that is the problem, but as a mom it's my job to look at all the possibilities.

139 posted on 01/08/2002 11:34:51 AM PST by Marie
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To: bonesmccoy
"Your family's failure to immunize your child causes the entire community to be at heightened risk of disease."

How, pray tell, can an unvaccinated child be a risk to the vaccinated?

140 posted on 01/08/2002 11:38:16 AM PST by Tauzero
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